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Owner of California house covered in Trump signs is stomped to death (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd 1 hr ago OP
While I Can't Condone The Attack... ProfessorGAC 1 hr ago #1
This is disgraceful. He may have been looking for an argument, but curb-stomping is not debate. Climate Crusader 1 hr ago #3
Were You Expecting A Debate? ProfessorGAC 1 hr ago #6
Murder is not the answer. Why let a MAGA trigger such anger? wnylib 1 hr ago #4
I Didn't Say It Was ProfessorGAC 1 hr ago #5
Soryy, I did not intend to say or imply that wnylib 1 hr ago #7
Then We Agree ProfessorGAC 1 hr ago #13
I have sympathy for his family, that's it MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #9
One wonders why the beating occurred- was it political or self defense biophile 1 hr ago #2
It could just be a "Get off my lawn" gone wrong. haele 1 hr ago #8
It doesn't matter if it was political sarisataka 1 hr ago #12
Background from an non-faux source justaprogressive 1 hr ago #10
The California Post is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in Los Angeles, California. Celerity 36 min ago #20
This is wrong, unacceptable and intolerable. sarisataka 1 hr ago #11
There's no evidence the Trump signs were the cause of the attack. The assailant was a veteran with PTSD highplainsdem 1 hr ago #14
The killer was another wingnut obamanut2012 1 hr ago #15
He 'Past' Away DET 52 min ago #16
Message auto-removed Name removed 46 min ago #17
LG Emile 36 min ago #19
Fifth time today. Why am I riffing on Dan hicks & His Hot Licks? Brother Buzz 28 min ago #22
LOL, likes being spanked. Emile 26 min ago #23
Violence is never the answer. n/t flvegan 36 min ago #18
Maga on maga violence Boo1 32 min ago #21

ProfessorGAC

(77,405 posts)
1. While I Can't Condone The Attack...
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:29 PM
1 hr ago

...I can't find much sympathy either.
I don't believe his neighbor about the victim's willingness to let other have their opinions.
The displays were ostentatious & provocative and the guy was looking for an argument in a grand fashion. Keep shoving his opinion in others' face and he was bound to get his argument.
Unfortunately, he found an argument with a crazy and it got him killed.
I guess I sympathize with the wife. She certainly didn't deserve widowhood like this.
But, I honestly don't care about the guy, undeserved death notwithstanding.

Climate Crusader

(173 posts)
3. This is disgraceful. He may have been looking for an argument, but curb-stomping is not debate.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:33 PM
1 hr ago

Absolutely no room for this crap in the US that I hope Democrats are working to shape.

ProfessorGAC

(77,405 posts)
6. Were You Expecting A Debate?
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:39 PM
1 hr ago

I said the killer was crazy to have acted like this.
I never said I approved.
In fact my post title says the exact opposite.

ProfessorGAC

(77,405 posts)
5. I Didn't Say It Was
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:38 PM
1 hr ago

I think the attacker is out of his mind & a murderer.
Have no idea how you got that I promote violence.
I just don't care about this particular guy.

wnylib

(26,591 posts)
7. Soryy, I did not intend to say or imply that
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:42 PM
1 hr ago

you condoned the murder. I was only expressing how I feel about it.

ProfessorGAC

(77,405 posts)
13. Then We Agree
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:02 PM
1 hr ago

Of course, there is the assumption that the attack was politically motivated.
It may not have been but the attacker still killed a guy in a fight, including aggravating circumstances.
One can't head stomp someone unless they are already down & defenseless.
The attacker is in big, big trouble.

biophile

(1,605 posts)
2. One wonders why the beating occurred- was it political or self defense
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:33 PM
1 hr ago

I don’t condone political violence- (even though I have been very tempted to do it myself, my better angels have prevented action, so far) - but we don’t know for sure from this if the victim was attacked for his Drumpf support or some other reason or if he started the fight. This was Fux News so you can assume half of the story is missing and the other half misleading.

haele

(15,641 posts)
8. It could just be a "Get off my lawn" gone wrong.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:45 PM
1 hr ago

A guy like that doesn't know how to back down, and if he got in the face of someone who had made an offhand negative comment or he thought "didn't belong" and that person was already pissed or had an aggressive response reaction, a fight would not be unlikely.

Curb-stomping is not an unheard of reaction by bullies or gang members who grew up like Kegsbreath or the Proud Boys - where beating the crap out of anyone who offended you is the mark or a privilege of "virile Manhood".

On edit, it's not that I'm making an excuse, but this isn't the first time this sort of crime has occured.
The only reason this is making the news is because the guy was a local controversial personality.
When a drunk uncle decides to do a beat down on an uppity YA nephew who "disrespected" him at a block party and curb stomped the young man into the hospital in a coma with a severe concussion, cracked shoulders and upper back spine damage, it doesn't make the news.

sarisataka

(22,874 posts)
12. It doesn't matter if it was political
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:00 PM
1 hr ago

And if he was stomped on the head it was not self-defense.

It was murder, regardless of the reporting source.

Celerity

(55,072 posts)
20. The California Post is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in Los Angeles, California.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:41 PM
36 min ago

It serves as the California counterpart to the New York Post, and is owned by News Corp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Post

News Corporation, referred to as "News Corp," was started in 1980 in Australia. It was founded by Rupert Murdoch, who led the company in its publishing, in both news and books, as well as television. These were all published in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia, allowing the new and growing company to gain popularity worldwide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corp

sarisataka

(22,874 posts)
11. This is wrong, unacceptable and intolerable.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:57 PM
1 hr ago

That's it.
No excuses, politics or qualifications.

Murder cannot be justified.

highplainsdem

(63,320 posts)
14. There's no evidence the Trump signs were the cause of the attack. The assailant was a veteran with PTSD
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:07 PM
1 hr ago

who was most recently registered to vote as a Republican.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2026/05/28/prior-allegations-of-violence-ptsd-cited-in-court-docs-against-suspect-in-trump-house-assault/

A 32-year-old man accused of assaulting the owner of the “Trump House” in Escondido was described in court documents as a veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder with a history of violent, threatening behavior, according to a petition filed by his estranged wife last year in San Diego Superior Court.

-snip-

According to documents filed in family court last year, Butler’s wife said that Butler had been the subject of multiple domestic violence calls, welfare checks by police and various mental health cases between February 2020 and February 2025. Those alleged incidents do not appear to have resulted in any criminal charges in San Diego County, according to a search of court records.

According to military records reviewed by the Union-Tribune, Butler left the Navy as a surface warfare specialist — with multiple achievement and good conduct medals — in 2023 after serving 12 years. In September 2020, Butler and his wife purchased a home on Magnolia Avenue, a few blocks from Sheron’s house, according to property records.

Butler registered as a Republican in April 2025 and voted in the Republican primary in 2024, according to county voter registration records. In the 2020 presidential primary, he voted as no party preference.

-snip-

DET

(2,620 posts)
16. He 'Past' Away
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:24 PM
52 min ago

Not the brightest bulbs in that neighborhood. The attack was probably unjustified, but people are getting pushed to their limit and have had it with ignorant obnoxious MAGAts. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later.

Response to DET (Reply #16)

Boo1

(507 posts)
21. Maga on maga violence
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:44 PM
32 min ago

I have a limited bandwidth of give a fucks and one maga loon stomping out another maga loon doesn't pass the bar.

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