This must be what the temper tantrum was about.

I wonder how the general stopped Trump from accessing the codes?

If that is true, it is a big story.

There's also a link down-thread debunking this ridiculous story.

The US military disobeyed a direct order from the Commander in Chief.

This was organized and not just one general who decided to do it.

One general does not make this decision unless it has been discussed and agreed upon in advance by the top generals. US military operate in packs and groups. They rarely go rogue.

They kept him out of the sitcom?

I’m not saying Trump eventually push the button. Most likely scenario, I think, would be drop it where the uranium is buried.

On my part seems off so I take your point. I wonder how many times he's tried to do this, though... his being prone to temper tantrums and all.

but I think it's the most likely ending to it.

The Cuban missile crisis, in Key West. This feels kind of like that.

Although the idea of a National sitcom is pretty amusing, only if I laugh not to cry!

I thought about it and decided not to sound like I knew much. I could see something like that happening where the adults in the 'room' have to remove him because he's out of line. Never can tell these days.

There was a very dicy dangerous situation for some US Air Force pilots.
Top brass needed their wits about them to make good decisions.

Then they have a mentally ill POTUS screaming about dropping nukes when they are
trying to save two pilots. I also think Trump got physical, it was more than just a temper
tantrum.

THEY HAD HIM REMOVED FROM THE ROOM.

Please note that this had to be done in coordination with the secret service.

There's been many movies that have been made, regarding what's left after World Destruction.
Quite frankly, I don't want to be a part of it.

Nikita Khrushchev (If I remember correctly)

It’s terrifying that if this information is credible; that it’s gone all the way to demanding the nuclear launch codes…

It’s incredibly reassuring that someone is left that told him NO!

Nobody has the legal authority to deny order re. nukes.

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obligation, and legal, to question any order to launch nuclear weapons, just like any other order. The requirement in the UCMJ to disobey an unlawful order is that legal authority. How that plays out if this sort of thing -- if true, it is terrifying, I literally got a chill -- happens again, involving different people, it is hard to say.

by any means necessary

It cannot be a purely unilateral decision. It's a group decision.

I don't have a problem with that. Thank goodness someone with sense is in control.

... I'll get the one star, two star, three star, and four star generals to head for the exit doors. Then where will the trump presidency be ? Is Kegsbreath and his squadron of idiot sycophant going to run the show for you ?

He doesn't strike one as a trustworthy source (ie he said Russia didn't interfere in Trumps first election)

How did/does this retired CIA analyst know this? Was he there? What emergency meeting, any reports of that even happening?

ETA: number of Recs to title, that's kind of my thing

n/t

Oh, dear.

Wait, no I’m not.

And the sooner, the better!!!

It's part of the top officers' jobs.

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Once it’s confirmed every Republican in Congress needs to be interviewed and asked, “How about now?”

Did Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, storm out of an emergency meeting after President Donald Trump said he wanted to threaten Iran with nuclear weapons? No, that's not true: There are no credible or verified reports indicating that such an incident ever occurred. While news coverage has documented internal discussions and differing views within the administration over potential military action against Iran, none describe Caine storming out of a meeting or reacting in that manner to a request from the president.

The claim appeared in a post (archived here) by the @JaokooMoses account on X on April 19, 2026. It read:

CONFIRMED: The US joint Chiefs of staff Air Force Gen. Dan Caine stormed out of an emergency meeting with Trump. Insiders indicate that Trump wanted to invoke the nuclear codes as a deterrence against Iran but Caine refused and invoked the U.S. Uniform Code of Military Justice.

This is what the post looked like on X at the time of writing:

more at linky dink....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-caine-did-not-225644148.html

Again, the president has sole authority to use a nuke. Military personal can only either resign, sit in the brig or guide him away from dropping it too close to a school or something. That's it.

Bottom line:If Trump decides he really wants to do it, there's nothing to stop him.

I care whether Trump wanted to nuke Iran.

storm out of the meeting,not did Caine stop trump from trying to use the nuclear codes. Kinda weasely.

All I could find is something saying it's false.

He ran a blog in the early 2000's called No Quarter. He lost his mind when Obama won the Democratic presidential nomination.

fact-checking as trolling.

Larry Johnson is not a very credible source nor has this story been independently verified by other news outlets. However, it does sound like something Trump would actually do given his declining state of mind. I wonder if anyone has the courage to stop him before he does such a thing. That person must be aware that he or she would be remembered in history as the one who saved the world from doomsday. Ever since Trump got elected, I said to myself, he's gonna' kill us all. And he seems to be getting closer to that point every day.

But I guess he could get someone to read the code on the biscuit to him.

Without that, it's nothing.

That the whole civilization would die in Iran. There is only one way that could happen. I believe he would try as insane as he is now.

