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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe 22 House Dems who voted to block a War Powers resolution that would stop Trump from using US forces in Lebanon
without Congressional approval:
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2026232
Representative Party State Vote
Cuellar Democratic TX Nay
Davis (NC) Democratic NC Nay
Gillen Democratic NY Nay
Gluesenkamp Perez Democratic WA Nay
Golden (ME) Democratic ME Nay
Gonzalez, V. Democratic TX Nay
Gottheimer Democratic NJ Nay
Gray Democratic CA Nay
Hoyer Democratic MDNay
Landsman Democratic OH Nay
Latimer Democratic NY Nay
Lee (NV) Democratic NV Nay
Moskowitz Democratic FL Nay
Norcross Democratic NJ Nay
Panetta Democratic CA Nay
Schneider Democratic IL Nay
Sherman Democratic CA Nay
Soto Democratic FL Nay
Suozzi Democratic NY Nay
Torres (CA) Democratic CA Nay
Vargas Democratic CA Nay
Veasey Democratic TX Nay
calimary
(91,559 posts)STILL hoping hell be cooperative.
All I can say is I just dont see it.
BComplex
(10,037 posts)WTF???
AZ8theist
(7,783 posts)BComplex
(10,037 posts)He has some 'splainin to do.
niyad
(135,512 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,699 posts)Haggard Celine
(18,032 posts)No one should act like it's in the bag, because things could turn on a dime any second. We have the edge right now, but if the Democrats have a big row in front of the whole country, people are going to say that Democrats aren't stable enough to govern. The Democrats and the Democratic Socialists need to start humming Kumbaya right about now and stay in tune until the day after Election Day. After that, they can all have a big mud wrassle for all I care.
Buddyzbuddy
(3,075 posts)Do we know if these are AIPAC supported members? Because that would answer a lot of questions.
Ford_Prefect
(8,699 posts)Scrivener7
(60,412 posts)KPN
(17,613 posts)basic values really that far different from my own? Can they all have ethically legitimate reservations about enforcing Congressional war powers in a war that is so flagrantly unjustifiable? Am I missing something?
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,568 posts)QueerDuck
(2,285 posts)... but foreign policy is where the fabric of the "Big Tent" of our party stretches the thinnest. These 'Nay' voters generally fall into two camps:
The Frontliners who represent competitive swing districts. A 'Yea' vote on a war powers resolution would be weaponized by the GOP to flip their seats in the next election, handing the gavel back to Republicans.
The Institutionalists who genuinely believe that restricting executive military authority harms our strategic alliances and national defense posture.
I do not believe it's correct to suggest that they "don't care about justice"... instead, it's that they are balancing local political survival, (representing the views of the voters in the districts that voted for them) along with having a more traditional, hawkish view of American foreign policy.
I think it's worth mentioning that campaign finance data shows these members aren't funded by any single entity... in fact, their budgets are spread across thousands of individual donors and traditional PACs. Although AIPAC is often a scapegoat... the fact is that they do not buy their votes. Instead they simply support the Democrats who already agree with their policy goals.
Our big tent has a deep ideological divide. It's not a financial takeover despite what others say.
Akakoji
(637 posts)Have all of them had their primaries yet? How many of them are in perhaps embattled districts? And stop focusing on AIPAC, and look at others like Bloomberg, etc. who will also fund anyone all in with Israel over anything else. Also, some of them specifically voted to block this to differentiate themselves from the Democratic socialists in the party. Republicans across the country are already recreating the red scare tactic against every Democrat. Suozzi and Giles in NY, for example, have already called for a moderator centrist Democratic Party wing. Long Island and Westchester are definitely not New York City. I want to know also if any Republicans voted against it. That will be especially telling. If they voted for it, I bet they are in a swing district or Jewish themselves. If you are surprised by Gottheimer or Moskowitz you really don't get it. The thing to remember as well is that if someone is retiring, they may not want to piss off a potential employer or the source of very lucrative contracting agreements. They are many, many ways to buy votes nowadays. We have the most corrupt SCOTUS ever, the most corrupt POTUS in the history of the country, and a house and Senate and other elected officials that might be swayable.
malaise
(299,841 posts)Rec
Passages
(4,649 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(3,075 posts)To ask if they are funded by AIPAC is a means of finding a common thread.
AIPAC doesn't always fund directly but often times through other PACs in order to hide the source of funds. Why do you think that might be.
We are in a war with Iran because our idiot of a President was and is manipulated by Netanyahu, a criminal of genocide currently wanted for crimes by the I.C.C. Netanyahu controls AIPAC whether directly or indirectly. He is also suspected of committing crimes domestically and if not for continuing the elimination of Palestinian men, women and children would be facing a criminal trial at home.
Not all AIPAC recipients are on this list, but as has been stated, they may be in districts that would look upon this vote favorably. If all on this list are supported either directly or indirectly by AIPAC, we have a right to know.
Thom Hartman has suggested our politicians should wear their sponsors' names like race car drivers. I agree.
Emile
(44,226 posts)for a centrist belief?