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Klarkashton

(5,508 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 04:15 PM 7 hrs ago

Signing what turns out to be unlawful executive orders

Should be grounds for impeachment.

What is happening is that trump signs this unlawful shit it and immediately goes into effect until it's stopped by the courts. In the meantime laws are broken as a result.

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Seeking Serenity

(3,358 posts)
2. Does that mean President Biden should have been impeached for his executive attempt
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 04:47 PM
6 hrs ago

To eliminate college debt? I mean, the courts denied him in his attempt.

I don't think this has been thought all the way through.

Seeking Serenity

(3,358 posts)
15. Abuse of authority wasn't mentioned in the OP.
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 08:10 PM
3 hrs ago

All that was suggested was executive orders that are later found unlawful.

Klarkashton

(5,508 posts)
4. Did anyone get their debt erased.immediately? NO
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 05:11 PM
6 hrs ago

On the other hand did anyone have to pay absurd tariffs within hours of trumps bullshit? Etc etc...

Karasu

(2,314 posts)
8. Trump literally governs by executive order, he prefers to operate as a sole autocrat outside of the standard process.
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:09 PM
4 hrs ago

It was the same in his first term.

Biden never demonstrated anything remotely resembling this wanton abuse. Most all presidents issue executive orders, only Trump has "normalized" using them for absolutely fucking everything he wants.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,456 posts)
5. Trump's Executive Orders, legal or not, don't " immediately go into effect"
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 06:21 PM
5 hrs ago

First of all, EO’s only have authority over employees in the Executive Branch.

That’s it.

Any orders covering other things like how states run elections, are ignored without consequences.

In addition, EO’s attempting to control the states or others outside the Executive Branch have been met with lawsuits, which results in injunctions being issued that suspends the EO in question until a final ruling is made.

As for unlawful EO’s being ground for impeachment, well, of course they are, just as soon as Dems retake the house next year.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,456 posts)
9. ...and?
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:13 PM
4 hrs ago

The tariff EO affected the Executive Branch, which carried out the EO until SCOTUS ruled it was unlawful.

EO’s attempting to control how states run elections have been ignored, and many of them have been suspended pending adjudication.

Karasu

(2,314 posts)
10. When you have a completely subservient GQP in control of all three branches, many of these actions have indeed
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:15 PM
4 hrs ago

been enacted (lawfully or unlawfully) before the courts have weighed in, only to be addressed afterwards. There is a difference between the way things are supposed to work and what has been happening, and that is by design. The entire fascist strategy is an overwhelming blitzkrieg--to act faster than the system can respond, double-down, then attempt to circumvent the result if they think they can. In the rare instance where they have to publicly undo something they've already done (ex. the Kennedy Center name change), they try to cover it up in order to save face and preserve the image of their power.

It hasn't always worked out as well as they would have hoped, but that is very clearly what they are trying to do and have been trying to do.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,456 posts)
13. The election related EO's have been ignored by the states
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:27 PM
4 hrs ago

And the other agencies like USPS are getting slapped with injunctions.

They are a bunch of incompetent failures.

They have very little actual, physical control over anything outside the Executive Branch.

Their only true power is the ability to sow chaos and destruction, which produces unpredictable and uncontrollable results,

Karasu

(2,314 posts)
14. Yes, the election-related ones have indeed met with a quick response out of necessity, thankfully. We do have an
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:32 PM
3 hrs ago

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election coming up soon, after all, so they couldn't very well afford to drag their feet there.

We need more of this in general, not just regarding elections.

relogic

(383 posts)
11. Indeed
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:16 PM
4 hrs ago

and the march to normalize his authoritarian impulses and consequences merrily struts along.

thesquanderer

(13,171 posts)
12. There's no dearth of grounds for impeachment. Just a shortage of willing Republicans in Congress. n/t
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 07:19 PM
4 hrs ago
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