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Should be grounds for impeachment.
What is happening is that trump signs this unlawful shit it and immediately goes into effect until it's stopped by the courts. In the meantime laws are broken as a result.
lame54
(40,427 posts)Seeking Serenity
(3,358 posts)To eliminate college debt? I mean, the courts denied him in his attempt.
I don't think this has been thought all the way through.
RockCreek
(1,635 posts)Seeking Serenity
(3,358 posts)All that was suggested was executive orders that are later found unlawful.
Klarkashton
(5,508 posts)On the other hand did anyone have to pay absurd tariffs within hours of trumps bullshit? Etc etc...
Karasu
(2,314 posts)It was the same in his first term.
Biden never demonstrated anything remotely resembling this wanton abuse. Most all presidents issue executive orders, only Trump has "normalized" using them for absolutely fucking everything he wants.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,456 posts)First of all, EOs only have authority over employees in the Executive Branch.
Thats it.
Any orders covering other things like how states run elections, are ignored without consequences.
In addition, EOs attempting to control the states or others outside the Executive Branch have been met with lawsuits, which results in injunctions being issued that suspends the EO in question until a final ruling is made.
As for unlawful EOs being ground for impeachment, well, of course they are, just as soon as Dems retake the house next year.
Klarkashton
(5,508 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(24,456 posts)The tariff EO affected the Executive Branch, which carried out the EO until SCOTUS ruled it was unlawful.
EOs attempting to control how states run elections have been ignored, and many of them have been suspended pending adjudication.
Karasu
(2,314 posts)been enacted (lawfully or unlawfully) before the courts have weighed in, only to be addressed afterwards. There is a difference between the way things are supposed to work and what has been happening, and that is by design. The entire fascist strategy is an overwhelming blitzkrieg--to act faster than the system can respond, double-down, then attempt to circumvent the result if they think they can. In the rare instance where they have to publicly undo something they've already done (ex. the Kennedy Center name change), they try to cover it up in order to save face and preserve the image of their power.
It hasn't always worked out as well as they would have hoped, but that is very clearly what they are trying to do and have been trying to do.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,456 posts)And the other agencies like USPS are getting slapped with injunctions.
They are a bunch of incompetent failures.
They have very little actual, physical control over anything outside the Executive Branch.
Their only true power is the ability to sow chaos and destruction, which produces unpredictable and uncontrollable results,
Karasu
(2,314 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 25, 2026, 08:17 PM - Edit history (1)
election coming up soon, after all, so they couldn't very well afford to drag their feet there.
We need more of this in general, not just regarding elections.
Amaryllis
(11,560 posts)and the march to normalize his authoritarian impulses and consequences merrily struts along.