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Where is that? (PRO-CONFEDERACY march) hlthe2b 4 hrs ago #1
Somewhere in the Bible Belt. multigraincracker 4 hrs ago #2
No doubt SheltieLover 4 hrs ago #3
WHERE in the Bible Belt????? and WHEN? Brainstormy 4 hrs ago #6
Source here: ZDU 3 hrs ago #9
That picture, and event, is from 25 years ago!!!! Brainstormy 3 hrs ago #14
Do you actually believe things have changed for the better in the last 25 years? generalbetrayus 3 hrs ago #23
We lived in Mississippi for awhile in the 1960s PatSeg 2 hrs ago #52
We lived in Mississippi for awhile in the 1960s PatSeg 2 hrs ago #53
I absolutely do. Brainstormy 1 hr ago #62
11 years ago, actually. mwmisses4289 2 hrs ago #33
The photo is captioned with the year 2000 (n/m) Soul_of_Wit 1 hr ago #63
Ah, thank you, I stand corrected. mwmisses4289 1 hr ago #68
You seem angry. You okay? ZDU 2 hrs ago #44
yep, I'm a little angry. Brainstormy 1 hr ago #65
I from it. multigraincracker 3 hrs ago #10
Somewhere below the belt. BattleRow 3 hrs ago #25
Why do they always carry the losing battle flag of the confederacy? Omnipresent 1 hr ago #59
I agree, the South is the pits. Polly Hennessey 4 hrs ago #4
That was my experience, too, in North Carolina. KKK was IN THE PHONE BOOK. Maru Kitteh 2 hrs ago #32
All that sugary-sweet hospitality PatSeg 2 hrs ago #54
What confounds the stupidity is I'd that I bet that Ilsa 4 hrs ago #5
A hierarchical society even to this day paleotn 3 hrs ago #11
I'm originally from Tennessee, although I've traveled a lot both domestically and internationally. Laffy Kat 3 hrs ago #7
I'm from Texas originally ITAL 3 hrs ago #12
I've seen a huge Confederate flag flying in southeastern Utah, just over the Colorado border. generalbetrayus 3 hrs ago #24
Source below: ZDU 3 hrs ago #8
picture is from 2000 Brainstormy 3 hrs ago #15
The Stars and Bars fly all over the South ZDU 3 hrs ago #27
There are 2 folks within 5 miles of where I live in North Carolina HappyH 2 hrs ago #35
NO flag is supposed to be flown above the Stars and Stripes. Period... GiqueCee 2 hrs ago #49
Has it changed in 26 years? paleotn 2 hrs ago #39
Dominated by religionists and racists ZDU 2 hrs ago #42
I only go back for funerals now... paleotn 1 hr ago #55
I left my heart in San Francisco ZDU 1 hr ago #60
Hopefully once that A.I. bubble bursts, the real estate prices and rents will go down with it. Crowman2009 1 hr ago #66
A source of the image was provided. ZDU 2 hrs ago #45
Apology accepted BeneteauBum 3 hrs ago #13
WHO offered an apology? Brainstormy 3 hrs ago #16
I did, in the original post. Mellow out, dude! generalbetrayus 3 hrs ago #20
You seem to have a problem. Keepthesoulalive 2 hrs ago #37
Stop, please, or take it off line. Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #47
sure. I'm a lefty from CA living in NC. barbtries 3 hrs ago #17
Me too DownriverDem 3 hrs ago #18
In Virginia, we have the Virginia Flaggers AverageOldGuy 3 hrs ago #19
They're lost cause mythologists. paleotn 2 hrs ago #48
I hate to say it's pretty common to see 'em in north central TX Torchlight 3 hrs ago #21
I was born in "the South" in 1947 PCB66 3 hrs ago #22
For the most part Yankees have not hated the South for a very long time. hadEnuf 2 hrs ago #29
I was responding PCB66 2 hrs ago #31
The south is Yankees. Melon 2 hrs ago #36
I hate racists, wherever they are. CaptainTruth 3 hrs ago #26
Exactly. 36-46% of the vote in southern states went to Harris. She got 49% in Georgia. surfered 2 hrs ago #30
Those were black folks Keepthesoulalive 2 hrs ago #41
I was black when I voted for Kamala? TheProle 2 hrs ago #51
The majority of Kamala's votes in Georgia came from black folks Keepthesoulalive 1 hr ago #56
Harris had 4.8 million votes in Texas TheProle 1 hr ago #61
Some white and Hispanic folks with a brain voted for her Keepthesoulalive 1 hr ago #72
Lincoln had it wrong. MadMike47 2 hrs ago #28
I've been in the deepest south for decades. Melon 2 hrs ago #34
Seen on facebook from Marquette Michigan GusBob 2 hrs ago #38
But is it the law Keepthesoulalive 1 hr ago #58
Is what the law? have you ever been to the UP? GusBob 1 hr ago #64
I'm speaking about your state legislature Keepthesoulalive 1 hr ago #70
Would be real shame if someone vandalized it. Crowman2009 1 hr ago #69
Excellent point and moniss 2 hrs ago #40
My neighbor jonstl08 2 hrs ago #43
Northern White girl soon moving back South to NC Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #46
People here are looking for an out. Keepthesoulalive 2 hrs ago #50
You'd be better off hating bigotry Soul_of_Wit 1 hr ago #57
I hate Hillsdale county Michigan. Crowman2009 1 hr ago #67
There are bigots and racists everywhere. mnhtnbb 1 hr ago #71
So do I get the red out 1 hr ago #73
Evidently Indiana isn't any better. Ferrets are Cool 1 hr ago #74
Look at all those ugly people! BidenRocks 1 hr ago #75

