Another thing he has no clue about.

He seems to be be either explaining or complaining but never offering ideas about how to change things. I'd be a little more interested if he sounded a little more like AOC who comes to her constituents with ideas and solutions when they tell her what they want. He's not asking us what we want or need from him, he's telling us what he thinks and not much else. He sounds like a cross between sheehy of Montana and fetterman.

He gets the ((((GONG)))) from me.
Reason: Vertical learning curve, not helpful.

Are you saying that you disagree with that? If not, this is more nit picking.

That seems pretty obvious.

If I recall Democrats in the House voted to impeach Trump twice, and Senate Democrats voted overwhelmingly to remove him. I believe Platner's being disingenuous.

Be specific.

opinion.

Dems are Winning and Overperforming All oveer the Country and Flipping red Seats to Blue.

Even in Red States.

Our Dems are Fighitng for us.. Planter is dead wrong.

In case you haven't been listening.

I posted this to MorbidButterflyTat in this thread...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21183728

It's So Riciculous that Planter is running on an Anti Dem message... Way to build a Coalition.

"..in case you haven't been listening.." ?

This guy sounds unrealistic. A sparkly pony. He's gonna do all these things but no realistic approach to how he would get the votes from Republicans.

after having so many disappoint.

She's well known, well respected, and gave Trump the middle finger. Do you remember "I'll see you in court?"

nobody really knows him. I've watched all of his interviews that I could find on YouTube, but I still don't feel secure.

Having said that, I really don't think the 80-year-old governor that takes AIPAC money is who we're looking for, either.

I'm ready for a younger congress/senate, and especially a more progressive leadership structure in our party.

I would like to see specific questions asked that are about the votes taking place in Congress NOW. How would he vote on the votes like Fetterman? These questions need to be asked and answered publicly.

Democrats suck but not me. It strikes me as the wrong approach as well, rad.

I have seen part of his platform on his profile page at BSky. He doesn't say how he will help get us out of the mess that tsf and his maggot crew has gotten us in.

However, he said:

-He wants Medicare for all. ( not a bad thing but how is he going to do this...he does not explain.)

-Fire the SCOTUS and require term limits. ( great, though that isn't going to happen either, at least not in my lifetime)

Understand That Dems need to Take BAck the House and the Senate.

Does Planter think he can do all the things he says he wants alone?

Well, he can't.

Thanks, she.

decent people on there? As for term limits? Does he mean for scotus, or everyone? If scotus, does he actually think a constitutional amendment will pass?

And then there are his disgusting comments about sexual assault victims. I would really love to know who the guy behind the curtain is.

No respect for women raped or gays assaulted sexually.

I don't like him and I sure as hell don't trust him. When you have to apologize every day for something new that has come to light about their past comments and actions then...I will take a pass.

This is a disaster waiting to happen.

I got that text months ago and it was a major red flag. There's been enough revealed about him since that I totally forgot that text was the first thing that turned me off about him - until now.

stuck between a rock and a hard place. The Platner appeal to some stems from his brutal “honesty.” He’s sharpened his approach but he still makes a thoughtful person squirm. His comments about women, the skull and bones tat, etc., and it gnaws on some that he’s from a monied family. On the other side we’ve got Governor Mills; capable but old.

I can’t call this one, I am too cantankerous, lol. Primaries coming soon.

And of course right after posting this a found Hassan speaking with Platner. https://youtube.com/shorts/b13JCO_eeIk?si=AtschzOKQV3X_qpv

Platner will be the Democratic nominee, and his haters must face that reality.

His past history has come into light as the news drips out. Every day he seems to have to come out and apologize for his past comments about women and rape, gay men and rape that he found hilarious. Read his Reddit posts, they are revolting. How could anyone forgive that?

I don't and we are making a huge mistake if he does win the nomination.

You and I know that Collins is primed and ready to let loose on him. If he gets the nomination I do believe we will lose.

His schtick does not inspire confidence but he is winning, which makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable.

He will destroy Susan Collins - I have no doubt about that.

When Republican money and op research is done with him, he wont' be able to get elected to anything. Way too much baggage to exploit.

Want to bet, though?

Earlier this year, I frequently posted that Maine could surely do better than Mills or Platner.

No other candidates came forward, and after several months of capacity-filled town halls where Maine voters could ask Platner unscripted question, he is polling far ahead of Mills despite her ads about his past Reddit comments. Surely, almost all Maine voters are now aware of these comments.

So, I am not suggesting that anyone forgive him, but rather to face the reality that he almost certainly will be the next Dem nominee for senate.

It’s becoming pretty clear that, despite past personal errors and missteps, populist candidates are defeating centrist candidates handily.

Now imagine what a populist Dem candidate without Platner’s personal history could do on the national stage- we have already seen a local example with Mamdani.

calling those with different Opinions "haters"; it's only to Distract and Dismiss the Reasons the opposition doesn't agree with them.

