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Coolgoober

(479 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 12:04 PM 16 hrs ago

Our friend is more of an Ayn Rand than he is a Trump Humper

He's selfish. He's a narcissist. He doesn't shut up. He preached that we should all take care of ourselves. He didn't want to pay taxes for school because he didn't have any kids. He didn't want to pay any taxes because he can take care of himself. So, for the past 25 years he worked under the table and went very private about almost everything in his life. He wouldn't wear a mask during Covid. He's a conspiracy theorist. Anyway, I think you get the picture.

Well, Three weeks ago he didn't show up for his under the table gig job, so someone went to check on him. He was sitting in the dark, looked like shit and was confused. They took him to the hospital. After some testing they determined that he had had several strokes. Now he is blind in one eye, his balance is poor and he's confused alot. He also hits himself now but they think that might be schizophrenia. They discovered that his two brothers were diagnosed years ago and it was his dark secret he didn't want anyone to know.

Anyway, since he's very private he comes off as homeless. He doesn't want anyone to know where he lives. Well, they hooked him up with a social worker who in turn hooked him up with our states health plan which is funded in part by Medicaid. So the guy that could take care of himself is going to have free health care and most likely snap benefits because he can't work anymore.

He used to love to preach and argue about those things and now he'll have better care than some of our other friends who have paid their fair share Although they do know where he lives now!

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Our friend is more of an Ayn Rand than he is a Trump Humper (Original Post) Coolgoober 16 hrs ago OP
Wow! leftieNanner 16 hrs ago #1
Exactly like Ayn Rand - werdna 16 hrs ago #2
Sounds like most libertarians. dedl67 15 hrs ago #3
It's not a coherent philosophy, it's just selfishness. hay rick 14 hrs ago #4
Rand even wrote... GiqueCee 13 hrs ago #5
Is there anyone, besides you left to love& care about him? irisblue 13 hrs ago #6
For the most part, no Coolgoober 13 hrs ago #10
I get that he's a jerk Bristlecone 13 hrs ago #7
Why Do We Teach Respect For Our Elders? modrepub 13 hrs ago #8
Yes. And it's so sad when we forget that. My father was hard of hearing (it got much worse in WW2 but they lost his Wonder Why 13 hrs ago #9
Theyre called Randroids SamuelTheThird 13 hrs ago #11
A description of a Republican! NM Grins 2 hrs ago #12

leftieNanner

(16,190 posts)
1. Wow!
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 12:10 PM
16 hrs ago

The folks like him who complain about taxes don't think they use any of the commons paid for by taxes?

They may not have children, but better schools increase their property value.

I really don't understand this, other than cruel selfishness.

werdna

(1,281 posts)
2. Exactly like Ayn Rand -
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 12:22 PM
16 hrs ago

- who also lived her life espousing economic and social individualism and independence only to wind up at the end of her life dependent on governmental support for her well being and WELFARE!

GiqueCee

(5,301 posts)
5. Rand even wrote...
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 02:34 PM
13 hrs ago

... a mercifully short book entitled, The Virtue Of Selfishness. I shit you not. The woman also hated altruism in any and all forms; she never shut up about it. Yet she died collecting Social Security, which her devotees today want to take away from those of us who have paid into it, for more than 60 years, in my case.
Ayn Rand was rotten to the very core of her being. In the late sixties, I was strongly encouraged to read her essays and 3rd-rate doorstop novels by my employers, who were fervent "Objectivists".
Reminds me of a joke: A little boy says to his mother, "When I grow up, I'm gonna be a Libertarian!" His mother replied, "Well, which is it going to be? You can't do both!"

Coolgoober

(479 posts)
10. For the most part, no
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 03:14 PM
13 hrs ago

He has alienated himself from most people because to be honest he is exhausting. When this happened, after about a week his childhood friend came to see him. He was supposed to be here ten days. He was gone in two. Even though he was here to help all he got was yelled at and blamed for telling the hospital where he lived. It wasn't him. It was the guy who found him sitting in the dark.

My wife and her sister give him more compassion than most ever would, but he does not make it easy. Me? I'll help when I can but I struggle with people who are never wrong, and never make mistakes.

Thanks for asking though, blue

Bristlecone

(11,308 posts)
7. I get that he's a jerk
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 02:48 PM
13 hrs ago

Last edited Thu Jul 16, 2026, 04:48 PM - Edit history (1)

But if I am honest, I contribute my taxes accepting that we will collectively, as a society, end up taking care of those who cannot take care of themselves, regardless. Some folks think it’s a principled stand- like your friend, some just take advantage. But I think those really are corner cases.

Not being self righteous at all. I wish this guy had got with the program, but we take the good with the bad. Maybe this will open his eyes and he can evangelize.

I have a quasi-friend that makes a better than decent living, and he is always complaining about how his taxes have to go to aid for his sister, her “shiftless” boyfriend and her kids. As if this is some sort of cautionary tale that proves a “taxes are too high” point

And every time, I tell him that those kids need help, it’s not their fault. It’s not better for anyone for kids to not get food, care, have a place to live, not go to school, so stop bitching.

modrepub

(4,280 posts)
8. Why Do We Teach Respect For Our Elders?
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 02:52 PM
13 hrs ago

So that we establish societal empathy because the majority of us realize that someday we to will be old and need that support.

Wonder Why

(7,599 posts)
9. Yes. And it's so sad when we forget that. My father was hard of hearing (it got much worse in WW2 but they lost his
Thu Jul 16, 2026, 03:10 PM
13 hrs ago

records in the big veteran records fire and denied him them). He couldn't afford good ones and even the overpriced ones he bought were not great. In any case, we teenaged kids would say something at the table and when he missed it, he'd ask us to repeat. Sometimes, we would repeat but other times would say "Never mind, dad" and he was left out of the conversation.

I now have hearing loss and get mine from the VA. But I'll never forget what I did to him. Yes, so did my siblings but that's no excuse. When I have problems hearing other people and ask them to repeat, I often get teary eyed being reminded how, when young, forgot that we are all headed there and would someday be dependent on others and on government aid.

My shame will go with me to the grave. I still think "Dad, I'm sorry" 40+ years after his death.

Makes my wonder if Graham, if he felt death coming, said to himself "My God, what have I done?"

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