hlthe2b

(114,545 posts)
1. Where is that? (PRO-CONFEDERACY march)
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:00 AM
4 hrs ago

What to say... We have a lot of morons in this country and their racism is not hidden...

Brainstormy

(2,550 posts)
6. WHERE in the Bible Belt????? and WHEN?
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:18 AM
4 hrs ago

if you're posting this as though it were "news" along with a "I hate the South" remark, I demand you authenticate this photo.

generalbetrayus

(1,974 posts)
23. Do you actually believe things have changed for the better in the last 25 years?
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:13 AM
3 hrs ago

How about all the recent gerrymandering to push out Black representation in state houses and the US Congress? When I grew up in the South, I used to hear, "The South shall rise again." I laughed at it at the time. Not so much anymore.

PatSeg

(53,463 posts)
52. We lived in Mississippi for awhile in the 1960s
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:17 PM
2 hrs ago

and I'll never forget the culture shock I experienced. I clearly remember "The South shall rise again", the blatant racism, and lots of "Rebel" signs on school lockers. I had never seen "Whites Only" restrooms and drinking fountains. It was like being in an alternate universe.

I really believed that most of that had died out over the years, but apparently it was alive and well under the surface. Trump brought them out into the open especially after the country elected a black man for president. With Obama, I thought we'd finally reached a major turning point, but unfortunately, it often brought out the worst in so many people.

PatSeg

(53,463 posts)
53. We lived in Mississippi for awhile in the 1960s
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:17 PM
2 hrs ago

and I'll never forget the culture shock I experienced. I clearly remember "The South shall rise again", the blatant racism, and lots of "Rebel" signs on school lockers. I had never seen "Whites Only" restrooms and drinking fountains. It was like being in an alternate universe.

I really believed that most of that had died out over the years, but apparently it was alive and well under the surface. Trump brought them out into the open especially after the country elected a black man for president. With Obama, I thought we'd finally reached a major turning point, but unfortunately, it often brought out the worst in so many people.

