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PCIntern

(28,721 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:30 AM 21 hrs ago

"Everybody knows...." This is really outrageous rhetoric

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:16 AM - Edit history (1)

The Right Wing Fascist/Nazi-speak is utilizing this pair of words prior to each lie they tell. It is a presumptive condition that what is about to follow is a UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED TRUTH.

Everybody knows that the elections were rigged

Everybody knows that solar and wind power is useless

Everybody knows that Joe Biden is enfeebled.

When I was in college, I had an acquaintance who, parenthetically, went on to a nationally renowned career in medicine. She was overwhelmingly opinionated about absolutely everything and would begin nine sentences out of ten with the words “You know,”. It was thus nearly impossible to discuss or argue with her because, well, “you know” you’d be on the wrong side of, well, any thesis.

It is a form of hypnosis and has aided Trump and his repulsive minions in basically forcing people to either agree with them or get off the bus. It is insidious and beyond undemocratic.

And one more thing: You know, everybody knows that these people are Nazis at heart.

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"Everybody knows...." This is really outrageous rhetoric (Original Post) PCIntern 21 hrs ago OP
I taught just the opposite NJCher 20 hrs ago #1
'You know' is the short form of - "You, know 'cause I don't" dave99 10 hrs ago #22
What ticks me off gab13by13 20 hrs ago #2
And ironically, oil spills and spewing smoke stacks are way uglier than wind turbines. SidneyR 19 hrs ago #5
Inevitably, the person who says "Everybody says..." actually saw it as a meme on their cellphone FakeNoose 20 hrs ago #3
Oh yes, that is a classic con trick PatSeg 20 hrs ago #4
Everybody knows elected republicOns only care about the richest 1%. KS Toronado 19 hrs ago #6
Many people are saying... ToxMarz 19 hrs ago #7
Love this one.. Permanut 12 hrs ago #17
But how many of those people are even worth listening to? calimary 10 hrs ago #21
Everybody knows that Republicans are pedophiles RainCaster 19 hrs ago #8
When my students said 'everyone knows', I would answer 'everyone in the known universe?' cbabe 19 hrs ago #9
Proof? Evidence? All you have to do is look. Harker 18 hrs ago #10
I'll take How to Propaganda for $1000 Alex. littlemissmartypants 18 hrs ago #11
If you precede a statement with the phrase "everybody knows" then it is highly unlikely the statement Martin68 18 hrs ago #12
Everyone knows...... SergeStorms 18 hrs ago #13
Your final sentence is intentionally ironic, no? Because yes, EVERYBODY DOES KNOW . ColoringFool 18 hrs ago #14
Yes of course PCIntern 18 hrs ago #15
That it should be the reply every time they say, everybody knows ,these people are Nazis MacKasey 7 hrs ago #28
The classic bandwagon fallacy SouthBayDem 17 hrs ago #16
Wanna know what everybody knows? "Everybody Knows, ' by Leonard Cohen. 3Hotdogs 11 hrs ago #18
Everybody knows . . . Aussie105 11 hrs ago #19
Yes, it's like an immune response. Usually it's for the right reasons, and produces the right results. nt eppur_se_muova 2 hrs ago #31
"Everybody knows Todd Blanche is very honest"... kentuck 11 hrs ago #20
Just once when trump or someone like him Figarosmom 9 hrs ago #23
Everyone knows Trumpanzees swallow horseshit like it's chocolate JHB 8 hrs ago #24
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 PCIntern 8 hrs ago #26
Republicans love, love, LOVE to do this. Mike Johnson just fucking said it about the so-called "rigged" elections in CA Karasu 8 hrs ago #25
Leonard Cohen had something to say about "Everybody Knows" thucythucy 8 hrs ago #27
"EVERYBODY KNOWS" that Republicans want everyone who might vote against them, to be Jack Valentino 6 hrs ago #29
Trmp has a very small bag full of these cliches. That one that craps me off the most is "Believe me !". eppur_se_muova 2 hrs ago #30

NJCher

(43,686 posts)
1. I taught just the opposite
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:38 AM
20 hrs ago

In my communication classes. I told them to beware of “you know” because it means the speaker doesn’t know.

“You know” is a speech crutch for the inarticulate..

Points were taken off in speeches where the speaker said “you know” more than once.

gab13by13

(32,937 posts)
2. What ticks me off
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:46 AM
20 hrs ago

Is when “they” say, the American people.

The American people don’t want ugly wind turbines, etc.

FakeNoose

(42,758 posts)
3. Inevitably, the person who says "Everybody says..." actually saw it as a meme on their cellphone
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:21 AM
20 hrs ago

PatSeg

(53,813 posts)
4. Oh yes, that is a classic con trick
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:31 AM
20 hrs ago

And sometimes he'll say, "I know it and you do too". It eliminates any cause for discussion or debate.

cbabe

(6,921 posts)
9. When my students said 'everyone knows', I would answer 'everyone in the known universe?'
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 10:25 AM
19 hrs ago

Martin68

(28,149 posts)
12. If you precede a statement with the phrase "everybody knows" then it is highly unlikely the statement
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:04 AM
18 hrs ago

that follows it is true. If everybody knows something, then there is no need to state that fact up front. It's like admitting you are either lying or very unsure of your premise. And, as the OP points out, highly likely that the speaker is desperate to persuade others to believe something that just isn't true.

SergeStorms

(20,939 posts)
13. Everyone knows......
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:09 AM
18 hrs ago

that everything coming out of a Trumpublican's mouth is a lie, but some refuse to admit it if it furthers their own agenda.

EVERYONE KNOWS!

