All bigotry is bad.

Well said.

Apparently just yelled anonymously from the crowd? No indication as to the identity of the convention goer, and likely provocateur?
Details (should) be important.

I’ve read social media attacks on her husband just because he’s Jewish.

I expect bona fide confirmation of details irrespective of the source. You know, the who, what, when and where of old school reporting. That was the norm for a time. But with so many pols trying to score points, I'll admit that I've become more cynical of late.

Shockingly her husband didn't leave their 5 year old to chase down someone for a slur to get the who what when. And generally reporting doesn't include the specific slur because we don't need to repeat them. Does it matter if he called the guy a shylock or a dog or some other slur?

Re: your statement, "...generally reporting doesn't include the specific slur..." I don't know about that. In any case, it should, because news outlets
shouldn't be afraid of reporting slurs as it gives them more power and mystery than they should have. I ask again, outside of McMorrow and hubby where is independent confirmation? If there is independent confirmation, then I'll say "OK then." If there is none, I'll ask "Why not?" Already right wing media outlets are jumping on this story.

From another source she is quoted: “I was not there,” she said. “It was just my husband and my daughter, and someone screamed an antisemitic slur in his face — in front of our five-year-old.”

https://newtoncountynews.net/mallory-mcmorrow-reveals-shocking-antisemitic-incident-involving-husband-and-child-at-detroit-event/

By her own admission she didn't hear it or witness it. I do know some people in our party are shitting themselves over El-Sayed's candidacy.

She says someone "screamed." Not normal speech - screaming. Did no one else present hear this?

Given the foregoing, is a plant at least possible or even likely?

I would argue yes.

I'm not alleging that McMorrow or hubby orchestrated this - but frankly, this doesn't smell right.

Keep the story straight.

antisemitism exists in the Left. And it can be ugly, sometimes at Elders of Zion level.

I'm seeing plenty of it and I'm not even Jewish.

Stop splitting hairs. Is it so difficult to say "What that person did was wrong" and move on?

Instead you're having a mini meltdown screeching "prove it!!!" when we all know that some Democrats say hateful things to Jews.

There are however far far more in the Republican party. I'm not splitting hairs. I'm asking a legitimate question. If someone screamed this in McMorrow's husband's face - who else saw this? The stakes in this race are high. Some posters in this thread seem incensed that I have the temerity to ask for independent confirmation of this account. I regret to inform everyone in this thread and the larger DU membership that I do not give anyone a free pass for any reason (whatever ethnic or religious group they happen to belong to - black, white, Hispanic, Jewish, non-Jewish, Asian) when incendiary allegations like this are made public. Whatever trust or credibility I might have lent in the past has been sorely abused and I am no longer willing to just react like Pavlov's dog because that's a script others want me to follow.

Exactly.

antisemites w a good excuse to vent.
this is gonna bite us in the ass. hard.

Jewish people are a tiny minority worldwide.

it’s heading no where good, at high speed. that the “resistance” narrative sprung up on oct 8, before israel had fired a shot, ought to give ppl pause. there was less than 24 hrs of horror at what happened that day.
this is being orchestrated by some very bad ppl, and no 1 seems to see their hands in it.

imho, oct 7 was the 1st part of a plot to take down biden/harris and no 1 else seems to see it. the protests smelled funny to me in real time. orchestrated.
and we’re all so afraid of being called islamophobic that we dont dare call out radical islamists who r far worse for the world than little israel cd ever b. and far more pervasive in the us and the uk.

It was a highly coordinated, well planned propaganda campaign with the obvious goal of installing Trump back in the White House. That strongly suggests that the October 7 attack itself was part of the strategy.

Who did it? The people who have the most to gain from Trump in the WH and have the money and access to social networks. Musk, Thiel, Putin, etc.

they’re playing the long game.

Universities will look elsewhere for funding. That's terrible because we'll lose control of our country's research. Corporations, other countries, and assorted bad actors are circling.

Immediately ran to social media to blame Israel with the usual Jews Control Everything narrative. Sorry, did I say Jews? I meant to say Zionists so people don't think I'm talking about Jews. Zionists control everything!

