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Swede

(40,546 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 12:47 AM 16 hrs ago

God is either impotent or evil.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Lasher (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I read that somewhere.

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God is either impotent or evil. (Original Post) Swede 16 hrs ago OP
Seems that way doesn't it? I'm not a believer so it doesn't matter to me... wcmagumba 16 hrs ago #1
That depends H2O Man 16 hrs ago #2
Man created god in his own image... Wounded Bear 16 hrs ago #3
I think God dropped us off purr-rat beauty 15 hrs ago #4
At this moment in history - I wish there were a heaven and HELL. yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #5
And he always needs more money.. Permanut 15 hrs ago #6
Gods do not exist. They are a human invention. nt Celerity 15 hrs ago #7
Ding ding malaise 8 hrs ago #19
Or just maybe Timewas 15 hrs ago #8
or.....doesn't exist Skittles 14 hrs ago #9
Or a myth BigmanPigman 14 hrs ago #10
Or... love_katz 14 hrs ago #11
I really like this!!! hamsterjill 7 hrs ago #24
Or, is infinitely indifferent. Intractable 13 hrs ago #12
The Onion cleared it up years ago Easterncedar 13 hrs ago #13
Fictional characters can be whatever you want them to be JoseBalow 13 hrs ago #14
Or complicit Grim Chieftain 13 hrs ago #15
Or an asshole Stacey Grove 12 hrs ago #16
Or, a figment of our collective imagination, so he swings both ways...nt GReedDiamond 12 hrs ago #17
I ofen feel the same about humanity. Torchlight 8 hrs ago #18
I am agnostic Charmin One 8 hrs ago #20
God is either impotent, evil or nonexistent (n/t) PJMcK 8 hrs ago #21
"God" Mossfern 8 hrs ago #22
Definitely some kind of sadistic fuck dalton99a 7 hrs ago #23
Well, I sure don't have all of the answers. hamsterjill 7 hrs ago #25
Or Does Not Exist at All. MineralMan 7 hrs ago #26
If you are going to live forever in heaven you've got to have something to talk about. hunter 7 hrs ago #27
Locking. Lasher 6 hrs ago #28

wcmagumba

(7,065 posts)
1. Seems that way doesn't it? I'm not a believer so it doesn't matter to me...
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 12:49 AM
16 hrs ago

H2O Man

(79,513 posts)
2. That depends
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 12:53 AM
16 hrs ago

upon one's definition of "God."

Wounded Bear

(64,887 posts)
3. Man created god in his own image...
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 12:56 AM
16 hrs ago

and gave him all the attributes of a spoiled 10 year old child. - Heinlein and others.

purr-rat beauty

(1,694 posts)
4. I think God dropped us off
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 01:07 AM
15 hrs ago

At the pool, like sea monkeys and is now busy with other projects

yellow dahlia

(6,957 posts)
5. At this moment in history - I wish there were a heaven and HELL.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 01:10 AM
15 hrs ago

Permanut

(8,744 posts)
6. And he always needs more money..
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 01:33 AM
15 hrs ago

- George Carlin.

And that is a comment about the grifters and con artists who claim to speak for God.

Celerity

(55,440 posts)
7. Gods do not exist. They are a human invention. nt
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 01:46 AM
15 hrs ago

malaise

(299,857 posts)
19. Ding ding
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 08:26 AM
8 hrs ago

a very profitable invention

Timewas

(2,822 posts)
8. Or just maybe
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 01:57 AM
15 hrs ago

Does actually exist anywhere but in some peoples imagination

Skittles

(173,717 posts)
9. or.....doesn't exist
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 02:08 AM
14 hrs ago

BigmanPigman

(55,785 posts)
10. Or a myth
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 02:28 AM
14 hrs ago

There is no "god". Religion is a myth created by overly testosteroned men who want to make a cult that will empower them throughout thousands and thousands of years. Religions destroy. Religions subjugate. Religions create hatred. Religions make women servants. Religions are cults who deceive and destroy to gain wealth and power. Religions and the men who follow them have a single agenda...destruction of everything and everyone who does not support their murderous drive of complete and supreme wealth and control of the planet.

Religion and the men who promote religion have always destroyed our planet and always will continue to destroy our planet. It is a fact.

love_katz

(3,310 posts)
11. Or...
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 03:03 AM
14 hrs ago

She's a working Mom. So, it's up to us to clean up our own mess.

hamsterjill

(17,987 posts)
24. I really like this!!!
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 09:43 AM
7 hrs ago

Makes sense, doesn't it?

