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70 year old man tries to drown young man over lake use (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 6 OP
Bet that guy has a history of abuse Woodwizard Jun 6 #1
+1. There should be a civil lawsuit as well dalton99a Jun 6 #3
There will be..between lawyer fees for murder defense and civil lawsuit, man will be liquidating his lake house BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 6 #4
If others hadnt intervened, would he have actually drowned the victim BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 6 #5
Yep that young man wouldn't here today if those two guys hadn't intervened. n/t iluvtennis Jun 6 #9
The 21-year-old was disabled and on crutches dalton99a Jun 6 #2
Though, he was standing on two legs in the video with no crutches in sight. Nonetheless... lostnfound Jun 6 #12
The crutches were plainly visible in the video. I saw them. QueerDuck Jun 6 #13
Yes my son can stand and walk short distances Lifeafter70 Jun 7 #27
Transport Wheelchair user here too... QueerDuck Jun 7 #32
Yes my son is in hospice for cancer Lifeafter70 Jun 7 #33
🫂🦋 QueerDuck Jun 7 #34
Adrenaline can do make you do Smilo Jun 6 #18
The crutches were RIGHT THERE obamanut2012 Jun 6 #24
Sorry, I'm old and my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be lostnfound Jun 7 #25
Old man is real lucky those boys are peaceful people. He could have easily been made real dead at that lake. Intractable Jun 6 #6
Thank you for recognizing that!! Stargazer99 Jun 6 #19
Evil people live malaise Jun 6 #7
He looks like he's built like 72 year old RFK Farmer-Rick Jun 6 #8
No, the shitbag is not built Aviation Pro Jun 6 #16
And his fat ass was hanging out of those shorts. Ritabert Jun 7 #30
I will happily be available for jury selection Deuxcents Jun 6 #10
Should read "Old man FAFO how to lose the rest of Luz Jun 6 #11
He's probably proud of himself. cab67 Jun 6 #14
My guess is that his neighbors hate him mercuryblues Jun 6 #17
Yep if he's that out of control with a stranger imagine what he does with neighbors. Ritabert Jun 7 #31
I am glad that this asshole was arrested LetMyPeopleVote Jun 6 #15
Could have been worse for either of them GreatGazoo Jun 6 #20
The escalation, in the old guy's mind, was them being in that part of the lake. usedtobedemgurl Jun 8 #35
scummy to film the attack and not help. influencer syndrome? msongs Jun 6 #21
In hindsight, it is good they did. CivicGrief Jun 7 #26
scummy to choke and drown a guy. whatabout syndrome? Torchlight Jun 10 #40
Why is it ALWAYS an old dude with a big chip on his shoulder? Conjuay Jun 6 #22
Young dudes dont own lake houses BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 6 #23
Why did it take so long for his friends to johnnyfins Jun 7 #28
I don't know, but it says a lot usedtobedemgurl Jun 8 #36
What a shitbag. Dave Bowman Jun 7 #29
Update: Massachusetts judge releases Hopkinton man accused of attempted murder in beach chaos erronis Jun 9 #37
Also " no more drowning people" BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 10 #39
I'd bet anything this bully was 100% MAGA. oasis Jun 9 #38

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(15,530 posts)
4. There will be..between lawyer fees for murder defense and civil lawsuit, man will be liquidating his lake house
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:09 AM
Jun 6

lostnfound

(17,712 posts)
12. Though, he was standing on two legs in the video with no crutches in sight. Nonetheless...
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 11:23 AM
Jun 6

He may very well have been in pain (from the deadly motorcycle accident he had two months prior), further injured by this jerk who pushed him and tried to drown him
The aftermath of such a serious accident could also be painkillers and/or depression or risky behavior.

QueerDuck

(2,209 posts)
13. The crutches were plainly visible in the video. I saw them.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 11:38 AM
Jun 6

In case others may be confused, it's important to point out that crutches and canes and walkers and rollators aren't used exclusively for being able to stand upright. Zum beispiel, my husband can stand upright without his rollator, he can rise from a seated to a standing position without assistance, he can maintain balance too. But for mobility and traveling on his own power over any distance... and to be done safely, he does need his cane or rollator. Because someone isn't actively propped up with a cane or crutch or rollator doesn't mean they don't need them, and it doesn't mean that they are not challenged with safe mobility.

