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MIButterfly

(3,243 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:04 PM 13 hrs ago

I have been reading different articles with Dr. Jill Biden's comments about President Biden online

She said he will live with cancer the rest of his life. I hope and pray with all my heart that he outlives DJT because I know DJT will be his usual crass, ugly self if President Biden predeceases him and will say nothing but nasty vile things about him and I don't think I could take it. President Biden is such a decent, kind, warm, caring human being, all the things that DJT is not, and I don't want his memory and legacy to be desecrated by the likes of that cretin in the White House who doesn't have a decent bone in his entire body.

I truly believe that President Biden had the interests of our country and its people at heart and did his absolute best for all of us, including people who didn't vote for him. Not like DJT who doesn't do anything for anybody except himself and expects to be worshiped every single second of the day and rails against anybody who disagrees with him and tries to waste our money on his stupid vanity projects.

How wonderful it was to have an actual adult for president and not a whiny little bitch. More than anything else in the world, I want another adult for president. An intelligent, knowledgeable, capable, level-headed, sane adult PLEASE! I don't think that's too much to ask.

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I have been reading different articles with Dr. Jill Biden's comments about President Biden online (Original Post) MIButterfly 13 hrs ago OP
Her interview on Morning Joe this morning was very good Raven123 12 hrs ago #1
"When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldn't talk about him" MIButterfly 12 hrs ago #2
You mean the lingerie model? Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #16
That's a nice way of putting it, but yes, that one MIButterfly 10 hrs ago #18
I wish Biden well but... tman 12 hrs ago #3
Why? obamanut2012 12 hrs ago #4
The international travel was 12 days before the debate EdmondDantes_ 11 hrs ago #5
Decline and normal aging are two very different things crimycarny 4 hrs ago #29
No, I don't think he was. tman 11 hrs ago #9
I recall Obama's first debate with Romney. 70sEraVet 6 hrs ago #20
Oh yes, I remember that Obama/Romney debate PatSeg 5 hrs ago #22
the 'mental fog' and 'diminished figure' has been SO obviously oversold .... - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 11 hrs ago #10
Yup. So you're sitting offstage and suddenly you think your husband is having a stroke. So you just continue to sit 3Hotdogs 6 hrs ago #21
disagree (no matter how many times it is repeated) stopdiggin 11 hrs ago #7
And the camera man didn't help. Let me tell you... Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #17
I couldn't agree more MustLoveBeagles 9 hrs ago #19
I agree PatSeg 5 hrs ago #23
"But - if he had just bowed out sooner ... " Bullcrap !! . . - - - - - - - - - - (nt)- stopdiggin 4 hrs ago #26
Agree 100% crimycarny 3 hrs ago #32
I remember that a number of people understood why Biden would run again... CBHagman 2 hrs ago #33
She is saying he would have won if he had stayed in MichMan 11 hrs ago #8
I sitll think it's possible! LymphocyteLover 11 hrs ago #11
Joe Biden very possibly had a better shot than Kamala stopdiggin 10 hrs ago #13
Even a Biden at half-speed was still infinitely superior than Trump, as was Kamala. Tommy Carcetti 5 hrs ago #24
He said in 2'0 he'd probably be a 1 term president. We SHOULD have had a primary. Callie1979 5 hrs ago #25
When he won the 2020 primaries, i knew we were in trouble in 2024. dem4decades 4 hrs ago #30
Joe delayed retirement to save us from Trump. Glad he stepped up.. Politics is ugly. Hindsight is easy. twodogsbarking 11 hrs ago #6
- Lemon Lyman 10 hrs ago #12
Thank you for a nice post! BidenRocks 10 hrs ago #14
I Second That! Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #15
"But - if he had just bowed out sooner ... " Bullcrap !! . . - - - - - - - - - - (nt)- stopdiggin 4 hrs ago #27
I for the life of me kacekwl 4 hrs ago #28
Trump's performance was disqualifying.... MervinFerd 4 hrs ago #31

Raven123

(7,942 posts)
1. Her interview on Morning Joe this morning was very good
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:51 PM
12 hrs ago

Asked a lot of questions (some of which I thought were inappropriate), and answered gracefully. When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldn’t talk about him. Good for her. Never a fan of Lemire (who asked the questions). Less so now.

MIButterfly

(3,243 posts)
2. "When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldn't talk about him"
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:58 PM
12 hrs ago

Now that is a class act. I admire her for that. Ask me about Trump and you'd get an earful.

Not only do I miss President Biden, I miss having a classy and intelligent first lady too. Don't get me started on the plastic ice queen we have now.

tman

(1,260 posts)
3. I wish Biden well but...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:01 PM
12 hrs ago

His decision to run again, highly encouraged by Jill Biden herself, will be seen for what it was. A massive, historic mistake.