Intractable

(2,621 posts)
12. Or, is infinitely indifferent.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 03:10 AM
13 hrs ago

"The universe is neither hostile nor benign; it's just infinitely indifferent." - someone wiser than me

Easterncedar

(6,687 posts)
13. The Onion cleared it up years ago
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 03:19 AM
13 hrs ago

He’s bipolar

JoseBalow

(9,949 posts)
14. Fictional characters can be whatever you want them to be
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 03:26 AM
13 hrs ago

Which god are you referring to?

Grim Chieftain

(2,364 posts)
15. Or complicit
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 03:32 AM
13 hrs ago

Imagine any of us witnessing a horrible event and doing nothing. God, if there is a god, has witnessed them throughout history

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus, 341-270 BC

Stacey Grove

(188 posts)
16. Or an asshole
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 04:21 AM
12 hrs ago

GReedDiamond

(5,572 posts)
17. Or, a figment of our collective imagination, so he swings both ways...nt
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 04:42 AM
12 hrs ago

Torchlight

(7,287 posts)
18. I ofen feel the same about humanity.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 08:22 AM
8 hrs ago

Charmin One

(393 posts)
20. I am agnostic
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 08:40 AM
8 hrs ago

If you are a nice person, you envision a nice god. If you’re a mean person, you envision a mean god.

PJMcK

(25,244 posts)
21. God is either impotent, evil or nonexistent (n/t)
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 08:56 AM
8 hrs ago

Mossfern

(4,924 posts)
22. "God"
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 09:00 AM
8 hrs ago

is the organizing force of the universe. "God" is like a tapestry of light with an infinitely complex design. When actions veer from that pattern there's a correction - that's all. Not evil, not impotent, not mean - just IS. Those are human attributes. Men created myth to explain the world and the universe - it's a way of coping - to assume that one has some sort of control over one's destiny. Ha!

dalton99a

(96,419 posts)
23. Definitely some kind of sadistic fuck
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 09:36 AM
7 hrs ago

hamsterjill

(17,987 posts)
25. Well, I sure don't have all of the answers.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 09:53 AM
7 hrs ago

As a person of faith, I question that every day. I applaud all of the answers here, because the answer is that no one really knows. Each person should be free to believe as they see fit, including having no belief system at all.

I think the vast majority of people on the planet believe in some type of creator. A lot of Democrats have a deep faith, including Kamala Harris, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, so I'm always a little sad when people make negative comments about those of us who choose to believe (not necessary saying that is happening here), but it's for each of us, individually, to figure out and explore.

The one thing that I DO know is that when religion - ANY religion is forced on someone - the basic, human response is to resist. So no one should ever be forced to participate in religion or religious activities unless they choose to do so freely. That's why we have and we will always need separation of church and state. There's no gray area in that as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks for an interesting thread.

MineralMan

(152,108 posts)
26. Or Does Not Exist at All.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 09:55 AM
7 hrs ago

hunter

(40,965 posts)
27. If you are going to live forever in heaven you've got to have something to talk about.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 09:56 AM
7 hrs ago

A dramatic death with lots of suffering is a pretty good topic.

Nobody in heaven wants to hear your story about how you had a perfectly happy life and a pleasant painless death surrounded by family.

Best fucking thing that ever happened to humanity was when Eve ate that apple and God kicked the humans out of His garden. ( It wasn't just Adam and Eve, however. That would be creepy. )

Sigh.

My point is not to mock religion but those who would interpret religious texts literally as a justification for oppressing others and destroying what's left of the natural world as we know it.

I don't respect religious people who worship cruel and capricious gods and behave accordingly. I don't respect religious anti-intellectualism. I can respect anyone who is kind and get's along well with their neighbors regardless of anyone's religious beliefs or lack of them.

Some religions, especially as practiced by certain communities, really are toxic. I don't think they should automatically be respected or even tolerated. I don't have any trouble telling people that the god they worship is an asshole. But it doesn't make any sense to say "God is either impotent or evil" if you don't believe any god exists. You can't have it both ways. There's no point in being an atheist if you still carry the baggage of the god you reject.

Lasher

(29,738 posts)
28. Locking.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 10:10 AM
6 hrs ago

OPs about religion are restricted in this forum. I recommend the Religion forum for this contribution.

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