Brainstormy

(2,550 posts)
62. I absolutely do.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:39 PM
1 hr ago

I wouldn't purport to say that there isn't still racism, hatred and stupidity in the south, but I'd say this exists--still exists-- everywhere. Particularly in Washington these days. I would remind my DU friends, though, about where historically most of the protests, demonstrations, and PROGRESS against racism also originated. It wasn't in New York.

mwmisses4289

(4,648 posts)
68. Ah, thank you, I stand corrected.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:45 PM
1 hr ago

The version I'm seeing on my phone didn't date the photo, just the article.

ZDU

(1,373 posts)
44. You seem angry. You okay?
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:00 PM
2 hrs ago

I provided, as a courtesy, the source of the image. Fact-based. Evidence. Data point. And your response is hostile and accusatory. You okay, bro?

Brainstormy

(2,550 posts)
65. yep, I'm a little angry.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:42 PM
1 hr ago

thanks for the source of the image. But you must realize that posting a picture like that, from 25 years ago, makes a case for bigotry in itself.

Omnipresent

(7,512 posts)
59. Why do they always carry the losing battle flag of the confederacy?
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:35 PM
1 hr ago

This is the only flag for me!

Polly Hennessey

(8,946 posts)
4. I agree, the South is the pits.
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:11 AM
4 hrs ago

I have lived in Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and Texas. My dad was in the Air Force. I have a sister living in South Carolina, by far the worst.

The South has a thin veneer of hospitality but what lurks beneath is not pretty.

Maru Kitteh

(31,956 posts)
32. That was my experience, too, in North Carolina. KKK was IN THE PHONE BOOK.
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:32 AM
2 hrs ago

Fake smiles on the outside, oily, acrid hate on the inside abound.

PatSeg

(53,463 posts)
54. All that sugary-sweet hospitality
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:21 PM
2 hrs ago

was such a turnoff to me. It was so fake and it masked a lot of ugly hate.

Ilsa

(64,533 posts)
5. What confounds the stupidity is I'd that I bet that
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:16 AM
4 hrs ago

most of the ancestors of these Confed-heads couldn't afford to own slaves. The ancestors got bamboozled into going to war to protect enslavement rights of greedy landowners. They died for the feudal masters over "states' rights".

paleotn

(22,631 posts)
11. A hierarchical society even to this day
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:55 AM
3 hrs ago

Different groups settled different colonies for varying reasons and that still echos today. The philosophical differences between New England and the southeast are traced back to Cavaliers and Roundheads. UVA’s mascot isn’t arbitrary. After centuries and waves of immigration, the echos are still there.

Laffy Kat

(16,988 posts)
7. I'm originally from Tennessee, although I've traveled a lot both domestically and internationally.
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:23 AM
3 hrs ago

I've also lived in Illinois and now in Colorado. I'd never move back to Tennessee, but racism is everywhere. The first time I saw an openly out Klansman, in full supremacist regalia--pointy hat and white sheet--was in Illinois. He was handing out flyers on a street corner.

ITAL

(1,364 posts)
12. I'm from Texas originally
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:56 AM
3 hrs ago

And have seen more Confederate flags in rural Pennsylvania while visiting my in-laws than I did growing up back there.


(I live in California now)

generalbetrayus

(1,974 posts)
24. I've seen a huge Confederate flag flying in southeastern Utah, just over the Colorado border.
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:16 AM
3 hrs ago

They are all over the place now that racism is allowed to be open and overt again.

ZDU

(1,373 posts)
27. The Stars and Bars fly all over the South
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:23 AM
3 hrs ago

It is a fact. From southern Illinois to Florida that flag flys to this very day. Consider yourself informed from a resident of Tennessee

HappyH

(254 posts)
35. There are 2 folks within 5 miles of where I live in North Carolina
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:37 AM
2 hrs ago

that fly the Stars and Bars in front of their houses. One of them flys an American flag on the same pole beneath the Stars and Bars. Nothing has changed since 2000, not much has changed since 1860.

