He, Ossoff, and Beshear are all being highly underrated for 2028.

reasons we are where we are at in this country. The shitshow and corruption we see today would not exist without their assistance.

….enabling or promoting corruption or a shitshow? For that matter, which of those considering themselves to be “progressive” have been taking action trying to prevent the corruption or the shitshow? Expending energy primarying solid House Democrats doesn’t count, and AOC actually does appear to be an exception.

Third Way’s strategy session for Democratic moderates lacked any vision other than a hatred for progressives.

https://prospect.org/2026/03/10/centrists-better-things-arent-possible-democrats-south-carolina-third-way/


Democratic strategist Jim Messina, right, speaks as Third Way President Jon Cowan listens during Third Way’s “Winning the Middle” conference, March 2, 2026, in Charleston, South Carolina. Credit: Meg Kinnard/AP Photo

A group of Democratic Party moderates gathered in Charleston, South Carolina, last Sunday and Monday for an event organized by Third Way, an influential group in the party’s moderate wing. The event, entitled “Winning the Middle,” brought together elected officials, prominent pundits, data gurus, communication savants, and industry figures with one goal in mind: how to block a progressive from winning the party’s nomination for president in 2028. The event’s speakers celebrated their claim that a similar conference hosted by Third Way in the same location back in 2019 helped power Joe Biden—whom they touted as “the most conservative Democrat in the 2020 field”—to the White House, recalling that South Carolina served as both the last refuge of and launching pad for the then-former vice president’s flailing presidential campaign. With Democratic popularity at an all-time low, Third Way’s event hoped to galvanize a moderate resurgence and stave off any potential progressive insurgency.

What is immediately apparent watching the event is a total lack of any positive vision. Rather than propose a worked-out centrist platform, or even suggest opposition to the Trump administration, the event largely defined itself in opposition to the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

The invite-only event (which was also broadcast on YouTube for me, and approximately 15 others, to watch live) opened with Third Way’s president, Jonathan Cowan, explaining that those gathered at the event stood opposed to, among other things, “open borders,” “modern monetary theory,” “land acknowledgments, identity politics, cancel culture, and more.” The goal of the gathering, as explained by Cowan, was to rebuild the Democratic Party into one that “can win the middle anytime, anywhere.” Winning, if the speakers are to be believed, is trivially simple. The only thing standing in the way of a resurgent Democratic Party that can win across the country—both in blue states and red—is a progressive wing that had soured the public on the Democratic brand.

Cowan’s agenda was almost entirely negative, focused above all on what his group is against. Explaining their health care vision, Cowan said that the assembled luminaries stood for “universal health care under the ACA, not Medicare for All and the end of private insurance.” While Cowan adopted the left’s rhetoric of “universal health care,” he failed to note that the Affordable Care Act not only has not achieved universal health care, but also only became net popular seven years after its passage, following an attempted repeal by the first Trump administration. The ACA was an improvement in many ways, but it was hardly the easy messaging win Cowan was making it out to be.

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WelcomeFest Wants Politicians Who Choose to Believe in Nothing

At centrism’s largest gathering, what was offered as the best path forward for Democrats is what sank their 2024 chances.

https://prospect.org/2025/06/10/2025-06-10-welcomefest-wants-politicians-who-choose-to-believe-in-nothing/



If the secret to winning elections is to believe in nothing at all except what focus groups approve of, then Future Forward should have been the most successful campaign operation in American history. The biggest outside spending arm in the 2024 election cycle, Future Forward raised across its super PAC and nonprofits a staggering $950 million, easily the most of any outside political organization in the last election, and almost certainly the most ever. The group appeared completely out of nowhere in 2020; Biden political maven Anita Dunn initially worried they were a new pro-Trump super PAC. But its funding base of Silicon Valley donors like Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman supported Democrats. And four years later, it was established enough to be the primary outside advertising force for Kamala Harris.

