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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/21/world/iran-us-war-trump-news

https://people.com/trump-would-have-won-vietnam-war-very-quickly-as-president-11954706

https://www.thedailybeast.com/draft-dodging-trump-79-brags-about-how-he-would-have-won-vietnam-war-in-unhinged-rant/

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-war-vietnam-cnbc-b2961875.html
surfered
(13,814 posts)BootinUp
(51,488 posts)hvn_nbr_2
(6,806 posts)Mtnmama
(162 posts)Madman
electric_blue68
(27,010 posts)I beg The Universe for the gazillionth time.
:whimper:
oasis
(53,791 posts)Doodley
(11,992 posts)Redleg
(6,981 posts)Trump hasn't shown he can handle the current conflict with Iran, much less anything else.
BootinUp
(51,488 posts)Before Einstein
Intractable
(2,295 posts)Pinback
(13,616 posts)Martin Eden
(15,736 posts)As part of his vendetta against science.
BootinUp
(51,488 posts)Martin Eden
(15,736 posts)I don't think it means what you think it means.
BootinUp
(51,488 posts)inconceivable to entertain!
as usual. He was such a chicken sh.. his daddy got him out of going into the military. I wonder if he would have been thrown out of the military even if he had been drafted.
lastlib
(28,409 posts)erronis
(24,131 posts)lastlib
(28,409 posts)even if not in a combat zone--"training exercise accident".......)
bucolic_frolic
(55,454 posts)Yeah? Well I'm the Queen of England!
Baitball Blogger
(52,519 posts)Conjuay
(3,086 posts)If you had showed up, Bonespurs.
Ocelot II
(130,860 posts)CTyankee
(68,302 posts)MineralMan
(151,430 posts)during the Vietnam War. He wouldn't have done shit. He did manage to avoid military service at that time, though. Clever, isn't he.
I didn't want to go to Vietnam either. I'm one year older than Drumph. So, I enlisted in the USAF and did something else while serving. I didn't avoid military service like Trump did, though. Nope.
Trump was a true draft-dodger, pure and simple.
Emile
(42,675 posts)that SOB in the face if he were anywhere near me.
purr-rat beauty
(1,306 posts)I'll follow your punch with a drop kick
Aristus
(72,321 posts)Moostache
(11,232 posts)If he were ever within my grasp, I would rip his throat out and beat him with it. I hold him personally responsible for the botched response to COVID-19 that forced my mother to die in a hospital without family at her side, a wound that was re-opened this year when my father passed and I WAS able to be with him to the end. Trump stole something sacred and holy from me and my family and on top of everything else he has done, said and stolen I think being beaten to death with his own throat is getting off easy anyway.
BidenRocks
(3,385 posts)I'm gonna rip your head off and shit down your neck! Oorah!
Marines aren't subtle!
Enlisted 2/73. Fuck chump!
electric_blue68
(27,010 posts)And now re-exasperated!
My condolences on your father's passing.
aggiesal
(10,850 posts)Skittles
(172,200 posts)that fucking coward seriously needs to STFU
Mysterian
(6,570 posts)People chose this degenerate to lead their country. Mind boggling.
spanone
(141,854 posts)Fucking idiot
Solly Mack
(97,067 posts)Danmel
(5,794 posts)Shot by his own troops.
eppur_se_muova
(42,153 posts)malaise
(296,946 posts)INSANITY?
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,105 posts)usonian
(25,924 posts)
Real, not AI.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,861 posts)I take it there was no follow up.
Grim Chieftain
(1,886 posts)Delusions of grandeur, massive ego, out of touch with reality. Someone drop a net over him and drag him out of the White House. Every day it's a new OMGWTH moment.
Please, please make this idiot go away.
electric_blue68
(27,010 posts)...in my big, blue NYC that there's no cheering, car honking etc, going on....
I am soooo disappointed yet again!
AllaN01Bear
(29,697 posts)dunkoff.
kentuck
(115,473 posts)...but those damn bone spurs kept him out of battle.
Trueblue Texan
(4,540 posts)joanbarnes
(2,125 posts)Celerity
(54,685 posts)Label: Not On Label (Scambo Self-released) none
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llmart
(17,664 posts)mwmisses4289
(4,446 posts)NHvet
(306 posts)Cadet bone spurs was too busy trying not to catch VD and syphilis during the Vietnam war to worry about anything else.
MissouriDem47
(427 posts)Especially those of us whose lives were affected by the Viet Nam War?
He was nothing but a lying draft dodger then and he's nothing but a liar now.
BeneteauBum
(615 posts)It continues to mean nothing except the orange creature is delusional.
Peace ☮️
ChicagoTeamster
(1,087 posts)aggiesal
(10,850 posts)Bo Zarts
(26,405 posts)3catwoman3
(29,600 posts)During a 2 week trip in Scotland 20 years ago, we noticed very liberal use of the F word which is pronounced as fook with the vowels sound like those in hookah.
Diem Bien Phu-ck is perfect.
Kid Berwyn
(24,726 posts)Its been 70 years since the French surrender at Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam. The Republicans in Washington did all they could to keep the war going, sending France all the weapons and ammo they could. But it wasnt enough, so VP Richard Nixon and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles proposed Operation VULTURE.

