that guy is a piece of work too

My AA group see both these men as ones just like us, except they haven't had that "nudge from the judge" yet.

i have wanted to see an AA group as observer so as to dispel Hollywood stereotypes.


i myself generally don’t drink alcohol.

I actually was able to tell the group what it was like to live with my alcoholic aunt and uncle when I was a teenager (disclosure - they weren't mean drunks, just, well, irresponsible.....they had a couple of toddlers I ended up taking care of a lot)....it shook some of the people in the room, hit close to home.

Patel and Hegseth both show all the classic sjgns.

and entitled. Alcoholics are an entitled bunch. Never responsible - always the victim.

bourbon with an FBI label implies he jonesing. When I was only allowed one drink a night I'd spend most of my day thinking of what I was going to have, when and how. I would seriously talk to an addiction counselor if I was him. I joined AA after a DUI (I didn't hit or hurt anybody) and have not had a drop since. One of the best things I have ever done.

34 years sober. These guys are classic examples

Drunk in a car accident. Luckily he didn't hurt or kill anyone else. And patel and the guy of war are both going to die drunk. That is pretty obvious to me from their behavior. Alcoholics aren't just addicted to alcohol, it's their makeup, they are addicted to everything. Both of them are now addicted to power. I sure hope they are being driven everywhere and not driving themselves.

She is his chief of staff. She fessed up in an extended Atlantic interview that her smelly boss has an alcoholic's personality. She said she's an expert on "big" personalities. Her father, athlete and announcer Pat Summerall had a significant alcohol problem before he sought help

There was a time when having a drinking problem was enough to derail your nomination for, say, secretary of state. Ahem, John Tower.

We are in strange times.

parents raised in a violent household with guns. I had my last drink before midnight New Years Eve 1992. At least my stoopidity wasn't played out on the world stage FFS. The head effer's whole cabinet and appointees all have some substance abuse problem, the worst being whatever speed they might be snorting. Assholes unleashed and running wild. DISGUSTIPATING

Both Trump and his father put so much untenable pressure on his eldest brother, the presumptive heir, that Fred Jr. turned to alcohol. And even as a child, DJT saw his opportunity to displace his brother as one day running the family and the family business. No compassion for his brother.

And DJT also witnessed how his brother was essentially helpless at being independent. Little Brother was in charge now.

My theory is Trump doesn't want any Cabinet member to get more attention and credit than he's getting. Simultaneously he's disgusted by their weakness for alcohol and pleased that he can control them. They'd never turn against him.

It's insanity squared.

I also think that drinking or drugs is a way for the narcissist to soothe or distract themselves when the world refuses to cooperate with their twisted world view.

In other words, it’s all related and it’s only going to get worse