He could chat intelligently with scientists and comedians alike. He is smart and witty. He will land on his feet. But this is so wrong!

i have ptsd from wathcing a bunch of thugs invade the capitol. i want my money....

SeeBS

There was so much of it here that I left for six months.

actually.

Veni
Vidi
Satis

I came
I saw
I had enough

I got better vibes watching the opening scene of Marat-Sade

am going to be ill."

No one's perfect but geeeebbzzzz ...

She's smart, empathetic, had literally first-hand knowledge of workings of governership, and the Presidency, The Senate, international relationships as Sec of State.
Incredible list of accomplishments!

There is no one here I recognize as such, but I couldn’t swear to it. Even if there are some, no one here posts with the venom and the rage that possessed those people at the time, so if some former members are here, they don’t act like it—to their credit, I might add. No one should be classified as irredeemable.

“Ah, but I was so much older then
“I’m younger than that now”

I generally believe in redemptiveness.

just don't like her. Can't tell you why, but I don't." Righhhhht

the agruements "ahem", discussions in her favor!

If you look at my profile, it'll tell you I created my DU account on 3/26/2013, but it was kind of a hit and run sign up. I didn't start coming here regularly until much later.

Back then, I was spending most of my time at LiveJournal. In particular, I was spending a lot of time at ONTD_Political, which was officially nonpartisan but in reality very Democratic dominated. I hung out there through both of Obama's administrations and had a great time, but things got really ugly during the lead up to the 2016 primaries and stayed that way through the election. I was a Hillary supporter, and the community was dominated by Bernie supporters who acted like Hillary was the devil incarnate or something. It was brutal. 😵‍💫 I gather it was pretty bad here, too, and I can't say I'm sorry I missed it. I found my way back to DU not long after the election, and it was nice to be able to leave the bad memories behind and start fresh here.

I hope things never get that heated here during an election again. I know better than to hold my breath, but I take comfort in knowing that DU survived the slings and arrows of 2016. Onward and upward, y'all!

we had the Hillary Group.

We didn't have groups when Obama was President. I left for 2 freaking years, and went to the Obama Diaries. .

In 2016 that I left DU for 5 years. And when I returned, many of those that were the agents of that discord were gone. DU is a much more pleasant place to navigate now.

You can draw a direct line from their decision to our current disastrous situation as a country.

I don't know what the hell they thought they were accomplishing, but clearly they've failed at it. Our country has literally lost decades of hard-fought progress. No one can play a part in that dismantling of progress while at the same time claiming they are a progressive.

been popping up lately on cable Teevee.

We were robbed both with Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

I know this sounds like a ridiculous thing to say, but for many years I was an independent voter, and I always voted D in every election. However in the 2008 primary I wanted to cast a vote for Hillary for President. In Pennsylvania, independents aren't allowed to vote in the primary, so I decided it was time for me to jump in. I enrolled as a Democrat and I've never looked back.

Hillary Clinton is a special, wonderful leader and human being. I can never say enough good things about her.

My paternal grandmother was hired by Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia of New York to be his labor liason, and then fired her because she was more friendly with labor than with La Guardia. She then became a NYC regional fundraiser for the 1948 Senate campaign for the mayor of Minneapolis. His name was Hubert Humphrey. That began a life-long (and generations-long) friendship with the so-called "Minnesota Democratic Mafia." She and her eldest son (my dad) were good friends with Humphrey and his young protégé, Fritz Mondale. I only met Humphrey, but spent more time with Mondale (still going back a while). My contacts in that group today are the next generation (Al Franken, Norm Ornstein).

