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Passages

(4,344 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 07:59 AM 23 hrs ago

Norman Ornstein: Trump has called the left: - Enemy within - Scum - Terrorists - Vermin - Radical

- Lunatics - Demonic - Evil - Fascists - Marxists - Communists - Garbage - The enemy of the people - The enemy within - Treasonous - Animals - Degenerates - Jew haters - Lowlives


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Norman Ornstein: Trump has called the left: - Enemy within - Scum - Terrorists - Vermin - Radical (Original Post) Passages 23 hrs ago OP
Should some one alert Dana Bash? Traildogbob 22 hrs ago #1
She's certainly passing her audition BlueKota 22 hrs ago #6
He's like one of those old-time Kodak projectors. tavernier 22 hrs ago #2
Always true about him. multigraincracker 22 hrs ago #3
"This isn't fringe rhetoric." I call bullshit on that. Martin Eden 22 hrs ago #4
I would have to say Just Jerome 22 hrs ago #7
I've called Trump a fascist many times Martin Eden 19 hrs ago #18
Says, Eric Adams - corrupt piece of shit that he is. harumph 22 hrs ago #5
Not enough caffeine. It took me until your post to remember him. niyad 21 hrs ago #8
Yep, Adams was jonesing for a Trump pardon. harumph 21 hrs ago #12
The hostility needs to be mutual. We need to treat the enemies of American democracy as our enemies. hay rick 21 hrs ago #9
Outside of Jew Haters these labels are what Hitler and the Nazis called Jews Botany 21 hrs ago #10
True, Trump made his ambitions no secret. Passages 21 hrs ago #11
He is publicly murdering people both here in the United States and internationally, both of his elections ... Botany 21 hrs ago #13
I don't think it was a conspiracy, nor a false-flag event. Wednesdays 19 hrs ago #19
Yup! Botany 19 hrs ago #20
Strange Rebl2 21 hrs ago #14
Projection. usonian 20 hrs ago #15
Shook who now? ECL213 20 hrs ago #16
When I confront MAGATs with this rhetoric BeneteauBum 20 hrs ago #17
My brother and I just had brunch with Norm DFW 18 hrs ago #21
You're very fortunate to know him. I admire and respect Norman even when we do not agree. Passages 18 hrs ago #22
That short description is very accurate. DFW 12 hrs ago #23

BlueKota

(5,490 posts)
6. She's certainly passing her audition
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 08:58 AM
22 hrs ago

to please her soon to be new bosses! They won't be firing her!

tavernier

(14,485 posts)
2. He's like one of those old-time Kodak projectors.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 08:32 AM
22 hrs ago

Just take any of those words and light them up on a white screen and there you have Mr. Donald J Trump

Martin Eden

(15,771 posts)
4. "This isn't fringe rhetoric." I call bullshit on that.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 08:53 AM
22 hrs ago

Other than stating Trump is a fascist, which pretty close to the truth, which Democratic leaders said the rest of those things?

Just Jerome

(523 posts)
7. I would have to say
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:02 AM
22 hrs ago

that, "Trump is a fascist" is more than just pretty close to the truth.

Martin Eden

(15,771 posts)
18. I've called Trump a fascist many times
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:27 AM
19 hrs ago

He is certainly an authoritarian wanna be dictator, but application of the term "fascist" connotes an ideology. The actions of this administration may fall into the category established by Franco, Mussolini, and Hitler, but Trump himself has no real ideology. It's all about filling the bottomless pit of his ego and greed.

BTW. I don't use the acronym TSF. I stick with TFG for The Fascist Grifter.

The only reason I hedged my statement with "pretty close to the truth" is that I'm reluctant to assert something as truth or fact, in order to avoid delving into semantics on "fascism."

It really wasn't necessary to hedge here at DU, but it's a habit of mine when debating others who are not of like mind.

hay rick

(9,668 posts)
9. The hostility needs to be mutual. We need to treat the enemies of American democracy as our enemies.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:11 AM
21 hrs ago

Botany

(77,641 posts)
10. Outside of Jew Haters these labels are what Hitler and the Nazis called Jews
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:29 AM
21 hrs ago

Trump’s 1st wife has testified that he had a book of Hitler’s speeches by his bed. Trump and Miller
are planning even more radical fascism for America. Be it immigrants, climate scientists, liberals,
FBI agents who believe in the rule of law, real journalists, brown people, real medical professionals,
LGBT and educated people he sees them as enemies that need to be eliminated. The D o J has all but
said that are going to let the ICE agents who murdered Good and Pretti walk away from any charges.

Trump, “I want to be a dictator from day one.” Rough quote.

Botany

(77,641 posts)
13. He is publicly murdering people both here in the United States and internationally, both of his elections ...
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 09:58 AM
21 hrs ago

… were dirty, he learned his behavior from Roy Cohn, he is a Russian asset, along with his cruelty, racism, sexism, anti intellectualism, grifting, stupidity, and his phony sucking up to America’s Christo Fascism,
are all on public display. He is burning America and or Democracy to the ground too along with our
climate because he has been paid and is still being paid by the fossil fuel industries.

That “attack” @ the White House Corespondents Dinner has Reichstag Fire all over it. @ least that is
what I think.

