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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-fifa-world-cup-usmnt-folarin-balogun-suspension-intervention-live-updates.htmlIt was of course inevitable that a World Cup hosted by the U.S. while FIFAs first and only peace prize winner Donald Trump is president would involve some precedent-shattering political intervention which outraged the world, and now its happened. Over the weekend, FIFA rescinded the automatic suspension of the USMNTs top scoring player, striker Folarin Balogun, following a pressure campaign by the White House and Trump who personally spoke with FIFA president Gianni Infantino about the matter. Balogun received a controversial red card, following a VAR review, during Americas Round-of-32 victory against Bosnia and Herzegovina, and was thus supposed to be automatically barred from playing in the next game in the tournament. FIFA swears the extraordinary reversal wasnt politically influenced, but everyone else is far from convinced. The move has not only called into question the legitimacy of the U.S. team, but the integrity of this years tournament and (once again) of FIFA, itself.
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justaprogressive
(7,395 posts)Walleye
(45,889 posts)We cant even except when a woman says she cant stand him. Rejection is tough on the poor boy.
rampartd
(5,705 posts)Codifer
(1,218 posts)"No means yes and yes means anal".
allegorical oracle
(6,744 posts)is encrusted with 321 diamonds, 56 sapphires, 13 emeralds, and six rubies. The top of the ring is the size of a watch face. His tiny little finger will be weighted down.
thomski64
(1,018 posts)..if the US team loses, as it surely will, if not to Belgium then to Spain.
Will the cunt of mostly Crisco have his Neanderthal hordes storm the stadium and smear feces??
What a numbskull (a lot people don't know there's a B in numbskull)
dem4decades
(14,732 posts)maxsolomon
(39,504 posts)You're not posting in Scotland or Australia, mate.
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)And rarely is removed.
The Madcap
(2,220 posts)That name is the worst profanity.
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)He is but not his name
The Madcap
(2,220 posts)Which is why I think he is even worse.
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)The Madcap
(2,220 posts)Thank you for saying so.
Another Jackalope
(228 posts)They're both slang terms for part of the anatomy. How did one become quasi-acceptable and the other not?
Should I remove my reference to Trump being an asshole?
Given the efforts of womyn to reclaim the "c" word, I think objecting to it may be more misogynistic than using it in the first place. But I'm cis-male, and so have less right to opinions on such matters.
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)And find it very offensive, regardless, whom it is directed at. Much like when homophobic slayers are directed at Republicans and it is justified because of the target. My family, who is LGBTQ find that offensive and homophobic.
YMMV
But it is a free country you can direct any slur at any person you want. I also have the right to judge the use of such slurs.
Another Jackalope
(228 posts)Linguistic interpretation is primarily cultural and secondarily personal, IMO. I've had others object when I referred to Trump as an "orange shitgibbon" because of their respect for those other primates. As another example, I find the use of the word "pig" to refer to men in general to be extremely offensive. I find the c word more off-colour than offensive, but that's just me. Out of respect for others' sensitivities, I just don't use it. There are more generally acceptable ways of making the underlying point.
I'm sorry if my position upsets you.
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)We are good
Another Jackalope
(228 posts)pattyloutwo
(566 posts)Especially your spelling of women. I didn't know I was reclaiming the c word. Yes, you know a lot about this issue 🙄
orangecrush
(32,037 posts)I can't.
I just can't.
We get into some weird shit on this site.
pattyloutwo
(566 posts)sarisataka
(23,122 posts)I was on a jury and voted to hide, but hypothetically if I was on such a jury I know what I would have voted.
Galraedia
(5,338 posts)maxsolomon
(39,504 posts)Hence my response.
Wednesdays
(23,546 posts)"The Con of Mostly Crisco."
NBachers
(19,686 posts)31j20b3
(187 posts)Sour grapes not withstanding, it seems FIFA is perched to survive this.
ImNotGod
(1,346 posts)will be forfeit in the eyes by the entire world.
31j20b3
(187 posts)But I've listened to many commentaries on this, and the common message, perhaps pushed by a corrupt FIFA leadership, is that there was agreement among players and coaches that the red card was a bad call.
I don't really care about soccer/football or any other sport to see it move it into a political domain. Mostly I think it's Trump faking power and influence when the shaky reality of the call was already understood within the players and teams
EdmondDantes_
(2,307 posts)Is anything England accomplishes forfeit because Starmer helped stop an earlier start for the Mexico game? Or is it just that you hate Trump that he lives rent free in your head and you can't imagine that other people aren't so consumed by him. I get it, he sucks. But most of the rest of the world isn't nearly as consumed by him as too many of us are. If FIFA sending the World Cup to Russia and Qatar didn't diminish the World Cup, neither is Trump whining and getting a suspension suspended isn't going to do it
bleedingulcers
(90 posts)by how much other countries focus on him. Look at any international newspaper online and see how often he's mentioned. And then VISIT somewhere, and see what people say to you as soon as they realize that you're from the US.
They're obsessed with him, and they think that we're idiots for electing him again...
Old Crank
(7,463 posts)Probably should have been a caution. The player accepted it and the coach.
FIFA has done this before, vacating punishment for a red card. For Christiano Ronaldo. He had 2 games of suspension removed.