Future Forward was “probably the most analytics- and evidence-driven PAC I’ve ever seen,” a veteran of Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign told The New York Times. It promised “a ‘Moneyball’ method to political advertising,” in which thousands of messages would be tested in over ten million voter surveys and dozens of rounds of successive focus groups, to find exactly what combination of words, sounds, colors, and shapes elicited precisely the emotional response desired of the widest possible quantum of potential voters, cross-referenced by every demographic category, to once and for all solve politics. In 2024, Future Forward solicited hundreds of ads for Harris from dozens of Democratic ad makers, then whittled them down to produce those it found the most effective. In charge of the whittling process—and thus, the methodology for whether an ad was “effective” or not—was consulting firm Blue Rose Research, run by David Shor, the ever-ascendant pollster with Sam Bankman-Fried ties. Shor is the key theorist behind “popularism,” the idea that Democrats should exclusively talk about the parts of their agenda that poll well.

Shor’s theory of politics, then, had at its disposal the largest pool of funds in the history of elections, raised to win the most consequential race in the history of elections. Controversially, the group plunged almost all of its record-breaking budget into ads and analytics, and almost nothing into door-to-door field campaigning. It produced message-testing surveys, conducted deep analytics, cross-referenced the trusted data, then backwards-engineered what it determined to be “popular,” in order to make its candidate appear supportive of whatever it was currently optimal to appear supportive of. The result was that the Democrats, and Harris in particular, displayed their best selves, with scientifically engineered precision, in the messages with the greatest financial backing in 2024.

We already know what happened. Harris lost, Trump won, and American fascism dawned in earnest. Polling this year has found that 69 percent of voters say the Democratic Party is out of touch, and just 27 percent say Democrats are focused on helping people like them. A 56 percent majority say the party is not looking out for working people. Just 16 percent say Democrats are the party with stronger leaders—indeed, just 39 percent of Democrats say their party has stronger leaders—and only 25 percent view Democrats as the party of change. In short, people today don’t seem to trust the Democratic Party. There’s plenty of blame to go around for the 2024 election results. Stanley Greenberg laid out the intra-Harris campaign chaos in detail for the Prospect, and we have also stated our own gripes with Chief of Staff Jeffrey Zients and communications czar Anita Dunn. But clearly, if contemporary polls show that the public distrusts Democrats, then Shor, its messaging guru in control of the very core of Democratic strategy circa 2024, has not succeeded in optimizing the Democratic brand, even after being given virtually limitless resources to do so.

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creative content - but desperately wide ...

But, sure - let's see if Cory Booker can run the table (in either a primary, or general) for the home team.
Have at it!

Who, when and how? Republicans are extremists, radicals, it's insane chaos now. They need centrists, a status quo, a party platform like a regular political party.

How do Democrats have anything to do with this? How does the word "centrist" somehow explain how it was Democrats' fault? Can anyone give any kind of answer to this?

A governor has to take care of his own state first, and vie for national attention on time left over. A Senator, on the other hand, addresses the nation every time he or she steps up to speak on the Senate floor.

It is the nature of the job of US Senator to take on a sitting president of the opposing party, especially one so destructive as Trump has been from day one in 2017, let alone during his second term. Men like Jon Ossoff and Mark Kelly have a built-in access to national exposure if they want it. A governor has to build his or her own national stage, especially if they are from small states. You have to have both an ability to inspire and a lot of drive to become a Howard Dean or a Bill Clinton.

In a way, the many good Democrats running in tough re-election races are fortunate that the race for the White House isn’t until two years from now. If they come through this midterm test of fire, they will be all battle-tested and will have nothing to lose in 2028. If Rob Sand wins as Governor of Iowa, he will not be seeking the White House in two years, but he will definitely still be young enough to try for it in ten years, or even six if some catastrophe should occur in 2028.

Speaking of 2028, I think I already pity the Republican candidate who will be debating Kelly, Newsom, Ossoff or Shapiro, if our nominee is one of those four. I think any Republican would have a better chance of pushing over the Washington Monument with one hand than they would of scoring a debate win over any of those guys.

current U.S.A. Realizing that made me very sad.

like PA needs. And, by the accounts i've read, Gov Shapiro is doing a great job. We'll se what happens if he runs for President in 2028, I know how fast time goes now.

I don't like that word "centrist" .. it seems to have taken on a bad meaning.

We need Dems all across the Country to win for the Midterms. All hands on Dck!. Not the time for Division.

TY, question everything