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erronis

(25,322 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:09 PM Wednesday

Drained reflecting pool reveals Trump's 'American flag blue' liner is now closer to gray

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/15/dc-reflecting-pool-gray

Trump's effort to revamp the landmark stretched well past the goal of having it ready by the Fourth of July


The Lincoln Memorial and the reflecting pool are seen from the Washington Monument on 15 July. Photograph: Rahmat Gul/AP


The newly drained Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool's bottom surface has noticeably faded since it was lined with a protective coating in a color Donald Trump called "American flag blue" this spring.

An Associated Press reporter and photographer viewed the fenced-off reflecting pool on Wednesday from the top of the Washington Monument. The new liner appears grayer than when the pool was repainted and refilled with water in early June. Debris that had been visible earlier this week after the pool was drained is now largely gone, after work crews removed it.

Trump's problem-plagued effort to revamp the landmark has stretched well past his initial goal of having the reflecting pool ready by 4 July for the nation's 250th birthday.

The president at first suggested his renovations would cost $1.5m, but the bill ballooned to more than $16m by June.

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Drained reflecting pool reveals Trump's 'American flag blue' liner is now closer to gray (Original Post) erronis Wednesday OP
Might have had canetoad Wednesday #1
Or the hydrogen peroxide? If the liner can't stand some oxidants it shouldn't be exposed to the sun! erronis Wednesday #2
Yeah, that's what I meant canetoad Wednesday #6
Great minds, and all that! erronis Wednesday #11
Hydrogen peroxide and intense ultraviolet light mr715 Wednesday #10
Money laundering... BattleRow Wednesday #15
I can't see how that could be true dsc Wednesday #19
My pool liner got bleached BWdem4life Wednesday #20
Those are chlorine based, right? mr715 13 hrs ago #29
It's more like a pickup bed liner jmowreader 16 hrs ago #26
The shoddy work from no bid contracts. Emile Wednesday #3
Time for another drag race FakeNoose Wednesday #4
Accountant here.. Permanut Wednesday #5
Aren't you familiar with multiple sets of books? erronis Wednesday #9
It's a whole differnt kind of double entry bookkeeping. Permanut Wednesday #18
Where is the 300 yard gash? johnnyfins Wednesday #7
Landing strip. chowder66 Wednesday #8
I have what's going to sound like a slightly ridiculous question jmowreader Wednesday #12
I would guess several more millions have aready gone into repairing the repair work. flashman13 Yesterday #22
Kinda faded back closer to the gray shade it was before it was painted. Why don't allegorical oracle Wednesday #13
They can dump some blue dye in the water and be done with it, you know? FakeNoose Wednesday #14
The water normally contains a dark dye which causes higher contrast between the surface reflection and bottom. eppur_se_muova Wednesday #16
These are not the brightest people.. surfered Wednesday #17
Confederate gray at that BaronChocula Yesterday #21
Probably the peroxide leached the colour out. applegrove Yesterday #23
It's filthy! LeftInTX Yesterday #24
And We American Taxpayers Mr.Bee 16 hrs ago #25
Fill it full of soil. The Madcap 16 hrs ago #27
So he repainted a gray liner gray just like he took Iran's GPV 15 hrs ago #28
I think a light gray sky color would be ideal for such a monument. kentuck 13 hrs ago #30

erronis

(25,322 posts)
2. Or the hydrogen peroxide? If the liner can't stand some oxidants it shouldn't be exposed to the sun!
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:13 PM
Wednesday

mr715

(5,148 posts)
10. Hydrogen peroxide and intense ultraviolet light
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:23 PM
Wednesday

Add a lit microbial action to the mix.

They built a reflecting washing machine.

dsc

(53,476 posts)
19. I can't see how that could be true
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 11:35 PM
Wednesday

from every report I read this was similar to a pool liner. That shouldn't be affected by bleach or hydrogen peroxide.

BWdem4life

(3,198 posts)
20. My pool liner got bleached
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 11:47 PM
Wednesday

In the deep part where chemicals pooled because I didn't sweep the crystals off the bottom.

mr715

(5,148 posts)
29. Those are chlorine based, right?
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 01:13 PM
13 hrs ago

Hypochlorite salts? Calcium hypochlorite or something?

The action of solid crystals on the surface of the liner is way more intense than the dilute peroxide action in the reflecting pool.

It is really interesting chemistry. I wonder how it happened.

jmowreader

(53,616 posts)
26. It's more like a pickup bed liner
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 10:39 AM
16 hrs ago

While it isn't the exact formula used in bed liners, the company that made the product Trump used on the Reflecting Pool is one of the two biggest manufacturers of truck bed lining.

A pool liner is sorta like a bag you attach to the walls of your pool to keep the water in. This was sprayed on.

FakeNoose

(43,497 posts)
4. Time for another drag race
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:18 PM
Wednesday


Might as well, the damage is already done. Let everyone see what an idiot our president is.

Permanut

(8,809 posts)
5. Accountant here..
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:18 PM
Wednesday

$16 million "cost" means that money moved from one bank account to another.

Where is it now?

erronis

(25,322 posts)
9. Aren't you familiar with multiple sets of books?
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:22 PM
Wednesday

Trump obviously is.

Things are a lot more complicated now with all the multiple levels of shell corporations/LLCs/off-shore partnerships, etc.

To say nothing about flat-out lying on any required form.

I feel for you!

jmowreader

(53,616 posts)
12. I have what's going to sound like a slightly ridiculous question
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:26 PM
Wednesday

Isn't that what color it was $15 million ago?

allegorical oracle

(6,789 posts)
13. Kinda faded back closer to the gray shade it was before it was painted. Why don't
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:30 PM
Wednesday

they fix whatever pipes might be broken, seal seams if needed, and leave it gray? Fill it back up and let it be.

Put the $$ into something else that he's screwed up. Or, put it toward the $16,000 per hour in helicopter costs it takes to tote JD Vance's son to his golf lessons?

eppur_se_muova

(43,073 posts)
16. The water normally contains a dark dye which causes higher contrast between the surface reflection and bottom.
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 11:18 PM
Wednesday

I suspect years of use of that dye would leave the lining darkened anyway, which should also make the reflecting pool seemingly more reflective. Trmp's plan to paint it FL-swimming-pool blue was horribly misguided from the beginning. No one in this maladministration gives a shit about history, tradition, established procedures, or records left by their predecessors. They COULD HAVE read up on how and why the pool was designed the way it was, but NOOOOOOOOO!

Mr.Bee

(2,015 posts)
25. And We American Taxpayers
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 10:32 AM
16 hrs ago

Get to pay for each and every one of his trump blunders!
Remember that next time you think of 'great again'.

GPV

(73,535 posts)
28. So he repainted a gray liner gray just like he took Iran's
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 11:33 AM
15 hrs ago

nukes in his sights, and is now scrambling to get back where Obama had us?

kentuck

(116,400 posts)
30. I think a light gray sky color would be ideal for such a monument.
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 01:29 PM
13 hrs ago

It would reflect the somber reality that it was meant to convey, in my opinion.

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