and the sexist attacks against Clinton really piss me off.

Interesting observations. Thanks for posting.

(Sorry, I thought I responded to this OP earlier today.)

The more little tools on the internet try, with lies, half-truths, bullshit invective and false assertions, to shit on Clinton, the more I support her. The snide, dismissive and patently unfair remarks which have a goal to cut into her support instead have the opposite effect.

No one likes a nasty-ass, mean and cowardly bully--not just young female voters!

Not because supporters are winning me over with their positive posts about HRC but because the negative posts are just overwhelming and sometimes awfully petty. It's the pettiness that pisses me off the most. I've written more posts defending HRC since last Sunday than I ever thought I would.

Get a load of this--and sad to say, I've seen this kind of remark here (today, in fact), to my absolute horror:

http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/01/04/fox-news-graphic-rudov-clintons-nagging-voice-i/142056

asshole:

Marc Rudov, author of "Under the Clitoral Hood: How to Crank Her Engine Without Cash, Booze, or Jumper Cables"

That's why, when I see the kind of shit he spouts HERE, at DU, I take real umbrage. There's just no call for it. It's bigotry of the worst sort, and some resort to that when they can't express themselves cogently re: issues of policy.

I refused to listen to a word he said, said my piece loudly and clearly and hung up, his assistant called me back laughing begging me to talk to him again , she loved it, I refused, he's not worth it...

The only way to deal with those asses is to either tell them in no uncertain terms to go fook themselves, or to prank them and humilate them like some people do to Limp-baaaah. They don't come at conversations from a level playing field, so to hell with them.

The female that works with him despises him

I was thinking how I was not particularly a supporter, but not feel like one from defending her from BS "criticism." So maybe their efforts are failing.

repugs did the same for me clinton second term. because of them, i had to defend him and it pissed me off.

because you're pissed at her opponents is not a good reason to support a candidate.

One specific senator that looks like a turtle...

Michele Bachman crazy eyes...

Sarah Palin (about everything including her stripper boots)

The blatant RW talking points are strong among the board.

Its like some here want the party of war, religious persecution, civil rights violators, and downright bigotry to prevail.

at times when I have had doctors appointments and I am not even a Hillary supporter...........not opposed to her either just kinda ..........."meh" over her.

They probably helped her win the primary in that state.

Is right!!!!!

I hate it, and I'm hate how it's so normalized.

Any woman speaking forcefully on an issue is labeled "SHRILL."

just SEE these scared little boys grabbing their privates in fear that something will be taken from them.

this is what i was saying yesterday. we are all better quipped. we got this.

will do to misogynists.

Not, saying all who don't like her are.. but, there will be many who show their true nature and it ain't pretty.

I will try and put my 2 cents in.

As in those who don't like President Obama.. doesn't mean they're racist. But, a lot of the rwingers are..that and brainwashed. Not always easy to tell the difference online.

And, I was talking about rwingers when I mentioned misogynists in connection to Hillary. Just so we're clear.

without anything to back them up. why, just last night i read an op where here supporters immaturely ridiculed a picture of warren and some man having his hand on her ass. reality? on low count poster that was kicked off the board. probably lg.

that is far from hillary "fans"

hence, me asking for a link.

Then, of course, there's THIS:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/14/millennials-not-pro-hillary-clinton-but-anti-gop.htm

Thus dispelling the OTHER notion that you either love Hillary or love the GOP.

i might have missed .... love clinton or hate women. i dunno.

But some people see conspiracies and factions everywhere.

i can let this go.

Or perhaps you forgot the Obama vs Hillary Wars of 08.

I ran into it BIG TIME at, of all places, a child's birthday party recently.

They know I'm a big time Liberal and asked what I thought of Hillary.

i addressed the issues and my concerns.

really... garbage about puma and shit? nothing. i really do not give a shit about hyperbole.

fun is thinking, processing, listening, peeling the onion. not the game. i do not do the game. at all.

but



thanks for the deescalation.

I knew I had to support her. I'll never forget the look of disbelief on right-wingers faces when Obama won and it will be the same when Hillary wins. It will be priceless!

This is a difficult question for me as I enjoy going on conservative blogs and ripping them apart and fought them for many years. I enjoy automobile racing and root for Danica Patrick as she battles the male drivers who are always running into and hitting her car, but she continues on against the good old boys of nascar. Simona de Silvestro finished 4th in an indy car race last week and is 6th in points ,yet was still trying to get sponsorship to race this sunday in long beach indy car race and may not be able to race. I wish I had the answer to intimidation for others but I only get angry and aggressive with intimidators.