Lifeafter70

(1,273 posts)
27. Yes my son can stand and walk short distances
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:25 PM
Jun 7

Like to the bathroom. He will uses a cane for longer distances. But needs a wheelchair if he is out for a prolonged time.

Smilo

(2,077 posts)
18. Adrenaline can do make you do
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 12:42 PM
Jun 6

things right then and there, that normally you couldn't do - then comes the crash and the hurt.

Intractable

(2,594 posts)
6. Old man is real lucky those boys are peaceful people. He could have easily been made real dead at that lake.
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:11 AM
Jun 6

The boys showed tremendous restraint.

Aviation Pro

(15,892 posts)
16. No, the shitbag is not built
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 12:34 PM
Jun 6

He is a typical, fat, old motherfucker who just slings his belly weight around.

Nice way to end the golden years of your life, you worthless, useless oxygen thief.

Luz

(949 posts)
11. Should read "Old man FAFO how to lose the rest of
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 10:59 AM
Jun 6

his retirement years over stupid shit that wasn't any of his business in the first place".

mercuryblues

(16,567 posts)
17. My guess is that his neighbors hate him
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 12:41 PM
Jun 6

The guy appears to be a self-appointed cop of the neighborhood.

GreatGazoo

(4,809 posts)
20. Could have been worse for either of them
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 01:59 PM
Jun 6

I follow a "use of force" expert on Youtube who testifies in trails related to road rage, fights, gunshots, etc. His most frequent advice is "Don't get into fights like this." Being right isn't going to keep you alive. It isn't your job to punish someone for being a jerk.

You don't know who is armed with CCW or a knife, or who is unhinged. Not worth it. De-escalate. Don't yell back. Leave or at the very least remain calm.

Once he has the 20YO head underwater lethal force to stop him may have been justified but far better not to escalate in the first place.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,095 posts)
35. The escalation, in the old guy's mind, was them being in that part of the lake.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 08:46 AM
Jun 8

Maybe the kid did not know he was not supposed to be there. How does he not escalate? He is in an area he isn't supposed to be. Does he not escalate by going back in time and not being in that area? And the top video says the old man has several other charges, not for this incident, against him. Maybe the old man is looking for a fight, given the other charges. Maybe he just isn't all there.

With some folks you can be in a car with the tires pointed away from the person in front of you. You may not be escalating at all. Maybe you are being nice and tell the guy in front of you that it is ok, you are not mad at him. And despite not escalating, you are shot and killed.

Sometimes escalation is not needed.

CivicGrief

(407 posts)
26. In hindsight, it is good they did.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:24 PM
Jun 7

I don't think it was filmed to go viral but as evidence. I would not have been able to show such restraint. They eventually did help. Too late in my opinion. One guy films, the other(s) help out.

johnnyfins

(4,166 posts)
28. Why did it take so long for his friends to
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:27 PM
Jun 7

1) drop the phone
2) come to his aid

Something a little strange here.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,095 posts)
36. I don't know, but it says a lot
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 08:48 AM
Jun 8

That the old guy has charges against him from other incident(s). I think this maybe a pattern.

erronis

(25,001 posts)
37. Update: Massachusetts judge releases Hopkinton man accused of attempted murder in beach chaos
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:44 PM
Jun 9
https://www.bostonherald.com/2026/06/05/massachusetts-judge-releases-hopkinton-man-accused-of-attempted-murder-in-beach-chaos/

A Massachusetts judge has released a man charged with attempted murder stemming from an altercation at a local beach, where he's accused of trying to drown a 21-year-old who was jet skiing with a group of friends.

Steven Dana, 70, of Hopkinton, has been ordered to stay away from and have no contact with the alleged victim or witnesses of the confrontation that erupted in chaos at Sandy Beach at Hopkinton's Lake Maspenock on Wednesday.

Framingham District Court Judge Michael Callahan, who released Dana on $7,500 bail, has also ordered the defendant to stay away from the beach and not to possess any firearms or dangerous weapons.

The incident has gone viral on social media, with a video showing Dana and a group of 20-something-year-olds shouting at each other before the defendant is seen slapping the 21-year-old man's face and then "orcefully holding (him) under the water," according to police.
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