TY, she, for calling that out.

That's nice.

Trying to out do Fetterman perhaps? Or maybe you agree with him? Hmmmm?

https://emilyslist.org/sound-the-alarm/sound-the-alarm-graham-platner-says-sexual-assault-victims-should-take-some-responsibility-in-now-deleted-reddit-posts/

I will leave it to Maine voters to decide.

Your words.

And he has much more baggage. Nazi symbols? Really? Seen his take on sexual assaulting women? When it's all said and done, Mills will win. And win handily. Because I doubt below is the end of opposition research. And where's there's some of this, there's bound to be a lot more. But hey! If you want to vote for someone who thinks "she's partially responsible" , well, you be you.

https://emilyslist.org/sound-the-alarm/sound-the-alarm-graham-platner-says-sexual-assault-victims-should-take-some-responsibility-in-now-deleted-reddit-posts/

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5801420-maine-governor-mills-ad-sexual-assault/

floor' with Platner in the Dem primary will come true at all.

I always strive to not allow personal wish projections to come into play when making prediction calculations.

We can both revisit this as time marches onward.

I guess Dems are generally cool with sexual assault apologists and random racist statements. And what else might be out there? This may be just the tip. But I'm sure the polls are "locked" at this point. OK.

https://emilyslist.org/sound-the-alarm/sound-the-alarm-graham-platner-says-sexual-assault-victims-should-take-some-responsibility-in-now-deleted-reddit-posts/

If I lived in Maine, I honestly don't know who I'd vote for in the primary. Mills is great, but she'd be taking office at the age of 79 and finishing the term at 85. Ar that point, I assume Maine Dems would then have to start all over again with a new candidate, because a second term would take her into her 90s. But the more I hear about Platner, the more problematic he sounds. What a conundrum. 🤔

(I don't live in Maine so don't know)

that if she doesn't make it through her term, there will be an opportunity to replace her with another Democrat (but not a guy with a Nazi tattoo and past history of dismissing perp responsibility for assault).

If there is a strong risk that she would be replaced with someone even worse than Collins, who couldn't be ousted at the next regular-cycle GE ... then hmmmm

What bothers me about Maine is why the fuck they came to this dilemma in the first place.

But I don't live there so I will let those who do speak.

Yup, "honesty" where he talks about the Senate and Congress made up of 'elites'. And Graham is just a regular working class, average, hardworking everyday Joe. Strange considering he attended private school (college prep school cost 12.5K a year) comes from a very wealthy family. He is not your average 'working man'.

"elite" talk from? It sounds so Buzz Wordy familiar.

Especially when he himself came from "priviege"

plays so much better than I am a rich kid.

portray yourself as working class when everything is handed to you.

So they pretend, go around calling themselves New Deal/FDR Democrats. All righty then, FDR was a working class democratic socialist and presidents Carter, Clinton, Obama, and Biden were all swanky rich powerful upper class elite establishment neoliberal-monsters.

Seems to me all Republicans have to do is pound him with how Medicare for All will raise taxes, abolish private insurance, government takeover and so on.

has gotten way out of hand. And, I so appreciate those who are standing up for the actual Reality of what Planter's roots are.

Why not be proud of where he came from...?Being from Wealth didn't scare off voters from FDR and JFK

What he said about blacks, gays etc was honest ?

I understand that is why people like him there and Maine is a largely white state without many non whites and Jews so thai helps .

But I guess it's a difference of views.

If he sticks to the narrative that Dems in Federal office currently aren't doing enough. To me that says he wants them to and plans to himself, fight harder.....I'm cool with it. I feel the same way honestly.

Just curious, are any of us on here pleased with the current level of effort from our federal democrat elected officials?

For me I'd say some of them, yes.....many of them, no.

Beware of false prophets. He has shown you who he is. There is something about him that I can put my finger on and oh it’s Democrats.

I don't follow your reply, sorry.

I will say that I am very suspicious of Platner and others like Sweyer in California. I'd hate to see another Sinema or Fetterman.

It was just that the message from the text that was in the post doesn't bother me too much.

You’re right, Tats. We’re not idiots.

-- this idiot, and,
-- a 79-yr-old ex-governor?

NO wonder Collins was re-elected time and again.

A whole lot of people underestimate how Trump being hated by most of the political class is a selling point. Market yourself as anti-establishment. No reason to kiss up to Democratic leadership when they poll so unfavorability. Maine Democrats can decide who they want.

I don’t think he’s going to suddenly bolt for the Republican Party.

impeachment is done in the House, and there's no way in hell they could get 67 guilty votes in the senate so that's a pie-in-the-sky promise at best.

Impeachment starts in the house, but, as you know, it ends up in the senate.

My point is, he’s not going to flip and become a republican.

that you can say anything if it isn't even possible in the long run.

Thankfully, the numbers of Dems calling for accountability for all the corrupt officials in all the branches of government is steadily growing.

If we only advocate for that which is possible there can never be any change.