GiqueCee

(4,665 posts)
49. NO flag is supposed to be flown above the Stars and Stripes. Period...
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:12 PM
2 hrs ago

... and especially not the Confederate Battle Flag that celebrates traitors, 'cause that's what secession was: Flat-out treason. Don't forget that it was THE SOUTH that fired the first shot when they bombarded Fort Sumpter.
It enrages me that these witless yahoos dare to call themselves "patriots" while they fly that damned flag that says they're anything but.

paleotn

(22,631 posts)
39. Has it changed in 26 years?
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:49 AM
2 hrs ago

I'm from TN. Born and raised. Haven't lived there in decades because it hasn't changed. Great people down there, sure, but in the corners I lived in, middle and east TN, western NC, coastal SC, they're outnumbered by bible thumpers and racists. Oh, the stories I can tell!

ZDU

(1,373 posts)
42. Dominated by religionists and racists
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:56 AM
2 hrs ago

That's my impression of Middle Tennessee... I'm here for work. And I will relocate as soon as I find a new position. I do not like the South. I have met some great people yet we are outnumbered and all of us are silenced or face consequences and/or threats (incl. job loss). That is the reality of the USA (insert toxic positivity and shout freedom shouts here)

paleotn

(22,631 posts)
55. I only go back for funerals now...
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:27 PM
1 hr ago

And those are getting few and far between. Much of my family is now scattered to the wind anyway. And the things I do love, mostly cuisine, can be shipped or replicated here in the frozen north.

ZDU

(1,373 posts)
60. I left my heart in San Francisco
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:36 PM
1 hr ago

... one day I hope to return to live out my golden years 🍀

Crowman2009

(3,589 posts)
66. Hopefully once that A.I. bubble bursts, the real estate prices and rents will go down with it.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:42 PM
1 hr ago

Right now it looks like an overpriced bland tech-bro hellscape.

BeneteauBum

(742 posts)
13. Apology accepted
Tue May 12, 2026, 10:57 AM
3 hrs ago

So many people can’t deviate from their ingrained version of the truth. They’ve grown up in this bigoted culture and can’t perceive anything else.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,396 posts)
37. You seem to have a problem.
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:44 AM
2 hrs ago

I don’t see too many folks up north attempting to abolish a constitutional amendment so certain people lose their citizenship. The klan is now in many southern state houses.

barbtries

(31,344 posts)
17. sure. I'm a lefty from CA living in NC.
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:04 AM
3 hrs ago

i have a complicated relationship with this hellhole, where I was able to work myself and my son out of poverty, get a whole new career, and even buy a home, which was never going to happen in CA.

My thought is try not to hate the whole South because republicans have a vise like grip on it. I think that's called a broad brush. Consider that there are millions of Black people who live here. Millions of Democrats. NC is purple, but you'd never know it because of the fucking republicans who run it.

Don't hate the South. Hate republicans. i sure as fuck know I do.

AverageOldGuy

(4,132 posts)
19. In Virginia, we have the Virginia Flaggers
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:08 AM
3 hrs ago

Google "Virginia Flaggers" They have a Facebook page, a store, and a blog.

They identify themselves as:

Citizens of the Commonwealth who stand AGAINST those who would desecrate our Confederate Monuments and memorials, and FOR our Confederate Veterans.


There's a huge Confederate flag on a tall flagpole alongside I-95 between DC and Richmond -- that's theirs. I think they have a couple of others around the state.

paleotn

(22,631 posts)
48. They're lost cause mythologists.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:11 PM
2 hrs ago

We should ask them to reconcile Alexander Stephen's cornerstone speech with their supposed love of heritage and see if racism reveals its ugly head.