Ironically, when I first registered to vote in 1971 at age 19, my very first vote was for a Republican. The corrupt party machine in Philadelphia nominated their criminal bully of a police commissioner, Frank Rizzo, as their candidate for mayor. Rizzo used to get his jollies by beating Vietnam War protesters with his billy club. The Republicans nominated a mild.mannered bureaucrat named Thatcher Longstreth. He was a nice enough guy, but knew he was there as a sacrificial lamb, as no Republican was ever going to get elected as Mayor of Philadelphia. I didn't care. Newly minted Democrat or not, I was not going to vote for some sadistic cop who was living five or ten times larger than his salary could ever justify. So, for the first--and only--time in my voting career, I voted Republican. I would do it again in a heartbeat. That was back in 1971, and my candidate lost. Although I never voted Republican again, I sadly had to get used to my candidate losing. It has happened a lot since then

I voted for the first time in 1972, but I was already 21 by then. Nixon dropped the voting age to 18 but it didn't affect me. And I agree with you about Mayor Rizzo, I wouldn't have voted for him either.

I love Al Franken, and I wish he'd come back politics. But I guess he's done with it now.

A previous post:
"I did volunteer (unable to vote yet in '69, '70) for 2 Republicans BUT these were genuine (a vanished breed) Liberal NYC/S politicians. Mayor John V Lindsey, Rep Charles Goodell (his son is famous in sports)."

This was bc the 2 Dems in these instances the Dems were too conservative on social issues.
NYS also only allows D, or R voters in primaries. Turned 18 in 1971; registered real soon afterwards. The 1971 NYS/C ekection has very little going on - I wanted a real consequential one for my first vote. I've never voted for a Republican. Of, course, there was McGovern in '72. 😭

Oh you might appreciate this.
OK reading this years later McG didn't want to higight his service as a bomber pilot in WW2 over Germany. Idk why, it might have helped. Anyway, he (accidently, some kind of error) bombed a German farmer's land (not sure about buildings). Decades later on W German radio the farmer bore no ill will towards him saying ...if somehow that incident helped further Hitler's regine's erosion he was fine centuries it.

Very interesting family history w NYC & Minnesota politics!

Oh yeah I remember Rizzo. Didn't know he beat people as a cop.
Philadelphia is a favorite city of mine.

I remember him. My dad was good friends with him when he was in the Senate. He came over to our house once for an afternoon and stayed for dinner. He was just a great guy (no wonder Nixon and Agnew hated him).

I went to college in Philadelphia. It wasn’t such a great place to live back then!

My sis was in grad school for a year in Philadelphia in Fall '80. So I visited her a few times. Her apt was on a corner where the trolly turned; got used to it. She returned to NYC to finish her degrees.
Then we returned to Philly a few times for fun. Although one it was a mix in a sense because we also attended Buckminster Fuller's World Game event; a serious thing. We visited the Liberty Bell. We loved a great craft store. Went to the Art museum. And I had a rare beer at a bar (don't really like it): Sam Adam's pale summer ale.

I was soooooo ready and excited to vote for her!

If I’d had any doubts, then watching that “debate” where he tried to unsettle her by wandering around onstage and looming menacingly in her direction! SHIT!!! STILL makes me angry enough to spit nails. And she kept her composure throughout, like the pro she was and still is!

She was EVERYTHING we all want to see in a President!
Intelligent.
Brilliant.
Plugged in (ALL the way).
Well-educated.
Experienced in every way imaginable.
Poised.
Confident.
Logical.
Charming.
And still a “people person”!

I STILL firmly believe she would be a truly GREAT President. And she would have kicked that last glass ceiling into ground glass on behalf of, well, AT LEAST HALF THE PLANET!!! And if I could vote for her right now, I’d make damn sure to do so, right this minute (since it’s 6:03pm, Pacific time, as I write this, and polls would still be open til 8pm), DAMMIT!!!

and her beautiful statement on Stephen Colbert.

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of the most hateful influencers from the 2016 campaign. I hate her guts and have hated her guts and will continue to hate her guts, even in my next lifetime. She still is a big mouthed ass who uses her celebrity platform to promote her political agenda, which is whatever she is in the mood for at any given time. Shut up, Susan!!!!