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You want the American dream? (Original Post) Aviation Pro 23 hrs ago OP
Rec. Rec. Rec malaise 23 hrs ago #1
Yes. I think that message is "consultant inspired" and is not what I, personally, want to hear. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #2
Yes, tho I love Harris, I'm fatigued with the whole "Amercan Dream" schtick. harumph 22 hrs ago #5
Yes,well,you have to be asleep to dream. BattleRow 20 hrs ago #9
K&R spanone 22 hrs ago #3
Demonic possession. Aussie105 22 hrs ago #4
My prediction, usually accurate. multigraincracker 22 hrs ago #6
Absolutely not. OldBaldy1701E 22 hrs ago #7
Yes. We are way past that, and our candidates need to catch up. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #11
They call it the American Dream because that's the only way you will see it. Ray Bruns 22 hrs ago #8
The "American dream" Dave Id 20 hrs ago #10
Unfortunately, the American Dream is part of the problem; not the solution.... Ol Janx Spirit 19 hrs ago #12
The "American Dream" was horseshit from the get go for the majority. Smokster 17 hrs ago #13

Scrivener7

(59,900 posts)
2. Yes. I think that message is "consultant inspired" and is not what I, personally, want to hear.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 08:26 AM
22 hrs ago

I want to hear, "I know we are in more danger of losing our Democracy, and with it the American Dream, than we have ever been in my lifetime. I understand what is happening to you in the midst of that. I understand it cannot be business as usual and "let's just move forward" when we are able to get rid of this regime. I understand we need to restore justice and rebuild the fundamentals of our government from this shambles so that it serves you and not the billionaires. That will be my job. Your job is to never underestimate how much damage republicans have done to you personally, and to work with me and with Democrats to rebuild an America we be proud of again."

harumph

(3,339 posts)
5. Yes, tho I love Harris, I'm fatigued with the whole "Amercan Dream" schtick.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 08:43 AM
22 hrs ago

She as well as any other contenders should be talking about accountability for corruption. Something like
"We are going to audit; we are going to claw back fraudulent gains and stop this elite class of grifters from robbing the American people of their healthcare and retirement." "We are going to investigate and prosecute abusers of children."

My American Dream won't be complete without perp walks.

Aussie105

(8,089 posts)
4. Demonic possession.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 08:30 AM
22 hrs ago

The only rational explanation.

Any exorcists in the White House?

No?

Wonder why!

US presidents are a variable lot, aren't they?
From the humble, intelligent and well-meaning ones to the demented and pure evil.
All had glued on admirers who dissipated soon after they left office.
Hope that happens this time, and soon.

Scrivener7

(59,900 posts)
11. Yes. We are way past that, and our candidates need to catch up.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:26 AM
19 hrs ago

Love her, but this won't work.

Dave Id

(304 posts)
10. The "American dream"
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:06 AM
20 hrs ago

Nightmares are dreams too. We are living in one right now thanks to Donald J. Trump, those who voted for him and those voters who didn't vote because they didn't like the choices.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,046 posts)
12. Unfortunately, the American Dream is part of the problem; not the solution....
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 11:34 AM
19 hrs ago

It has encouraged us to be an incredibly selfish society.

It somehow encourages even recent immigrants to want to pull the ladder up on their fellow fortune-seekers.

It--combined with rugged individualism--leaves us vulnerable to concepts of society that allow us to accept as normal things like working long hours for little pay and less vacation in order to pad the American Dream of others; a lack of affordable healthcare because we refuse to vote for the taxes it would take to ensure everyone had access to it; the lack of a nationwide safe public transportation system that is accessible to everyone versus ever-expanding roadways for our little individual transportation pods that become less accessible by the day to those without means thus vastly limiting their ability to get more of those means.

The American Dream stemmed from a rejection of the rigid class structures, lack of land ownership, and limited economic mobility that characterized European aristocratic and royal systems, but we have evolved that rejection into a system that accepts a zeitgeist of selfishness as being good. It is not.

Until the American Dream is for all Americans to create a society that works as best as it can for everyone we will continue to care only about the price of eggs and make no progress towards a just society for all.

Smokster

(32 posts)
13. The "American Dream" was horseshit from the get go for the majority.
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 01:14 PM
17 hrs ago

Delusional revivals and nostalgia for a time that never was for the majority is worn out and tired. MAGA was built on just that kind of delusion. For millions, it was always more Grapes Of Wrath than American Dream. That said, Harris could have done a lot worse. Words are not action but she's getting closer to being on the pulse of the matter at least. This should be hammered home every day without end. One only has to look at General Discussion on a daily basis to understand it isn't and a lot of people have learned very little in what actually matters and political priorities. No offense, but the majority of what's posted on these pages as political and economic discourse is grade school social media garbage. I like a good laugh and insult as much as anyone, but that also wears thin quickly when considering the disaster that is this country in the economic sphere for the struggling majority. Harris was over the target and a breath of fresh air for a refreshing change.

If we look around today, it's clear that so much of the economic, political, and civic power has increasingly been concentrated among those at the top. Concentrated in the hands of an entrenched elite. Take for example our economy. It is clear that deliberate policy decisions made over decades resulted in a drift away from the needs of working people. Trade deals that hollowed out communities as jobs got outsourced and offshored. Deregulation of a financial system that let big banks prey on everyday people. The cost of living steadily rising while wages did not keep up, making child care, health care, and rent more unaffordable and putting the dream of home ownership further out of reach for so many.

These decisions and more, I believe, contributed to how we got here today. And let's be honest, many of these policies were supported by leaders from both parties. Now, of course, Democrats, we never bought into trickle down. That was Ronald Reagan's doing. But plenty of Democrats did buy into the flawed assumptions, many of those flawed assumptions behind it. for example, that if we trusted the wisdom of the market, working people would eventually get taken care of. The assumption that growth at the top would take care of everybody else. That brutal cuts to social programs for the sake of reducing the deficit was the best path to economic growth. But those assumptions were proven wrong. And even though working people did everything right, worked from the day through the night, we saw that the economic system essentially stopped delivering for them.

And over time, the American dream for many has all but turned into an American myth. As power consolidated in economic systems, we saw the same same kind of trend in our political system, a broken campaign finance system which disproportionately allowed big money to dictate the political agenda and a policymaking process increasingly influenced more by Washington insiders than everyday working people. So, it's no surprise in the midst of all this, our country has experienced an erosion of civic life, growing distrust in government and each other, increasing economic inequality, and a polarized nation.



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