Nevermind the Home Secretary behind that denial is a Muslim woman who is vigorously pro-Palestine.

Anyway, it's kind of amusing.

Some Democratic candidates have recently had this guy come rally for them, including McMorrow's opponent Abdul El-Sayed.

Tired of pretending the obvious is not obvious.

It’s exhausting .

"Nevermind the Home Secretary behind that denial is a Muslim woman who is vigorously pro-Palestine.:

She would not be Home Secretary if she were "vigorously" pro-Palestine.

Her views seem to have "evolved" in the last few years.

He openly supports Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.

Openly. Enthusiastically. On video.

If DU turns into a place where people start making excuses for this element, it's cooked.

That is still allowed, I believe.

Not sure which of the 3 guys you are referring to, it surely would not be the Democratic candidate so I assume it's one of the other two.

I don't watch or read Uygur or Piker but I have heard those accusations, now my interest is piqued and I'm going to find out for myself.

Depending on one's point of view.

But that obfuscates from the point - that Piker is claiming Israel is dictating to the U.K. that they ban him.

Does this politician strike you as someone taking orders from Israel?

That's Piker's view. Is it yours?

... is considered a Far Left position - depending on one's point of view. Personally I think it's merely a universal pro-human rights view. That we have been essentially debating that for over 2 years is astonishing to me.

I don't think it's an obfuscation to push back on an argument if it's based on a false premise but ymmv.

You understand that no politician or even cabinet member exists in a vacuum. The Home Secretary is carrying out the policies of her party and government. If you don't know about the U.K.s extremely pro-Israel position for decades and especially as we saw during the Gaza genocide - regardless of who is in power - then you have not been paying attention.

Whether you believe that translates to "taking orders from Israel" or the right thing to do depends on which "side" you are on. Sad that we have to take sides about whether Palestinians deserve to live or not.

But let's take a different tack.

Do you believe Piker was denied solely due to his anti-Israel rhetoric, or do you think his open, on the record support of proscribed groups such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis played a role?

Do you believe open support of those groups should warrant sanction?

My opinion is that we do not hate israel, judaism, the middle east, or islam.

Netanyahu, on the other hand could disappear tomorrow. Iran's entrenched leadership could also go away.

But I have lived and worked in east dearborn, where the arab population is dominant. The hatred of Jews is astonishing.

Support for the arabic community means we're going to get some haters, along with them. It's hard to stop each and every one that might be hate afflicted.

When we hear that kind of hatred expressed from an anonymous individual from a large group. A large group should nearly in unison.Let them know. Let's be ready.

As seen in this thread.

People get comfortable with contradictions when they're ok with both.

You state that you've lived and worked in east Dearborn, MI where the Arab population is dominant and you report "The hatred of Jews is astonishing."

I'm inclined to believe you, anonymous poster on the internet, because a lot of people in Dearborn have made no secret of their hatred of Jews. This is where the group that bragged they'd hand the election to Trump lives. "We want you to know it was us." I believed them, too.

Yet, I see most Democrats heatedly denying that any Democrat could ever feel that way. Meanwhile, many of those deniers keep saying things that sound like hatred of Jews to me.

I think it's pretty deeply embedded now. A fair number of Democrats are fine with hatred of Jews. They either openly proclaim it or bluster and deny but shrug when they see it and sooner or later they'll say something like "Well, isn't it true that Jews have a lot of power.."

Or they'll just screech "AIPAC!!"

and I’ve seen it online. I’m sick of it and the excuses.

Her husband has been the target of antisemitism.

When it comes to antisemitism, it has to excused, qualified or brushed aside.

Some random person says something ugly in the street and the candidate who is losing badly to someone who has been more critical of Israeli aggression and unconditional support for Netanyahu uses that to suggest that opposition to Israel is veering into anti-Semitism at a debate. Please.

How dare anybody suggest that "opposition to Israel is veering into anti-Semitism..."

Are you fucking serious?

To complete the obvious implication of her statement.