Her claim that Biden's disastrous debate performance was a surprise is... to put in mildly, ridiculous.

obamanut2012

(29,555 posts)
4. Why?
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:06 PM
12 hrs ago

"her claim that Biden's disastrous debate performance was a surprise is... to put in mildly, ridiculous."

He was fine before and after the incident. He's fine now. He was coming off an international trip and Covid.

EdmondDantes_

(2,150 posts)
5. The international travel was 12 days before the debate
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:32 PM
11 hrs ago

And his case of covid was after the debate.

The administration was generally not having Biden doing public events or interviews as president for a reason. There's no shame in decline and I have seen in my own family how hard it is to see and acknowledge it. But that doesn't change the fact he was declining.

crimycarny

(2,103 posts)
29. Decline and normal aging are two very different things
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:58 PM
4 hrs ago

He flew around the world twice in those 12 days before the debate, going to France for a D-Day event, coming back, then going to Italy for the G7 conference! And then back to LA for a fundraiser. If Joe Biden was so incapacitated that his staff was trying to hide him, why the h*ll would they risk his appearances at such high stakes events in such a short amount of time? It’s not like he was vacationing in those 12 days of international travel.

I saw Joe Biden at the G7 summit and D-Day event, and the super high stakes press conference after his bad debate. I challenge someone 1/2 of Joe Biden’s age to do so well under so much pressure.

tman

(1,260 posts)
9. No, I don't think he was.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:46 PM
11 hrs ago

There was pressure on Biden about his fitness to run before the debate, as reflected in his poor approval numbers for an incumbent going into an election and his head to head match-ups against trump.

..so Biden went into the debate (as the known underdog) with one key objective. Kill the narrative that he was 'mentally unfit' for the job. He failed disastrously, and his post debate clean-up interview may have been more damaging than the debate itself.

Up until he decided to run again, Biden could be seen as a good leader who brought the country back from the ruinous trump years. In his final year, he was a poor communicator who could obviously not stand the rigors of a presidential campaign. The debate was a preview of worse things to come, and most objective democratic pollsters believe he would've lost worse than Harris did.

Jake Tapper is a clown and we know media aren't fair, but the gaslighting from the Biden world should never be dismissed.

70sEraVet

(5,675 posts)
20. I recall Obama's first debate with Romney.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 06:25 PM
6 hrs ago

He was TERRIBLE! He made up for it in the next debate. We all have 'off' days. But Biden wasn't just debating trump -- he was debating with the American people to prove that he had it in him to serve another four years. So, in a sense, he lost TWO debates that night. And lost BADLY.
I have no doubt that Joe thought he was up to the job. I can't say what the people around him thought. I would STILL rather have Joe for President than the criminal we have now, even if Jake Tapper and the rest are right about his mental decline.
My ¢2.

PatSeg

(53,713 posts)
22. Oh yes, I remember that Obama/Romney debate
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 07:29 PM
5 hrs ago

It was just awful and so painful to watch.

stopdiggin

(15,701 posts)
10. the 'mental fog' and 'diminished figure' has been SO obviously oversold .... - - - - - - - -(nt)-
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:51 PM
11 hrs ago

3Hotdogs

(15,612 posts)
21. Yup. So you're sitting offstage and suddenly you think your husband is having a stroke. So you just continue to sit
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 06:50 PM
6 hrs ago

there ----- well maybe.

But then, after the debate, you don't tell the staff to get him to Walter Reed to make sure it wasn't a stroke....


Fuck me, but the 'splanation ain't splainin nuthin.

stopdiggin

(15,701 posts)
7. disagree (no matter how many times it is repeated)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:40 PM
11 hrs ago

I have seen Joe Biden in public appearances since the 'disastrous debate' - and I think I (and the nation) could live well (and sleep quite soundly) with the level of acuity on display. Also - not at all convinced (or see sound evidence) that 'another candidate' would have had a better shot of beating Trump. The 'malaise' was baked in, and the electorate was in a 'crappy' mood. As evidenced ... And thirdly - and something that seems to be conveniently passed over or forgotten, by those otherwise accounted politically savvy - is the inherent power of incumbency. Something that no political institution (or player) has ever been happy to lightly p*ss away. Nor should! (have they any sort of political acumen)

The cancer diagnosis is of course another thing ... And, to my knowledge, did not play into ...

But the notion that Joe Biden was a shambling wreck - known to all - during the greater portion of his White House residency ... Belies what many of us saw. And I believe to be a convenient (and opportunistic?) re-write of the actual conditions. And I believe further - that Jill Biden (and many others) were legitimately surprised by the 'debate'.