ColoringFool

(1,286 posts)
14. Your final sentence is intentionally ironic, no? Because yes, EVERYBODY DOES KNOW .
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:14 AM
18 hrs ago

"these people are Nazis at heart"!!

And if there are some who do not know this, they are missing a "sapiens" from Homo sapiens sapiens!

MacKasey

(1,541 posts)
28. That it should be the reply every time they say, everybody knows ,these people are Nazis
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 10:24 PM
7 hrs ago

Before I saw your post,
I was thinking you should say ,
when they say everybody knows,

You should reply with,
everybody knows you're full of s***

But I think yours is better
Thanks

SouthBayDem

(33,414 posts)
16. The classic bandwagon fallacy
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 12:14 PM
17 hrs ago
The bandwagon fallacy, also known as the appeal to the masses or appeal to common belief fallacy, is the logical fallacy of claiming that something is true because everyone believes it. Whether that belief is actually true or not doesn’t matter—if an arguer claims that a position is true because it’s popular, the arguer is using the bandwagon fallacy.
(Grammarly)

The thankfully former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene had a famous example when she advocated for a national divorce on grounds that everyone she knows supported it: “We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government. Everyone I talk to says this.”

Aussie105

(8,269 posts)
19. Everybody knows . . .
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:25 PM
11 hrs ago

that someone who uses that phrase is just full of bovine excrement.

And it triggers my old-man Oppositional Defiance brain activity.

"Oppositional defiance, or ODD, is a behavioral disorder characterized by a persistent pattern of anger, irritability, defiance, and vindictive behavior toward authority figures."

I see it as a defense mechanism rather than a 'behavioral disorder'.

eppur_se_muova

(42,759 posts)
31. Yes, it's like an immune response. Usually it's for the right reasons, and produces the right results. nt
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 02:39 AM
2 hrs ago

Figarosmom

(14,155 posts)
23. Just once when trump or someone like him
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:11 PM
9 hrs ago

Says (you know it's true or I know it and you know it or everybody knows ) to a reporter or show host, that reporter or show host would say shut the fuck up. Or just say, no I don't know that's true. Show me the proof. Or if that's true why haven't you sued? Just something to acknowledge it's a lie and they know it.

JHB

(38,371 posts)
24. Everyone knows Trumpanzees swallow horseshit like it's chocolate
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:50 PM
8 hrs ago

Try to point out what the brown stuff in the bowl actually is, and they'll give you a hateful glare and order seconds and thirds, with extra guano sauce, just to savor the appalled look on your face.

Karasu

(2,233 posts)
25. Republicans love, love, LOVE to do this. Mike Johnson just fucking said it about the so-called "rigged" elections in CA
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:03 PM
8 hrs ago

In their world, no one ever needs evidence to substantiate anything. After all, “everybody knows.”

Which is especially hilarious in the context of the uninformed, post-factual society they have created. If anything, “nobody knows” is closer to the truth in this country nowadays.

thucythucy

(9,162 posts)
27. Leonard Cohen had something to say about "Everybody Knows"
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:18 PM
8 hrs ago

&list=RDGxd23UVID7k&start_radio=1

Jack Valentino

(5,322 posts)
29. "EVERYBODY KNOWS" that Republicans want everyone who might vote against them, to be
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:23 PM
6 hrs ago

sick, starving, and/or DEAD as soon as possible!
(or disenfranchised from voting through Trump's various schemes,
most of which are being defeated in the courts!)


Well, maybe 'everybody' doesn't 'know' that yet---
but more and more people who previously supported Trump are figuring it out---
and Trump and the Republicans aren't doing anything to help themselves---
instead, every day they make things worse for themselves!


Forget 2020, forget 2006 and 2008, forget 1974----

For 2026 and 2028, I'm beginning to envision "Democratic wave" elections
in Rooseveltian proportions !!!!!! (Think 1932 and 1934)


((YES, they are doing everything they can for the House of Representatives
with redistricting before the next census--- but it won't be enough to save their House---
and statewide votes for U.S. Senators CAN'T BE gerrymandered,
since they are state-wide votes... I have expectations that
at least ONE Republican senator whom they thought was 'safe',
will FAIL to be re-elected in 2026--- and by 2028, who knows??))


The Republicans will have no idea what hit them---
partly because they believe all their own lies about "what the people want"
and "how great the economy is",
and partly because all the policy shifts they passed in their 'big beautiful bill'
are bound to hit the poor rural red states (their party base) to the worst effects !!!


The SNAP work requirements for old people (age 55-64) and cuts are already
beginning to take effect---- and the cuts and 'work requirements' for Medicaid
are scheduled to begin in January 2027--- well before the 2028 elections!

(If the congressional Republicans had a brain in their heads, which they don't,
they would have scheduled BOTH things to begin not before January 2029! LOL)

((And of COURSE their refusal to renew the larger subsidies for 'Obamacare'
drove the cost of health insurance up for EVERYONE who had to buy it--- and more people blamed
the Republicans rather than the Democrats for the 'government shutdown'
over that issue!))


An electoral 'nuclear bomb' is set to detonate in November---
and it's relative 'throw-weight' is increasing, day by intolerable day!















eppur_se_muova

(42,759 posts)
30. Trmp has a very small bag full of these cliches. That one that craps me off the most is "Believe me !".
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 02:38 AM
2 hrs ago

It's not an explanation, it's not making an argument. It's just an order (or, at best, a pitch) to believe him despite a total lack of supporting evidence or logic. It's a dead giveaway that he has no point of argument that's even remotely convincing. All he can do is beg, and hope his "charisma" carries the day.

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