He was just PRETENDING to be completely unhinged as a negotiating tactic!

His fuck up with his unneeded war on the people of Iran, Bibi’s side show of trying to make Southern
Lebanon part of Israel, the poll #s, his declining health, and the Epstein files must make him feel like his world is declining around him so he sees using nuclear weapons as an out because he is bat shit crazy.

Thanks to The Dangerous Ones.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ORaAQjhyZyk?si=Nzdj7FblPX_OzI9Y

He can't launch the nukes alone, even though he thinks he can. Thank you General Dan Caine! There will be books and movies about this craziness very soon, I'm sure!

Trump doesn't need to ask Caine or anyone else for the codes. A military attache is always with him and this person has possession of the "football", which contains all the required info. All he has to do is present his authentication, select his target(s), and give the order. The attache has no power to deny him access as long as he presents the correct credentials.

While plausible in the sense that Trump is dumb and/or crazy enough to seriously consider using nukes unprovoked, it strikes me as odd that this retired CIA analyst doesn't know the control procedures and thinks Trump has to ask the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to give them to him.

Sounds like the only one to stand in his way is potentially Secretary of Defense (Kegsbreath). There may have been some issue, but by saying 'he wanted the codes" makes the whole story sound fishy (unknowledgeable). There are no codes he needs to be given by anyone.

Quick search says:

The President has the authorization codes, known as "the biscuit," on their person at all times, rather than asking for them. As the sole authority for nuclear use, the President can order a strike without advisor consultation, but they do not physically press a button; they identify themselves via the codes to the Pentagon.

Key Aspects of the Nuclear Command System:
The Biscuit & Football: The president carries a plastic card the "biscuit", with codes to identify themselves, which are used in conjunction with the "nuclear football," a briefcase carried by a military aide containing launch options.

Sole Authority: The President holds the exclusive power to authorize a nuclear strike. There is no legal requirement to consult with the Vice President, Congress, or military advisors, though the Secretary of Defense must confirm the order.
The Chain of Command: While the President authorizes the strike, the order is transmitted through the military chain of command, where officials must ensure the order is lawful, though they cannot legally prevent an authorized strike.
No "Button": The system is designed to verify the identity of the Commander-in-Chief rather than operate via a simple button press.

While some users on Reddit and Quora speculate that the president only holds part of the code or requires a second code from the Secretary of Defense, official information highlights the president's sole authority and possession of the authentication "biscuit".

why?

wanting the codes and SOMEONE at least, having the integrity, wisdom, morality, and COMMON SENSE to tell him no, far more comforting

than I do the notion that absolutely NO one could or would stop him if he did.

If it's the latter then the world is fukd.

... and bullshit like the claim that British intelligence spied on Trump for Obama.

Also reportedly a frequent guest on platforms like Russia Today and InfoWars.

I'm not sure how this particular bit of mis/ dis-information fits with previous bullshit.

We've gotta watch out for this shit. Some is quite insidious counter-resistance propaganda designed to appeal to -- and be spread by -- the likes of us. The aim is often to raise a hope of some sort that is dashed when debunked, leaving us more hopeless, or to provide something right-wingnuts can point to and say "what idiots to believe X."

critical thinking- dead and buried.

Normally I'd say Mutually Assured Destruction still holds as a policy or should. Nuclear winter is bad for business, global capitalism and billionaires with their fangs in everything globally such as it is. At this point, I'm not so sure about that stance, whether this latest claim is obvious bullshit or not. This latest Trump administration is not the last and is filled with malignant narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths with no guardrails. The "limited nuclear war is winnable crowd" have their fangs deeply embedded in this administration. Along with a new generation of young social media influencers and young people who think nuclear war is a video game in which "one side wins." Critical thinking considers the ramifications of such a mindset...

Not for the story that was debunked?

A POTUS carries it with them at all times. We want to believe life is like the movies but it's not. If he chooses pre-approve strike package that oder has to be followed or face court martial. And yes, I think he'll eventually nuke the uranium site.

Just because we don't like Trump that doesn't mean everything bad about him is absolute truth. He sucks from what we factually know without the need for unfounded rumors from a clown like Larry Johnson.

until I see proof to the contrary, he asked for them.

Anyone who believed it has no understanding of how that stuff works.

With a president who, because of personal physical challenges, needs to make several changes of clothing throughout the day, an aide may be in possession of the biscuit during certain intervals.

they didn't want the fuckwit getting any information that he would bullhorn to the entire planet that would put the troops in peril.

The record is full of examples where he has asked the military to do his illegal and immoral bidding, from shooting protesters in DC to bombing Iran for Israel.

What matters is that We the People, like the Constitution says, return to giving the Pentagon its orders.

And he should also have his TV and his social media accounts taken away from him.