That set a precedent.
The biggest problem is the real or perceived interference by Trump. That is what is so bad about this in my opinion. Infanti could have said I talked to a bunch of officials, referees and we thought the decision was too harsh. Then agree or not people would move on.
Having Trump, seemingly, in a public manner put the squeeze on changes the equation. Not for the better.
wiggs
(8,883 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,388 posts)Everything Trump Touches Dies.
not fooled
(6,827 posts)I came here to post the same thing. Rick Wilson is right!
Boo1
(679 posts)But wasnt everyone pissed off that he shouldnt have had the red card in the first place?
Wanderlust988
(806 posts)Balogun only got the red card cause he's black. Yes I said it. The soccer rules are not applied equally. Everyone knows this. Nothing is fair in soccer. So what's good for the goose is good for gander.
maxrandb
(17,573 posts)The point is, you accept the outcome. Your dad doesn't call the league to get a reversal.
I watch a lot of sports. There are missed calls and bad calls in every game. It's part of the game, and it happens all the time.
Part of being a mature adult, is accepting the rules you've agreed to and accepting the fact that things don't always go your way. You dust yourself off, move on, and accept that sometimes the cookie crumbles your way, and sometimes it doesn't.
This is just one more example that Donnie Dipshit and his fucking MAGAts don't think the rules apply to them.
If Balogun plays, he's no different than the lowest MAGAt Proud Boy out there.
Ponietz
(4,710 posts)He didnt cry or complain. To equate Balogun with MAGA is deluded and infantile.
JT45242
(4,257 posts)It's literally in the rules -- political pressure is an automatic DQ for that country.
TomSlick
(13,143 posts)FIFA is a law unto itself.
vanlassie
(6,310 posts)No integrity.
JT45242
(4,257 posts)Sickening that the two largest international sporting events are basically criminal organizations that are open for bribes.
agingdem
(9,065 posts)FIFA was buying Trumps silence allow the games to go on without Trumps psychotic need to sabotage hosting blue state cities but regardless the right or wrong of Baloguns red card suspension, Trump (the apex of corruption) calling in a favor and FIFA (under scrutiny for ethics complaints) honoring that favor, poisoned the one grand event that brought the us together as a nation..
Blue Owl
(60,208 posts)Like his little sippy cup of warm milk
usonian
(27,364 posts)
mdbl
(9,050 posts)I know the GOP doesn't.
Skittles
(173,790 posts)had to insert himself
Grim Chieftain
(2,380 posts)He is tampering with the ruling to suit himself and effect a favorable outcome. The event has been tainted by his interference and people should send a very clear message that this will not be tolerated.
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)There has long been scandals in cheating in various matches. In certain areas of the world, it is tacitly accepted that if you dont get caught it is legal. The France versus Paraguay match was an excellent example of that attitude; had Paraguay won they would not have disqualified themselves for their actions in the match.
Grim Chieftain
(2,380 posts)sarisataka
(23,122 posts)Grim Chieftain
(2,380 posts)sarisataka
(23,122 posts)Its like trash talk during the game and then everyone goes out for a beer afterwards
Although thinking about it, I should give myself a yellow card for unsporting behavior, and trash talking
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)It has endured scandals and cheating (Im looking at you, Maradona) in the past this will be a footnote, but ultimately this scandal will be small potatoes.
moonshinegnomie
(4,182 posts)they are both nothing more than corrupt organizatons the exist to make their leadership rich thru corruption
sarisataka
(23,122 posts)But given the amount of money involved in both venues, I fear corruption would simply re-emerge.
The ironic thing is this FIFA is still better than it was under Sepp Blatter. SMH
ananda
(35,910 posts)No matter who, what, or where... Trump will
claim it to own, fuck it up, and proclaim victory
and excellence for his part and blame something
or someone else for the fuckup.
The Madcap
(2,220 posts)He would go ballistic.
3catwoman3
(30,330 posts)...all the crap that it always in the news about Trump.
Now he has ruined even that.
Initech
(109,756 posts)I'm so sick of the fucking man child getting everything he wants. Enough is enough.
2naSalit
(105,167 posts)The Olympics.
You just know he'll fuck that up too, especially if he can't make it all about himself.
ChicagoTeamster
(1,542 posts)Fil1957
(984 posts)responsibility? Perhaps the most? If no one knuckles under to Trump, his power is greatly diminished. People and organizations that do, are at least partly to mostly responsible for this disastrous presidency.
After all, Trump is just being Trump and doesn't know any better. It's up to the adults in the room to curb him, because they SHOULD know better.
Music Man
(1,682 posts)It's been a fun, joyous World Cup, and then he just had to inject himself into it. It was inevitable. He is the dumbest, most brutish embarrassment.
Even the press conference today. He was going on and on about how much he knows about sports but then says he started hearing about what a big deal a red card is. A goddman, fucking embarrassment of a man and president.
Martin68
(28,391 posts)BradBo
(1,095 posts)WorkDoctor
(83 posts)He broke the USFL years ago, nearly jinxed the Knicks, and now calls up his buddy who gave him his fake trophy (after nearly stealing the REAL World Cup trophy brought to the oval bordello).