Wednesdays

(22,903 posts)
19. I don't think it was a conspiracy, nor a false-flag event.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:45 AM
19 hrs ago

What I CAN say is, "how convenient" for TSF. And that yeah, he will take as much advantage of the situation as he possibly can.

Botany

(77,641 posts)
20. Yup!
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 12:09 PM
19 hrs ago

Very convenient. He has never attended a WHCD but he attended this one after the courts
shut down his ballroom/grift palace/security bunker and he has some kind of reason for it.

They didn’t look too concerned after “the shooting.”

Trump and White House officials were all smiles and appeared in good spirits at the press conference following the WHCD incident

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2026-04-26T10:13:21.352Z


usonian

(26,124 posts)
15. Projection.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 10:17 AM
20 hrs ago

Found on Hacker News.


This decapitation of education, military, cyber-defense, public news, the arts, disaster preparedness, climate science ... the list goes on ... is so systematic that it can only be described as a fifth column effort to destroy the U.S. from inside, which Putin can't do from outside.

BeneteauBum

(650 posts)
17. When I confront MAGATs with this rhetoric
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 10:35 AM
20 hrs ago

I ask ‘Is this how you view me?’ The ones that don’t know me (we get a number of these during our weekly rally) are vehement in their agreement. The ones who know me say ‘you’re not the typical left wing lunatic’.
So one side views me as the enemy while the other thinks I’m a decent person. These morons all buy into the BS hate spewed by this administration. It seems they just enjoy the hate and will never change.

Peace ☮️

DFW

(60,344 posts)
21. My brother and I just had brunch with Norm
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 12:36 PM
18 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Apr 27, 2026, 07:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Ironically enough, it was right across the street from the Washington Hilton.

Norm said he used to go to the WH Correspondents' Dinner every year when it was purely a journalistic event. He said that in recent years, it had grown to a "look at which celebrity I got to get my picture taken with" event, and he had grown tired of it.

A little over ten years ago, he co-authored a book about how Republican scheming was impeding most progress instigated by the Obama Administration. it was called, "It's Even Worse Than It Looks." He now says, a new version might be appropriate.

Norm was surprisingly downbeat on the coming elections. He noted that Democratic solidarity was crumbling where it shouldn't. As "Washington's most quoted pundit," he has been around the block more than just about anyone in DC, has seen more than almost anyone, knows more people than almost anyone. His comment about the California Governor's race was that it was disheartening to see so much distraction among the Democratic candidates, thought it should be between the money (Steyer) and the competence (Becerra), end of story. Katie Porter has long since sawn off the tree limb on which she had been sitting so pretty. Michigan Governor and Senate were being deliberately dsabotaged by so-called "progressive" Arab-Americans who have no good intentions (he says Mallory McMorrow should have had this all sewn up if common sense were to prevail). President in 2028? He thinks we might see a strong, totally outside candidate. If not, he likes Mark Kelly (a lot--the anti-smooth candidate), also Andy Beshear of Kentucky. He hopes that destructive forces from outside, such as the more extreme Michigan Muslims or Bernie Sanders will not have more sway than their numbers warrant. Out of left field, he likes Jon Ossoff for Senate majority leader, which blew me away. I don't even know if Jon knows that anyone of consequence is thinking in that direction.

As for foreign policy, he (duh) can't stand Netanyahu (outside of Trump and the UAE, can anyone?), thinks there has rarely been a more out-for-himself style western leader. He thinks (as do I) that Putin has been meddling a LOT in internal US politics since 2015, says our stocks of weapons has been seriously depleted, as has been our good will toward our European allies--as well as theirs toward us.. He thinks it will be decades before the major NATO players will trust us as senior partner again. I hope he is wrong about that. I don't the western democracies have that long.

Now that he has retired from the AEI, he is involved with politically motivating inner-city youth into getting involved in politics and debate clubs, and not just one of these organizations, but more like six of them.

All this covers maybe 20% of what we discussed, but two hours with Norm is like just about ten hours with anyone else. He has had family and health issues in recent years, but he keeps on keeping on, and I value him VERY highly as a friend.

Passages

(4,344 posts)
22. You're very fortunate to know him. I admire and respect Norman even when we do not agree.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 12:50 PM
18 hrs ago

Smart, honest, and with a huge heart.

DFW

(60,344 posts)
23. That short description is very accurate.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 07:04 PM
12 hrs ago

We have known Norm for over 20 Years. His intellect towered above the so-called "conservatives" at AEI. He and Judy have not had a smooth ride these past 15+ years. The death of his son Matt was a blow from which they never completely recovered. Some friends of ours had a similar experience with their younger son in Dallas, and while they try to submerge themselves in distracting projects, nothing ever really puts things right, at least not the way they were before.

Norm has since retired from the AEI, and is spending a lot of time volunteering with youth outreach organizations, mostly in the DC area. They are working with high school age youth, many from single parent families, and schooling them in debating and local politics--sort of what Hillary Clinton and Howard Dean have quietly been doing, but on a strictly local scale. Norm said that out of one group of 300 young people, exactly 100% of them graduated high school recently. This was the first time this had happened, and he, along with his group, considered it a major accomplishment. Compare this to the recent "major accomplishments" of people like Jared Kushner, and you get a microcosm of the difference between the two parties. The scary thing is that both are proud of their accomplishments.

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