We might give them a few.
Did the US offer to drop atom bombs at Dien Bien Phu?
By Fredrik Logevall
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists | February 21, 2016
Excerpt
Turning to Dulles, the foreign minister noted the presence of American ships in the Gulf of Tonkin and Dulless repeated public statements that the United States would not tolerate the expansion of communism. If Washington so desired it could now reconcile those twin realities by assisting her ally at Dien Bien Phu. He merely looked glum, Bidault later remembered of the Americans reaction, and did not even promise to repeat my request to Washington.
But Dulles did offer a response, the nature of which has been shrouded in controversy for more than half a century. According to Bidault, the American took him aside during an intermission and asked him whether atomic bombs could be effective at Dien Bien Phu. If so, Dulles allegedly went on, his government could provide two such bombs to France. Bidault said he turned down the suggestion flat, on the grounds that the bombs would destroy the garrison as well as the Viet Minh, while dropping them farther away, on supply lines, would risk war with China. When informed a few months later of Bidaults claim, Dulles said he could not recall making such an offer and insisted there must have been a misunderstanding.
Given Bidaults visible exhaustion on the day in question, and his muddled speechmaking, and given the lack of any British or American confirmation of the claim, it is reasonable to suppose Dulles had it right: No offer was made. On the other hand, Bidaults version is supported by senior French official Jean Chauvel in his memoirs, and by French general Paul Ely in his diary, which was kept on a daily basis. Ely, a key player on Indochina strategy in these months, wrote that he was of two minds about the offer of two atom bombs. The psychological impact would be tremendous, but the [military] effectiveness would was uncertain, and it carries the risk of generalized warfare.
Moreover, Bidaults contention that Washington might offer atom bombs to his government had an inherent plausibility. In December 1953, when Western leaders held talks in Bermuda, Eisenhower alarmed the British and French delegations by referring casually to the atomic bomb as just another weapon in the Wests arsenal, one that might be used if the Chinese under Mao Zedong violated the terms of the recently-concluded truce in the Korean War. In February 1954, the president told Congressional leaders that in the event of war with China the United States would go all the way, with no limitations on targets hit or weapons used.
You could drop the Bomb, clean those commies out, and the band could play the Marseillaise. At several points in the weeks thereafter, US strategists considered the possible use of the Bomb, and according to one interpretation Operation Vulture always had, from its inception, an atomic dimension. In early April, a study group in the Pentagon examined the possibility of using atomic weapons at Dien Bien Phu and concluded that three tactical A-bombs, properly employed, would be sufficient to obliterate the Viet Minh effort there. Admiral Arthur Radford used this finding to suggest the use of the A-bomb to the National Security Council on April 7. According to Air Force Chief of Staff Nathan Twining, You could take all day to drop a bomb, make sure you put it in the right place
and clean those Commies out of there and the band could play the Marseillaise and the French could come marching out
in great shape.
Continues
https://thebulletin.org/2016/02/we-might-give-them-a-few-did-the-us-offer-to-drop-atom-bombs-at-dien-bien-phu/
These warmonger greedheads from history have passed the torch to the warmonger greedheads of today. Why I bring it up: We the People didnt get to vote on it, nor our representatives in Congress, the decision was made without our input, in secret.
Captain Zero
(8,936 posts)Not sure he could have won that war, since by his own previous statements, he was battling bone spurs and venereal disease, so he was pretty busy.
He uses UNTESTABLE HYPOTHESIS CONSTANTLY.
Grim Chieftain
(1,886 posts)He should have strapped on the boots and led the charge.
Cowardly blow hard. I despise him more each and every day
UpInArms
(55,097 posts)that comes from the anus mouth, will be a grand day.
LPBBEAR
(667 posts)immediately comes to mind of a fat sweaty Trump dressed like Rambo, golf caddy in tow carrying his golf clubs while he swings a 9 Iron at the Viet Cong.......
Nah, he would have bungled that war worse than Nixon did the first time around.
Please remove this insane fuck before he starts WW3.
thesquanderer
(13,056 posts)He left the actual mess of an endgame to Biden.
MIButterfly
(2,903 posts)he would run in unarmed and capture the shooter all by himself. I didn't believe him then and I don't believe him now. In fact, I never believe anything that comes out of his lying mouth and I can't believe anybody on the face of this earth still does.
marble falls
(72,200 posts)sop
(18,909 posts)JokeHer
(53 posts)BULLSHIT!!!! Hes a f*ckin clown and a disgrace!
maxsolomon
(38,929 posts)Let's all pay attention to it and not his utter malevolent incompetence.
Klarkashton
(5,355 posts)The point of his grift.
twodogsbarking
(19,015 posts)He's Super Trump.
dalton99a
(94,749 posts)
3catwoman3
(29,600 posts)Hes so full of shit that maybe its not bronzer making his fugly face brown.
The tone-deaf 5 times draft dodger would be well advised to keep his trap shut about Viet Nam.
malaise
(296,946 posts)Fucker still hides his high school and college records
Fucker has been bankrupt too many times to count.
But he is the greatest of all time at everything.
That said - he is the greatest at one thing - the only convicted felon ever to occupy the WH.
That is all 😀
City Lights
(25,932 posts)It's a pity no one cares enough about him to do something about it.
republianmushroom
(22,449 posts)Vinca
(54,153 posts)Drum
(10,724 posts)
struggle4progress
(126,458 posts)It's a bit late now
malaise
(296,946 posts)He claimed he could end the Russia-Ukraine war within 24 hours if elected.
no_hypocrisy
(55,100 posts)
?c=2electric_blue68
(27,010 posts)Totally Tunsie
(11,896 posts)We're already 7 weeks into your 4-week war.
Asshole.