Re-read her quote and then tell me which Democrat, elected or otherwise running for office is doing this.

She didn't specify anyone but it's clear she's talking about at least one of her opponents.

Since he's likely to win the primary do you really want to dredge up antisemitic things he's said?

Unless you think antisemitism is so pervasive in the Democratic Party that his statements will be a winning formula?

Fetch my smelling salts.

Do you seriously think her opponent isn't playing politics with his statements, actions, and by tying himself to Piker?

I looked it up because you mentioned likely winner, but I didn't realize Michigan held theirs so crazily late.

The polls are fairly close and volatile, although they haven't really done a lot since they're still so far out. A lot can happen in two months.

Shut up! 🤣

Welp. Time to die.

of one individual.

How dare anybody suggest that the Democratic Party has a problem?

Ok, I will. I'm damning the Democratic Party for a whole bunch of shit being done by way more than just one individual. Notably, I think the Democratic Party is turning hard into antisemitism.

I think a tiny minority of people are being scapegoated for a lot of problems created by the majority culture. As has happened before, Jews are being blamed for economic inequalities, the white majority's perceived loss of status, "globalization," and just a general accusation that they're mean and sneaky.

It's everywhere. Open your eyes. "AIPAC!!!!!"

At a debate he asked for a show of hands of those that have not taken any money from BC/BS and he was the only one that had his hand up. He is the only one to not take one cent from PACs and other big money sources. He is for Single Payer health insurance for everyone.

It's impossible to run a political campaign today without millions of dollars. If he's not taking it from the usual PACs, whose money is he taking?

Since he looks likely to win the nomination I hope he wins the GE. I have deep family ties to Michigan.

What’s acceptable is criticism of Netanyahu and the right wing in Israel - many in Israel don’t support them just like many Americans don’t support Dump.

Antisemitism than "criticizm of Israel."

Most governments of the world are terrible, only one seems to catch this level of ire.

While the U.S. is attacking countries, murdering fishermen in the Caribbean, bombing schools, starving people, supporting right wing dictators across the globe - somehow it's Israel that is behind all of this.

Shit. Maybe it's us. Maybe we did this when we elected Trump.

It's like blaming Democrats for Trump's behavior.

Some highly educated people are racist, some are sexist, some hate gays, and some hate Jews.

for their jew hate.

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It was a televised debate.

when it happened

Waiting to drop this when her poll numbers are tanking isn't a great look

as did delegates and nobody and nobody even blinked.

She's not charging anybody with a crime. She's pointing out the pervasive amount of antisemitism even in Democratic spaces.

That's not a "reveal." That's an observation. She cited one example that her husband experienced.

If you look at social media outside the DU bubble...

She's getting dinged for revealing an older incident, with cynical suggestions it's because her poll numbers are tanking.

Sigh. I only said I wished she'd brought it up earlier when her numbers would good.

You're not wrong, I just think some voters would be shocked and surprised. So there's no reason not to make the observation as soon as it happens.

1. It's exhausting to bring it up every time somebody yells a slur. Most of the time minorities just ignore it, as we were taught ("ignore the bullies; when they go low you go high; reacting only gives them the attention they're seeking" - all the ways our society rewards bullies and sneaks.)

2. When we do bring it up we are questioned. "What were you wearing? Why were you there? What were you doing? Why are you supporting Israel anyway? Don't you care? Aren't dead babies more important than your feelings? Good. Maybe your five year old understands now what it's like to be a child in Palestine except your five year old is still alive why are you whining?" And so forth and so on.

3. If brought up later: "Why are bringing it up now? Sore loser. Don't blame other people for what Israel is doing. All you had to do was denounce Israel." And so forth.

The underlying message is always "You Jews are always complaining."

If this makes you even slightly uncomfortable sit with it a while.

Your insights are excellent and shouldn't make anyone uncomfortable.

And all the more valuable given that you probably don't have advisors and staff, and experience with the general public giving you feedback.

As a 66 year old woman I do have that experience. 🤣

As a 66 year old woman I do have that experience. 🤣