My two cents. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Joinfortmill

(21,774 posts)
17. And the camera man didn't help. Let me tell you...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:57 PM
10 hrs ago

I'm 77. From the front view, I'm quite presentable. From the side view I look like the Wicked Witch of the East. So, there's that.

PatSeg

(53,713 posts)
23. I agree
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 07:36 PM
5 hrs ago

I hope I live to see Biden get the recognition that he deserves. He accomplished so much during his four years in the White House and all we hear is how frail and incompetent he was. That's certainly not what I witnessed.

Some of the legislation that he got passed with such small majorities was incredible and it was legislation that made a huge difference in the lives of so many people. And of course there was the handling of the pandemic.

stopdiggin

(15,701 posts)
26. "But - if he had just bowed out sooner ... " Bullcrap !! . . - - - - - - - - - - (nt)-
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:14 PM
4 hrs ago

crimycarny

(2,103 posts)
32. Agree 100%
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:18 PM
3 hrs ago

Those 12 days of international travel before the debate weren’t exactly low profile, low pressure state dinners. He went to France for a D-Day ceremony, where he made an amazing speech. Flew back to US, then flew to Italy for the G7 summit, then back to LA for a fundraiser! If Joe was in such “decline” that his staff was trying to keep him out of the public eye, I find those events a very odd way to do so.

Joe Biden had to run under a media microscope with every single misspeak exaggerated way out of proportion (which, by the way, Joe Biden has done since he started as a Senator at 29), and his own party throwing him under the bus.

If the GOP could get a 34-time convicted felon, rapist, and inciter of January 6th elected, what does that say about the Democratic Party who can’t get an incumbent with one of the best legislative records since FDR re-elected?

CBHagman

(17,550 posts)
33. I remember that a number of people understood why Biden would run again...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 10:50 PM
2 hrs ago

...and understood the reasoning behind it. There are so many factors that go into an administration and a presidential race, and here in the United States, we're in reelection season almost from Inauguration Day on.

On top of all that, President Biden came in at a time of crisis and was looking at a number of larger long-standing issues, such as poverty and cancer research.

stopdiggin

(15,701 posts)
13. Joe Biden very possibly had a better shot than Kamala
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:33 PM
10 hrs ago

would it have been enough ... ?
But the notion that Biden had so turned off - - or that 'another candidate' was going to so energize the party ...

Pfffft ! Yeah, right! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Tommy Carcetti

(44,594 posts)
24. Even a Biden at half-speed was still infinitely superior than Trump, as was Kamala.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 07:51 PM
5 hrs ago

There's no one to blame for Trump but the assholes who voted for him, and any idiots who sat 2024 out.

Callie1979

(1,437 posts)
25. He said in 2'0 he'd probably be a 1 term president. We SHOULD have had a primary.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:00 PM
5 hrs ago

He was my pick from day one in 2020's primary
But when he announced to run again I knew we were in trouble.

twodogsbarking

(19,491 posts)
6. Joe delayed retirement to save us from Trump. Glad he stepped up.. Politics is ugly. Hindsight is easy.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:36 PM
11 hrs ago

Lemon Lyman

(1,631 posts)
12. -
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:28 PM
10 hrs ago

I’m disgusted with the interviews of her over the past few days. Rita Braver on “CBS Sunday Morning” was awful to her. Braver spent most of the “interview” asking shitty questions about President Biden & Hunter. She kept doing the “A lot of people think” or “A lot of people have questions.” As has been said, the interviewers have been harder on her (she’s there to talk about her new book, mind you) than they have been in Shirley and all of his corruption.

Some media we have.

BidenRocks

(3,561 posts)
14. Thank you for a nice post!
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:38 PM
10 hrs ago

Since I like Joe I will remind everyone about casting dispersions on him.
Under the rule about not relitigating past elections.
It's over!
I am tired of the negativity! Right Oddball?

kacekwl

(9,274 posts)
28. I for the life of me
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:26 PM
4 hrs ago

don't understand what exactly is the problem people have with President Biden. The I don't like Biden folks who never explain what the issue was. Life was pretty damn good during his presidency his vice presidency. What is it ?

MervinFerd

(2,124 posts)
31. Trump's performance was disqualifying....
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:12 PM
4 hrs ago

Two points:

1. Trump's performance was horrific. In a healthy media and political environment, he should have been rejected. He should never have been treated as a serious candidate after that.

2. A major problem for Biden was that many Democrats simply lost confidence in him. That was an emotional factor that could not be overcome with verbal assurances. His -physical- frailty made it difficult for him to regain trust.

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