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Botany

(77,895 posts)
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:38 PM 4 hrs ago

Way to go Donny! Is this part of Trump's, "You'll get so sick of winning you will beg me to stop winning?"

David Shuster @DavidShus... • 2h S: According to Al Jazeera, the Iran deals includes unfreezing billions in Iranian funds, lifting U.S. blockade, pulling U.S. forces away, reopening strait of Hormuz though with tolls to Iran, and allowing Iran to keep its enriched uranium. This would be a total U.S. surrender.

nice job, Donald Trump

George Conway ⚖️🇺🇸 (@gtconway.bsky.social) 2026-05-24T00:38:45.202Z


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Way to go Donny! Is this part of Trump's, "You'll get so sick of winning you will beg me to stop winning?" (Original Post) Botany 4 hrs ago OP
"Allowing Iran to keep their enriched uranium" how will he lie about this? spanone 4 hrs ago #1
No way to spin it but it will be fun to see the Trump team and Fox News try to put lipstick on that pig. Botany 4 hrs ago #4
They don't care as long as gas prices go down. dem4decades 3 hrs ago #8
Funny you should mention that.... paleotn 1 hr ago #23
Although not fooled 1 hr ago #25
Can't. It's a matter of supply. paleotn 46 min ago #34
The price of oil will be higher just because of the fee that Iran will now charge on all shipping that goes ... Botany 1 hr ago #30
Iran can make that argument if they want, but leaving the middle east should be more than the US can accept Renew Deal 2 hrs ago #17
When Donnie is holding few, if any cards, he doesn't get to press that point. paleotn 1 hr ago #24
I think that H2O Man 47 min ago #33
Always a LOSER vapor2 4 hrs ago #2
But he promised us he will always be winning Botany 4 hrs ago #3
Kick dalton99a 4 hrs ago #5
And Colbert just crushed it on the Monroe, Michigan public access tv. Botany 3 hrs ago #7
so funny barbtries 1 hr ago #22
You Misunderstood ProfessorGAC 4 hrs ago #6
Wow, donny dipshit did it again. He is such a LOSER. Figarosmom 3 hrs ago #9
I don't care how much the proposed agreement hurts or helps Trump. I don't care how many people dislike the agreement, Fil1957 3 hrs ago #10
His plan: Divert attention to Cuba with an invasion while he surrenders rurallib 3 hrs ago #11
Fine with me, just get the damn strait open ASAP! Fil1957 3 hrs ago #12
Will he give Obama credit for the same plan he tore up? multigraincracker 2 hrs ago #13
Leaving the middle east was never part of the JCPOA (Obama agreement) Renew Deal 2 hrs ago #15
This is a significantly worse deal than Obama's Wiz Imp 2 hrs ago #16
Obama's peace plan with Iran was good and acceptable to all parties, but Chump HAD to tear it up FakeNoose 2 hrs ago #19
He just can't stand out favorite Irish President. multigraincracker 2 hrs ago #20
This one is worse. Way worse. paleotn 1 hr ago #31
Removing naval forces should not be part of the deal Renew Deal 2 hrs ago #14
What leverage does the US have? SamuelTheThird 1 hr ago #26
Just say no Renew Deal 1 hr ago #29
Good luck with that. paleotn 55 min ago #32
WE WON !!!!!!!!!!!! twodogsbarking 2 hrs ago #18
For a touch of irony BaronChocula 2 hrs ago #21
Exactly! The signing was a who's who of the Pacific War. paleotn 42 min ago #35
A Fool's Errand.... C_U_L8R 1 hr ago #27
A plane full of money. RandySF 1 hr ago #28
That's what it took in Iraq to end the insurgency.... paleotn 36 min ago #36

spanone

(142,085 posts)
1. "Allowing Iran to keep their enriched uranium" how will he lie about this?
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:44 PM
4 hrs ago

He got nothing.

Botany

(77,895 posts)
4. No way to spin it but it will be fun to see the Trump team and Fox News try to put lipstick on that pig.
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:03 PM
4 hrs ago

From 1 month ago. Iran called Trump a loser to his face.

The Iranian Position: Tehran consistently pushed back against unilateral American demands, using the exact phrase that the losing side cannot set conditions. Iranian officials asserted that because the United States failed to achieve regime change or dismantle Iran's military and nuclear capabilities, any talks must be strictly between equals.

paleotn

(22,782 posts)
23. Funny you should mention that....
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:34 PM
1 hr ago

They're not going down for months, perhaps a year. Getting oil and nat gas output anywhere near normal isn't as easy as opening the strait. It will take months to get the logistics sorted out (tankers and LNG carriers all in the wrong places - remember the covid impact on highly choreographed logistics.) Then there's getting crude and nat gas production back online which is a technically delicate process. Then there's repairing all the crude / nat gas infrastructure damage.

Next on CNN sometime in September, why the strait is open but gas prices are stubbornly high.

not fooled

(6,772 posts)
25. Although
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:37 PM
1 hr ago

the oil industry benefits so much from having pukes retain control of Congress that they might play ball with krasnov and lower prices before the election. I have no idea whether this will happen but wouldn't surprise me.

paleotn

(22,782 posts)
34. Can't. It's a matter of supply.
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:27 PM
46 min ago

There's not enough global supply to take up all the slack lost from the Gulf even if Russia and US frack country cranked up to the max. Otherwise, the Gulf states wouldn't have nearly as much clout as they do. The only thing that will lower gas prices in the interim is demand destruction worldwide. That means a nasty recession for nearly everyone.