…be the reason I vote for her.

It's all about the issues and policy for me.

Will vote for her purely to vote against her Republican opponent. Not a very exciting reason.

Everyone sees her as courageous and such a fighter. But I don't. Oh—she'll fight tenaciously about protecting the Clinton name, or her place in history, or power, but she's kind of cowardly when it comes to standing up to Wall Street or big money or AIPAC. She's just another pol to me.

Who knows? Maybe this will mean they won't be able to breed.

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Many will also go into great detail as to how society gives women all of the power. When pressed that notion is based on the fact that women have the right to say, "No".

(Which is something MGTOWs used to hear a LOT before they gave up asking and called themselves MGTOWs.)

normally a cesspool of misogyny in this case was right on this money with

Women do not give a FUK about MGTOW. Why? Because it is 97% made up of low value losers who they would never want to be seen with anyways. If anything, women are thankful that they no longer have to be pestered by these low valued men.

The best part about this "movement" is how if you go to any sort of MGTOW forum or subreddit, the main focus of discussion is always on, wait for it, WOMEN! HA! "Time to go my own way by jerking off to girls i wish i could bang and discussing them 24/7 on the forums! MGTOW FTW!"

lmfao!

And it basically seems to me to be what we used to call "old bachelors."

But what is "red pill"?

The term man-child comes to mind also.

Seriously stop. I'm old.

MRA - Men's Rights Activist.

Same deal.... They blame their personal problems on emasculation, feminism, and the fact that they can't get laid.

Unintentional humor from someone who thinks they're being serious is the best.

then realized some disturbing parallels to the old kkk.
namely weird cultish shit, hiding behind internet anonymnity instead of that ridiculous costume.

makes me more sympathetic to hillary.
esp the ones who will not vote for her because is alleged lesbian.
that said I am uncomfortable with her ties to wall street and would like to see a more "true left" candidate get the nomination.
kind of resent that I should vote for woman because is woman.
but do plan to be rolling eyes real hard at upcoming mudslinging which these things always seem to devolve into. hillary doesn't deserve half the crap which is thrown her way.

Counter Hillary's record so they listen to FOX for clues I what to say. It is a form of filibuster, just keep blabbing about nothing and the time runs out. The GOP candidates are playing to their base but they do not have a platform.

where the thesis is "here's what I think this group thinks, and no I didn't ask." It's lazy at best.

It's also a backbone of feminist academic work that those with a platform should amplify that voices of less powerful people rather than speaking for them, so it's really odd that Valenti is assuming what young women voters think rather than asking and then quoting them.

I'd argue that assumptions about young women's votes that don't involve their opinions about policy matters sell them short and contribute to sexist narratives that assume young women are shallow.

90% of opinion pieces in papers are absolute junk. You do occasionally get the Paul Krugmans and Robert Reichs of the world, though.

I just can't bring myself to be all attacky like I would like to be. I am not a Hillary fan, but sure enough when conservatives or otherwise petty people attack it makes me more sympathetic to her and I do tend to be a defender of people I sympathize with.

like obama, she can let that shit slide. this is not small.

I'm voting Democrat, period.

Then I realized the constant attacks are working me, and I'm a middle aged woman. I've been paying closer attention to her actual record. I take every single criticism of the Senator with a grain of salt until I searched it myself. I'm eyerolling at hysterical OPs that have little substance in light of her actual record. I'm facing Cintons flaws head on and weighing them against her positive attributes. And I like what I'm seeing.

going to vote Democratic, period --

and having the same reaction to the attacks on Hllary.

The more petty or unfair attacks I see, the more I'm moved to defend her, the more I'm beginning to support her.

By the time she's in the general, I'll be there 100% .

If you want to mobilize anyone who has been discriminated against or marginalized due to race, gender or one of several other classes, demonstrate that you are marginalizing another member of that class right in front of them or publicly on TV/ in Media.

I voted for her in the 2008 primary. Obama already had is wrapped up by then and I really wanted to vote for a woman for POTUS, so I did. And I hope to again.

and disgust to vote in another corporatist. Maybe misogynists will motivate more women to support Hillary, but that's not really a good sign of the health of our democracy when you think about it.