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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have seen "Elders of Zion" levels of antisemitism from the left
And it is ugly. "Jews rule to world" crap about Israel and it's lobbyist being behind every bad thing that goes on. Every criticism of a Liberal Party in any country is because a Jewish group was behind it.
This is from the Left.
Not here, but in other Social Media.
mucifer
(25,742 posts)Yes, AIPAC does a lot of damage and needs to be called out IMO. But, we are NOT all AIPAC.
AIPAC did there best to take out Daniel Biss a Jewish candidate with an Israeli mother and the grandson of Holocaust survivors. Daniel Biss does not want a blank check to Israel's military. AIPAC spent 7 million dollars trying to defeat Biss. He won. He will be in the House. A republican cannot win in his district.
marybourg
(13,662 posts)To lobby for Israel. It has done that job extremely well over the years. if you think its a horrible organization then youre saying that lobbying for Israel is a horrible thing.
Arent you really saying that Israel is a horrible country? Didnt you only start saying this after Israel was brought to its knees by the Hamas attack, and had to fight for its very existence? How many attacks like the Hamas attack could a tiny country like Israel survive.?
How much pro Palestinian lobbying have you been hearing? I know its a lot because its been right here on DU for quite some time And being swayed by? Are the pro Palestinian lobbying institutions horrible also?
But are they controlling the Democratic party?
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mopinko
(74,060 posts)they support a lot of dems that many here on du wd like to see defeated. but compared to the plainly evil oligarchs who flat out want to buy this country, theyre such small potatoes.
anyone who rants about them gets a heavy side eye from me.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,283 posts)themselves of it.
murielm99
(33,106 posts)hlthe2b
(114,842 posts)There is a correlation between its dramatic uptick and Netanyahu's devastating policies. That is merely demonstrable fact. One cannot appropriately and righteously denounce the former without acknowledging what is giving a perception of "license" and very misdirected "justification" for this behavior.
For those who do not make a distinction between the policies horrifically impacting Gazan, Lebanese and other nonviolent citizens--as well as Israelis themselves, and the role of Netanyahu in manipulating Trump into this devastating self-destructive war with Iran-- and the absolutely unacceptable antisemitism being advanced as a response, well there can be nothing but denunciation. But one cannot ignore the former while condemning the latter either and likewise escape condemnation in my honest opinion.
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mcar
(46,429 posts)had support from one specific PAC while ignoring all the other "dark money" out there. Janet Mills was criticized right here on DU for taking AIPAC money - even though, IIRC, she didn't.
The Wizard
(13,898 posts)are bots or trolls designed to mislead or waste your time. Remember how Russian troll farms influenced the 2016 election.
edhopper
(37,549 posts)where the poster is a real person with many posts on different subjects.
And I have heard people say the same thing.
appmanga
(1,540 posts)...it's alright to name-and-shame here. I'd say it's a duty after saying this.
edhopper
(37,549 posts)but I don't have any specific instances here.
LexVegas
(6,964 posts)mopinko
(74,060 posts)they just make sure to word it in the acceptable costumes of the day. aipac gaza netanyahu
never a word about what israel is up against, and has been since b4 1948. no indication that they know a wit of history.
Chautauquas
(4,495 posts)but the other side is that the a lot of Israel supporters remain silent when there's reports of the horrors Israel is committing in Gaza or when Israeli "settlers" launch murderous attacks and outright steal territory.
PCIntern
(28,642 posts)I will repeat what my father told me when I was 12 years old that the hardest part about being a liberal progressive will be dealing with the antisemitism coming from the left. That was in 1965. The first meal experience I had with that particular brand of antisemitism was when Israel defeated the Arab armies in 1967, and all the lefty publications that came to our house were decrying their victory, and bemoaning the loss of Pan-Arabism.
The second thing is that all these terrorist groups (a.k.a. Freedom-fighters)promising to eradicate Israel, and the Jews therein, have quite possibly learned the meaning of that word and its implications. Its horrifying , as were the crimes perpetrated on that fateful day by at the Festival and Kibbutz. For many years Israel was forced to liberate hundreds of prisoners in order to recover one or two Israelis held captive or even to reclaim their corpses. So if thats the proportionality in one direction, the terrorists quite possibly learned it holds in the other. Not nice, but war is not nice. Perhaps they will think twice before another act is contemplated and executed.