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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJim Himes on Lawrence just now was stunning. Catch it once it's posted. Turn on Lawrence now if you can. On fire tonight
Jon Ossoff on after break and Elisa Slotkin.
ALBliberal
(3,492 posts)Starbeach
(413 posts)Hines on fire!!!
Amaryllis
(11,630 posts)chicoescuela
(3,443 posts)He will use the military to steal ballot boxes
yourout
(8,940 posts)chicoescuela
(3,443 posts)highplainsdem
(64,053 posts)Rep. Himes: "The president was setting the basis for him to turn around on election night and say, 'I warned you that the Chinese were doing x, y, and z. It happened tonight. I'm deploying federal officers from DHS to 7 states. They will be seizing ballot boxes.'"
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-07-17T02:22:08.551Z
summer_in_TX
(4,405 posts)I like Christopher Armitage's idea in THE EXISTENTIALIST REPUBLIC of blue states enacting trigger laws.
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We cannot vote our way out of a situation where the vote itself is the target. We cannot wait for 2026 to see if elections still work, because every month we wait is a month where the machinery of fair elections is being dismantled. By November 2026, we may discover that fair elections no longer exist. We need a credible weapon, established now, that changes the calculation.
Trigger laws do this. A trigger law is legislation passed in advance that establishes a specific red line and a specific automatic consequence if that line is crossed. The red line is public. The consequence is pre-committed. There is no ambiguity, no debate after the fact, no opportunity for normalization. Cross this line, and this happens.
The red line: the federal government decertifies state-approved voting equipment, deploys federal forces to polling places against state consent, refuses to certify legitimate state election results, or takes any action to cancel, delay, or invalidate a states elections. The state legislature and governor jointly determine when a trigger has been crossed.
The consequence: the state orders 90 day compliance for all employers in state to divert federal tax revenue to escrows pending restoration of legitimate democratic governance."
https://substack.com/home/post/p-181068816If You Steal Our Elections, You Don't Get Our Money
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California Is Making Ballot Seizure a Felony. States Can Do Even More to Protect Their Elections.
Elissa Slotkin said much the same on Lawrence tonight.
California's law making it illegal to seize ballots and voting machines is a start but not adequate because suing the federal government would take months, maybe years. The trigger law provides a much shorter timeframe and actual consequences, not theoretical ones that can be tied up in appeals.