My own family history is complicated. It was complicated for many in TN. Some served in blue, some in gray. Some by choice, most not. Several in my maternal family tree were staunchly anti-secession and had to go live temporarily with family in KY for personal safety. 2 multi-great uncles in that line were so pissed about it they joined the Union Army, fought in the Chattanooga and Atlanta campaigns, followed Sherman on the March to the Sea and the Carolina campaign to Bentonville. Neither had qualms making Georgia and South Carolina howl. For them it was personal.

And it was always and forever will be about whether one human can own another.

Torchlight

(7,016 posts)
21. I hate to say it's pretty common to see 'em in north central TX
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:11 AM
3 hrs ago

I figure I'll see one or two flags, decals or bumper-stickers holding that image in honor every morning going to work on I-20 outside of Dallas.

PCB66

(177 posts)
22. I was born in "the South" in 1947
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:12 AM
3 hrs ago

Growing up my parents (Dixiecrats) told me I should hate Yankees.

I grew out of that mindset.

Maybe Yankees should out grow their hate of Southerners.

hadEnuf

(3,654 posts)
29. For the most part Yankees have not hated the South for a very long time.
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:27 AM
2 hrs ago

But the South never stopped hating on them and look where patience has gotten the Yankees now.

Melon

(1,647 posts)
36. The south is Yankees.
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:40 AM
2 hrs ago

There are more New Yorkers in a square mile of Florida than Floridians. My neighbors in Texas are 15% California’s and at least half if not more from all over. I just got back from South Carolina. One guy out of 8 was from there.

If Yankees hated the south they wouldn’t be populating it.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,396 posts)
41. Those were black folks
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:54 AM
2 hrs ago

Maybe we should say many white southerners. There are white racists in the north but they don’t set policy. As long as people deflect and pretend America does not have a racism problem nothing will change . We will continue to circle the drain and the world will move on without us. Trump defines the movement, everything he says and does shows the world the true American culture.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,396 posts)
56. The majority of Kamala's votes in Georgia came from black folks
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:29 PM
1 hr ago

The only reason kemp won’t join his southern brothers is because you do not want to energize that black voting bloc. Why must we avoid white fragility with soothing words such as not all. If my memory serves me well I think the electoral votes from Georgia went to Trump. Blacks voted for the lady. The majority of white people voted for the racist raping pedophile. It is what it is.

TheProle

(4,067 posts)
61. Harris had 4.8 million votes in Texas
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:36 PM
1 hr ago

there are 4.3 million Black men, women and children in the state. So even if every Black person, from infants to hospice voted for Harris, there would still be a half million votes from whitey.

You reductionist math ain't mathing.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,396 posts)
72. Some white and Hispanic folks with a brain voted for her
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:55 PM
1 hr ago

But in the south brains are in short supply so the majority of white people voted for him. We are speaking about Georgia how did we get to Texas. 64% of white males voted for him. The real tell is how many black people voted for their racist senators and state legislators. That stink is not going to come off easily. Tommy Tuberville and Desantis these cretins are on the electorate if that shoe fits wear it comfortably.

Melon

(1,647 posts)
34. I've been in the deepest south for decades.
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:37 AM
2 hrs ago

Texas now.
Maybe 25 years ago it was a bit sketchy with the southern flag. I see

one or something similar maybe every few years now. Mostly a hat or shirt. I’ve lived in the deepest southern states and now Texas.
I’ve heard worse up north over the last decade but even that is few and far between. The last star and bars flying I saw in north Kansas. That’s was maybe 8 years ago.
There was a “ klan” rally in GA in my town…..maybe 6 inbreds showed up and a few skinheads. There were hundreds of protesters. The protesters were just drawing attention to a few idiots with backwards views.

I’ve heard worse in Maine than Kentucky. You’d be surprised at how homogenized the country has become. Things not acceptable in the north are generally not acceptable here either. But neighbors are all races.