People called for Abolition long before it was possible.

to Take a Majority of Dems in the House and the Senate.. and he's Texing around the Country that Dems aren't fighting for us.

Which is comlete Bull Shitt.

Not only that but Democrats are Winning All over the country. Flipping red Seats Blue, and Overerperforming.

He holds regular town halls that attract capacity crowds, and accepts unscripted questions from the audience.

If the concerns raised in these Platner-bashing threads are shared by Maine voters, I would hope they would use these frequent forums to get their concerns addressed.

Medicare for all, impeaching SC justices, require term limits.... promises, promises.

How about unicorns, I think I'd like one.

It Also requires all the Dems in House and Senate who are there now and those running in November.

We need the Majority not just some candidate that says they're not "fighting for us" when they are.

So right.. "Talk is Cheap"..

This is real..

'A trend that can't be ignored': Dems have made up ground in nearly every election since Trump took office

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21183667

So what? The majority of Democrats need to and must be called out for their actions. Or lack there of.

Not helping magas?

Dems need to Win the House and the Senate Back to Get anything Done.

And, if Dems think Dems aren't Fighting For us in Congress, why are Dems Winning now All Over the Country.. Flipping red Seats to Blue.. and Overperforming in red states and Districts.

How about the lack of action from the party actually IN power? His phony "woking man" schtick?

that they are not doing and CAN do?

Welcome to DU, btw.

Thanks, niyad.

So.

So, in fact you are giving us permission to call out Platner for his past racist, sexist and homophobic posts!

Good to know, Waywardpedestrian!

Thank you for giving us 'permission' to call out all the wrongs of a Platner run!!!'

Hot dayum!

Oh, BTW....welcome to DU.

Point that OUT!

How do you have a Nazi tattoo and say bigoted things about people and that should be excused but democrsts that are in minority because people like him voted for Collins are the problem ?

Clever evil elites trying to pull the sheep over our eyes BUT THEY CANNOT!!!!!1

Um, the opposition party is the Republicans.

Maaho for letting him know who the opposition is... he seems to have forgotten along the way.

Pete Stark was the incumbent Democrat. He was honest with his constituents about his religious beliefs. He was an atheist.

Swalwell primaried him and he and his supporters hammered Stark on his vote against the Republican bill to put In God we Trust on our currency.

So the progressive won by attacking the separation of church and state .

With many of the progressive supporters of Platner the hammer against the primary opponent is age.

I want reliable Democratic senators and representatives to build our country on democratic principles. The races I am focusing are in states other than Maine.

For reasons why, try other sources than this board.

saying similar things (in multiple ways and with multiple types of vibes, of course, and some far less stridently/confrontationally, of course) for ages about the endless fundraising texts).

on Monday, April 6th. Apparently it's the same old same old with him. I was paying zero attention to him and the races in Maine until I got it. I was just offended by the attitude toward Dems. It's a pet peeve of mine that so many people seem to blame Democrats for this crap than the Republicans who are responsible. I don't live there, and I have no intention of funding him.

I like Mills, although she is too ideologically centrist and pragmatic for me. She has been a very effective and creative Governor. She was terrific during the pandemic. She is honest to the core. She works hard.

But I don’t think she can beat Collins. The Rs and Independents won’t vote for Mills. Some will vote for Platner.

Some of Dems who are going for Platner are making a calculation that he can beat Collins, and some are desperate for a hero narrative they can attach their fantasies to and just want to believe in the guy who rode in out of nowhere. They find him charismatic.

It’s a bad situation, but I will vote for Mills in the primary and expect to have to vote for Platner in the general.

And that if he's elected, he'll end up being like Fetterman or Sinema.

is dissing democrats.

Wow

I said nothing of the kind.

Vet your candidates well.

when he is in the inevitable (problematic) nominee, I wonder what people will post about all day

We're Dems.

From anyone after November’24

It starts “Pedo just did this OUTRAGEOUS thing!!! Donate now to stop him!”

Now I’m getting crap for TT in Wisconsin.

I’m sick of the fundraising when I need to see action. I’ll donate to local folks trying to clean up WI but other than that, I’m done.

I live in Florida but get most fundraising texts from other states. And it's annoying that if I do donate to someone, they just pile on, asking for more and more.

Thinking I'm someone named "Jerry" begging me for money all the time over the years... but never had someone running as a Dem, who is unfairly Bashing Dems begging me for money.

Thank You So Much for letting us know about what Planter is doing, rad.

Makes you wonder how they got you on their list, doesn't it?

Texts? Because I've told them to stop bothering me... I won't be giving any money to you.

How about Rep. Jared Golden — who isn’t running for reelection and therefore faces no consequences for his decision — voting against the Iran war powers resolution? We’re simultaneously being told that Trump is the greatest extant threat to democracy, yet even putting stumbling blocks in his way seems to be too much to ask.

Having limited power isn’t the same as having no power.