Botany

(77,895 posts)
30. The price of oil will be higher just because of the fee that Iran will now charge on all shipping that goes ...
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:00 PM
1 hr ago

through the Strait of Hormuz.

Renew Deal

(85,390 posts)
17. Iran can make that argument if they want, but leaving the middle east should be more than the US can accept
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:34 PM
2 hrs ago

And if the US/Trump thinks that we should reduce global military presence, that is their opinion, but you don't do it as part of this negotiation. Do it in 1-2 years.

paleotn

(22,782 posts)
24. When Donnie is holding few, if any cards, he doesn't get to press that point.
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:36 PM
1 hr ago

He'll be lucky to get Iran to agree on anything because they don't have to.

H2O Man

(79,282 posts)
33. I think that
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:26 PM
47 min ago

the felon will claim that "on going negotiations" that will be scheduled for the next sixty days is part of his "big, beautiful win." And of course that 60 days will be extended, again and again, until the public forgets about it. Keep in mind that it took the talented, capable diplomat John Kerry an extended period of negotiations to get the deal under President Obama. This administration has a couple of ass clowns representing them, and Netanyahu has Jared representing Israel. There is literally no way they can forge a deal nearly as good as Kerry got.

barbtries

(31,358 posts)
22. so funny
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:32 PM
1 hr ago

i literally laughed til i cried.i think this Colbert dude has a bright future!

ProfessorGAC

(77,322 posts)
6. You Misunderstood
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:09 PM
4 hrs ago

You heard "winning". What he said was "whining"?
And he was right.
I'm plenty sick of all the whining!

Fil1957

(892 posts)
10. I don't care how much the proposed agreement hurts or helps Trump. I don't care how many people dislike the agreement,
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:06 PM
3 hrs ago

just sign the thing and get the damn strait open as soon as possible. Already, people around the world are suffering because of its closure, and that suffering is going to get much worse (including mass starvation) the longer Hormuz stays closed.

The trouble is, we still don't know how serious this "agreement" is. He could sign it, escalate or do nothing. All are equally possible right now.

rurallib

(64,844 posts)
11. His plan: Divert attention to Cuba with an invasion while he surrenders
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:06 PM
3 hrs ago

and has CBS and FOX proclaim a great victory by the greatest Prez ever!

Renew Deal

(85,390 posts)
15. Leaving the middle east was never part of the JCPOA (Obama agreement)
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:31 PM
2 hrs ago

This would go way beyond that.

FakeNoose

(42,485 posts)
19. Obama's peace plan with Iran was good and acceptable to all parties, but Chump HAD to tear it up
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:45 PM
2 hrs ago

Why? Because he's an asshole, that's why.

Now this new one, if it even holds, is nowhere near as good as Obama's. There's no guarantee that Chump will even honor it, and if he does, Iran might still reneg on it if they think nobody is looking.



Renew Deal

(85,390 posts)
14. Removing naval forces should not be part of the deal
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:30 PM
2 hrs ago

That would be a huge win for Iran. The only way you commit to that is Iran giving up long range missiles, which I can't imagine they would accept.

SamuelTheThird

(1,266 posts)
26. What leverage does the US have?
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:42 PM
1 hr ago

Carpet bombing or an invasion = Iran destroys the Gulf's oil and water infrastructure

What can the US do?

Nada

paleotn

(22,782 posts)
32. Good luck with that.
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:18 PM
55 min ago

The great risk of starting this thing in the first place is we have no leverage unless a number of improbable things happened as a result. The primary one being regime collapse. That didn't happen. It was a long shot to begin with. So now we have no options. Not even paper ones since we've been shown to be a paper tiger for all the world to see. No options short of a full US military mobilization which is politically and economically suicidal. And Gulf fossil infrastructure would catch even more damage, perhaps irreparable, and we may still not win it.

There's a very good reason no US admin since Reagan attacked Iran militarily no matter what Iran was up to. It's a trap. Geographically and economically. Donnie was stupid enough to go there. Now, we have no viable options other than take the best bad deal we can get and hope for the best.

Sometimes shooting is the worst possible option you can take. The blowback can be immense and last for generations. We're now living exactly that.

twodogsbarking

(19,406 posts)
18. WE WON !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:42 PM
2 hrs ago

Help, I am rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off and I can''t get up.

paleotn

(22,782 posts)
35. Exactly! The signing was a who's who of the Pacific War.
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:31 PM
42 min ago

Our John McCain's grandfather.

paleotn

(22,782 posts)
36. That's what it took in Iraq to end the insurgency....
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:37 PM
36 min ago

"The Surge" was a cover for just buying off the Sunni sheiks and having them turn on the insurgents. Way cheaper in treasure and blood. Turned out, Petraeus had the best plan for getting us out of THAT mess. We could have done the same with the Taliban and avoided 20 years of fruitless war. They weren't unreasonable. It was only a matter of zeros. As it turned out, Bin Laden was the most expensive wanted man in human history.

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