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moniss

(9,217 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 06:28 PM 3 hrs ago

When AI can't even get simple things straight

it should be a clear indicator that the rush for data centers should come to a grinding halt. This afternoon I casually inquired of Google, using my voice, whether the Post Office is open tomorrow July 3rd. Many of the Federal Agencies are recognizing the July 4th holiday on Friday the 3rd. Although the PO is a different animal I thought they might follow the Federal Agencies.

Google thought a moment and then came back on screen and showed in print that yes the Post Office is open for regular business on July 3rd, 2026. But almost simultaneously the AI voice came on and said "No the Post Office is not open on July 3rd, 2026 since they are recognizing the July 4th holiday on July 3rd. They will resume normal service and delivery on Monday July 6th, 2026."

So I stopped at my Post Office a short time ago and asked the clerk if they were open Friday July 3rd or if they were off that day. The clerk said it's business as usual tomorrow and they are closed on Saturday July 4th.

Amazingly there are people who want to let this garbage system do medical diagnosis and prescribe treatment. I think the f*cking Ouija Board or a trip to the local lady of mystery passing her hands over the crystal ball would do at least as well.

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When AI can't even get simple things straight (Original Post) moniss 3 hrs ago OP
spending billions of dollars... RussBLib 3 hrs ago #1
Most of us could get all the lies we moniss 3 hrs ago #2
Call me simple minded, Faux pas 3 hrs ago #3
AI makes mistakes, but it has been life-changing for me in many ways. I feel lucky to Doodley 3 hrs ago #4
Did AI Write that? unweird 3 hrs ago #6
wonder how much here is AI text? RussBLib 1 hr ago #11
AI isn't perfect, but what is? anciano 3 hrs ago #5
The problem is that the information being given moniss 2 hrs ago #8
"often factually wrong".... anciano 2 hrs ago #9
How do you know that it wasn't wrong? Wiz Imp 1 hr ago #12
so have you rigorously researched the responses to be sure they are accurate? RussBLib 1 hr ago #13
efficient? Wiz Imp 1 hr ago #10
To be fair, the consumer available versions pale in comparison with those used in industry. harumph 3 hrs ago #7

RussBLib

(10,863 posts)
1. spending billions of dollars...
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 06:31 PM
3 hrs ago

...to be lied to? Shit, we get that for free from the Orange Menace and his goons.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

Doodley

(12,149 posts)
4. AI makes mistakes, but it has been life-changing for me in many ways. I feel lucky to
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 06:45 PM
3 hrs ago

experience AI and the impact it is had on my very soul.

unweird

(3,318 posts)
6. Did AI Write that?
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 07:04 PM
3 hrs ago
I feel lucky to
experience AI and the impact it is had on my very soul.


?

RussBLib

(10,863 posts)
11. wonder how much here is AI text?
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 08:27 PM
1 hr ago

I think the tendency is to believe what AI produces for you, regardless of disclaimers.

HERE is your answer, and in small text at the bottom: "answers may be wrong." And if the answer confirms your bias, it is quickly accepted.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

anciano

(2,357 posts)
5. AI isn't perfect, but what is?
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 07:02 PM
3 hrs ago

Personally, I still find it to be an efficient and useful tool to obtain information, evaluate ideas, and explore options.

moniss

(9,217 posts)
8. The problem is that the information being given
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 07:19 PM
2 hrs ago

is often factually wrong and people don't know that and then go along believing false information.

anciano

(2,357 posts)
9. "often factually wrong"....
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 08:07 PM
2 hrs ago

Personally, in my experience so far, I have not found that to be the case.



YMMV

Wiz Imp

(10,903 posts)
12. How do you know that it wasn't wrong?
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 08:27 PM
1 hr ago
https://futurism.com/the-byte/study-chatgpt-answers-wrong
Study Finds That 52 Percent of ChatGPT Answers to Programming Questions Are Wrong
In recent years, computer programmers have flocked to chatbots like OpenAI’s ChatGPT to help them code, dealing a blow to places like Stack Overflow, which had to lay off nearly 30 percent of its staff last year.

The only problem? A team of researchers from Purdue University presented research this month at the Computer-Human Interaction conference that shows that 52 percent of programming answers generated by ChatGPT are incorrect.

That’s a staggeringly large proportion for a program that people are relying on to be accurate and precise, underlining what other end users like writers and teachers are experiencing: AI platforms like ChatGPT often hallucinate totally incorrectly answers out of thin air.

For the study, the researchers looked over 517 questions in Stack Overflow and analyzed ChatGPT’s attempt to answer them.

“We found that 52 percent of ChatGPT answers contain misinformation, 77 percent of the answers are more verbose than human answers, and 78 percent of the answers suffer from different degrees of inconsistency to human answers,” they wrote.

https://joshbersin.com/2025/10/bbc-finds-that-45-of-ai-queries-produce-erroneous-answers/
BBC Finds That 45% of AI Queries Produce Erroneous Answers
This is mindblowing. Today the BBC and EBU (European Broadcasting Union) published a detailed study which shows that around 45% of AI news queries to ChatGPT, MS Copilot, Gemini, and Perplexity produce errors.

In other words, the “dangerously self-confident” AI systems we use are quite poor at giving us good analysis of news. While the study focused on news, this shows us that we have to be extremely careful when using and trusting these “open corpus” systems because they are answering questions based on faulty, exaggerated, outdated, or incorrect data.

Examples are quite astounding: the AI’s incorrectly answered “who is the Pope,” “who is the Chancellor of Germany,” and in response to the question “Should I be worried about the bird flu”, Copilot claimed “A vaccine trial is underway in Oxford”. The source for this was a BBC article from 2006, almost 20 years old.

“Some were potentially consequential errors on matters of law. Perplexity (CRo) claimed that surrogacy “is prohibited by law” in Czechia, when in fact it is not regulated by the law and is neither explicitly prohibited nor permitted. Gemini (BBC) incorrectly characterized a change to the law around disposable vapes, saying it would be illegal to buy them, when in fact it was the sale and supply of vapes which was to be made illegal.”

RussBLib

(10,863 posts)
13. so have you rigorously researched the responses to be sure they are accurate?
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 08:28 PM
1 hr ago

If not, how do you know the response is wrong? Or right?

https://russblib.blogspot.com

Wiz Imp

(10,903 posts)
10. efficient?
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 08:19 PM
1 hr ago

It wasn't very efficient in the situation described. Getting wrong information quickly is not efficient. It's dangerous.

harumph

(3,559 posts)
7. To be fair, the consumer available versions pale in comparison with those used in industry.
Thu Jul 2, 2026, 07:17 PM
3 hrs ago

Those are not so much LLMs like Chat but rather special purpose types of AI. I think it has its uses, but so far its reach exceeds its grasp. I don't like the way many models are being trained on and hence infringing on people's creative works. The all consuming fascination that some have with it - is in my opinion flat out naive and creepy.

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