GusBob

(8,294 posts)
38. Seen on facebook from Marquette Michigan
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:45 AM
2 hrs ago

Which is about as far north in this country as one can get

A gallows stage complete with a noose, made as a roadside display advertisement for a MAGA construction company

No image from me

Keepthesoulalive

(2,396 posts)
58. But is it the law
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:34 PM
1 hr ago

And by that I mean. Is it accepted by you legislators. You will always have racists but in many areas in the south it is encouraged and culturally accepted.

GusBob

(8,294 posts)
64. Is what the law? have you ever been to the UP?
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:40 PM
1 hr ago

The sheriff says the display isnt against the law

I've lived in the South and I've lived in the UP both

Northern rural rednecks are far, far worse than Southern

Keepthesoulalive

(2,396 posts)
70. I'm speaking about your state legislature
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:48 PM
1 hr ago

In the south they are attempting and successfully reinstating legislature that disenfranchises black people. I don’t see Michigan Going white robe. There are racist pockets all over the USA but it is not the law.
People fled the south to get away from Jim Crow , guess what he’s back.

moniss

(9,143 posts)
40. Excellent point and
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:52 AM
2 hrs ago

the same holds true for indigenous people. They tell them to "get over" what was done to them but the government and the fascist crooks in business keep on trying to steal from them and negate their legal rights.

jonstl08

(576 posts)
43. My neighbor
Tue May 12, 2026, 11:57 AM
2 hrs ago

My former neighbor (passed away in 2020) was racist to the core. Flew the confederate flag every MLK day. Also very republican but our district was represented by a Black republican. The rep was canvassing in our neighborhood. Stopped to talk to me and I had a very good talk with him about what I thought was wrong with his policies. Very respectful. Then the police showed up. My neighbor comes running up to my house saying to the cops that is the man who does not belong in our neighborhood. Talking about the State Rep. Rep was dumbfounded they called the police on him. Told him this is the party you represent and not the first time he has called the police on anybody in the neighborhood that is not white.

Joinfortmill

(21,594 posts)
46. Northern White girl soon moving back South to NC
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:05 PM
2 hrs ago

near my son, who lives close to Charlotte. It's a very diverse area, but also very 'conservative'.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,396 posts)
50. People here are looking for an out.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:12 PM
2 hrs ago

Trump is the face of the south and Americas racism. His Supreme Court gutted southern black participation in democracy and most white folks don’t have a problem with that , they even voted for it.

Soul_of_Wit

(137 posts)
57. You'd be better off hating bigotry
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:32 PM
1 hr ago

...and working to restore the Extreme Court to a body worthy of the US Constitution.

Crowman2009

(3,589 posts)
67. I hate Hillsdale county Michigan.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:44 PM
1 hr ago

A lot right-wing police BS originates from that god-awful place known as Hillsdale college. Their stench also has spread to Jackson county Michigan where I'm originally from.

mnhtnbb

(33,487 posts)
71. There are bigots and racists everywhere.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:53 PM
1 hr ago

I never thought I could live in the South. Born in Manhattan, grew up in NJ, lived in California for 23 years before spending 12 years in Missouri and Nebraska.
I've lived in the Triangle area of North Carolina for almost 26 years: first Chapel Hill, then downtown Raleigh, and now Durham. I now live in a community that is more cosmopolitan than anywhere else I've ever lived. One of my neighbors served in the Obama Administration.
Please don't think that racism and bigotry is only confined to the South.

get the red out

(14,066 posts)
73. So do I
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:57 PM
1 hr ago

And I live in what is considered part of the south (though Kentucky winters are pretty damn cold). I have been very selective in who I have told in my life that I am do not believe in any religion, and simply can't make myself believe the Bible no matter how hard I tried as a kid.

BidenRocks

(3,471 posts)
75. Look at all those ugly people!
Tue May 12, 2026, 01:01 PM
1 hr ago

They all feel the need to be superior to someone. Too bad for them.
They all look like they lived near a "PoFolks" restaurant.
(I went to one near Baker's folly in NC)
Great food, But not too healthy.
I see they are only in Florida now.

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