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Miles Archer

(23,714 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 08:33 AM Saturday

Rapin' Grampy's "BIG CROWD" for his TPUSA appearance in Phoenix? About 3000 people in a 4500 seat church. BIG!

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rally-flop/

The president who once filled sports venues across the country couldn't even come close to filling a 4,500-seat Arizona church on Friday night, exposing the dramatic erosion of his political momentum.

According to the Washington Post, Trump was the featured speaker at a Turning Point USA rally in Phoenix at Dream City Church. Despite his boast earlier in the day on Truth Social about addressing a "BIG CROWD," the turnout was sparse and underwhelming.

The attendance numbers tell the story. A Turning Point USA spokeperson claimed only about 3,000 people attended — meaning the church was roughly two-thirds full at best. For a president who once commanded arena-sized audiences, the half-empty megachurch represents a stunning reversal.

The demographic breakdown was equally telling, reports the Post. The megachurch was supposed to be a venue for Trump to drum up support among young voters. Instead, he found an audience whose members skewed older and were focused on divisions within their own party.
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Rapin' Grampy's "BIG CROWD" for his TPUSA appearance in Phoenix? About 3000 people in a 4500 seat church. BIG! (Original Post) Miles Archer Saturday OP
What other President in memory has ever failed to draw huge crowds? What church has ever invited ... marble falls Saturday #1
Most of those "arena" size crowds were paid to be there. mwmisses4289 Saturday #2
"Audience...skewed older". Maybe desperate folks hoping Jesus-Trump would heal them. Midnight Writer Saturday #3
Bet you they downsized from an even bigger venue in applegrove Saturday #4

marble falls

(72,131 posts)
1. What other President in memory has ever failed to draw huge crowds? What church has ever invited ...
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 08:53 AM
Saturday

... a known convicted and unrepentant criminal who's advocated murder before?

He's feeling the pinch. He's brought a vaxx advocate back into the CDC, he's allowing foreign workers back into the US. He's trying to move towards the center enough to stop critics.

mwmisses4289

(4,424 posts)
2. Most of those "arena" size crowds were paid to be there.
Sat Apr 18, 2026, 09:30 AM
Saturday

Other "crowds" were due to deceptive camera work, i.e., tight focus on areas where people were, not on the empty seats behind them; never pulling back to show the whole arena or venue.
Just like everything about him...fake, scripted, and unreal.

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