i dunno

Can't think of any.

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I agree with most conservative opposition to the death penalty.

ETA: The passenger rail bailout under Nixon gave us Amtrak. That's worth considering.

Past that I got nothing..........

...as a way to "let poor working families keep more of what they've earned" in place of other forms of assistance.

And then they sneer at those same working families as "moochers" taking "handouts" when -- after taking all legal deductions and credits -- they have no income tax liability. See the "47% don't pay taxes" meme.

Obama care, since that lousy design came from the
Heritage Foundation, and a lot of Dems seem to like it.

(and Massachusetts Democrats are not known for their conservatism) than what Romney and the Heritage Foundation initially proposed.

Democrats changed Romney's proposal so much that he vetoed the bill that passed the legislature; only to have it passed over his veto.

Not even a little bit?

Creepy, yes, but mostly flatteting.

So, perhaps you can recall: when was I a Republican?

Held them yourself. I thought you'd like the opportunity to explain what the heck you were thinking? Have you ever explained what made you change parties? That would be interesting at least, as opposed to non/answering with a question about yourself.

Lol, I'm not sure I've ever gotten a straight answer and damned if I didn't think this was a pretty straightforward question.

for two years or so, I affiliated with the Republican Party, and why I fled. Your inability to use the search function is... interesting.

Unlike our current President, who by his own admission is a huge fan of "moderate" 1980s Republican policies (as I assume you are, due to your enormous support for him), I recognized that those policies were bankrupt decades ago.

Lol on the moderate republican clip. But, you were never much for context, were you?

Latching on to the "they're all the same" bullshit - typically used to discourage voters. The last 30 years of history has proved you wrong- in fact this thread proves you wrong. Oops.

Google works fine on phones for searching sites. If you're interested in finding facts before making accusations, you should look into it. Incredibly easy to do.

As for context... another LOL. I posted the video, the context could not be more clear.

And that's the closest I've ever gotten to a straight answer from you. thanks Manny!

Nixon gets a lot of credit for the EPA but it was a natural consequence of the society at that time. Let it be remembered that the environmental movement was huge back then, particularly with the publication of Silent Spring (the Clean Air Act passed the next year). Johnson was responsible for almost all of the enabling legislation. The EPA was merely Nixon putting all of the various splintered agencies or responsibilities under one umbrella.

So you can think up something and I think with only a little effort you can look at past Democratic administrations and see that the policy was a Democratic policy, at least for the past 100 years or so.

It gave us the Voting Rights Act of 1965, Medicare, and the Great Society. It's not exactly what you were trying to find, but it's the best I could do.

The national park system...that was Teddy

Breaking up monopolies, that was teddy.

The EPA. That was Nixon.

Now if you mean recently...actually one of my council members has good ideas regarding infrastructure. Nope, don't expect him to go any further. I don't think he is a good fit for the state party, and forget the national.

You asked.

Having seen The Roosevelts (several times, even), he really was a conservationist at heart.

But I don't give Nixon credit for the EPA. Johnson passed most of its enabling legislation. He just put them under one administration.

Nixon was a Republican, but I'm not sure that Conservatives would clain him.

A lot of the same factors we deal with today, but the different mixes and groupings affected things and tempered some of the outcomes.

Not to mention, the modern Movement Conservatism had the express goal of driving out those moderating elements and crushing the "Rockefeller Republican" wing.

In some ways if becomes a word-problem: what is a "conservative idea"? A lot of the ones that are front and center these days were from what had been the "ranting crank fringe" 50-60 years ago.

Conservatives score one.

Really.

If "worked" means putting more money and power into fewer hands, then many conservative policies have worked well. War is always a favorite.

Ah, but I misread the question. (Pre-coffee, I tend to scan too quickly) "For the 99%" puts a different spin on it.

-- Mal

I know it's not perfect but including prescription drugs in Medicare needed to be done.

that does something needed in about the most ineffective, expensive, and difficult to navigate possible and quite plausibly a poison pill that will eventually destroy Medicare if not seriously reformed?

Sure.

Not perfect in the needs some tinkering but a solid design to build from? Oh fuck no!

The thing is structurally toxic. Democrats to our credit have been able to polish the turd a little here and there, the low income subsidy and eventually closing the doughnut hole which are huge on the recipient side but the program design and limitations are cancerous.

CLINT C. GOLD
10/24/1999
Tulsa World

Not too long ago, my wife and I attended a TV football
party in south Tulsa. With a lopsided score, the
conversation turned to a livelier subject -- politics. The
crowd was, of course, top-heavy with Republicans. With each
point expressed their faces became more flushed, eyes
bulging a little more and veins popping in their foreheads
as they railed against the liberal programs.

Finally a lone, liberal voice asked: "Will you people
name me one bill your party ever passed to help the working
man of this country?" The question created much din and
clamor, and someone sputtered, "Well, what have the
Democrats done?"

The liberal responded with a few programs and was
interrupted by howling and disdain. He noted that he had
not promised they would like the programs and he asked to
complete his statement -- a difficult task to ask of
Republicans.

He spoke of Social Security; Medicare-Medicaid; Peace
Corps; unemployment insurance; welfare (for the poor and
corporate); civil rights; student grant and loan programs;
safety laws (OSHA); environmental laws; prevailing wage
laws; right to collective bargaining (which brought about
paid medical insurance, paid vacations, pensions, etc.);
workers" compensation; Marshall Plan; flood-disaster
insurance; School Lunch Program; women"s rights.

He spoke of the Fair Labor Standards Act, which
established a minimum wage, instituted child labor laws,
and set up time-and-a-half pay for over a 40-hour week.

He mentioned FHA-HUD with its public housing, urban
renewal and 44 million residential homes (before WWII
almost 70 percent of our nation were renters; by the 1970s
this had been reversed). And farm-conservation
subsidies -- USDA programs, Farmers Home Administration (the
bankers didn't want to make rural loans), small
flood-control lakes (more than 3,000 in Oklahoma alone),
rural water districts, rural electricity (REA).

The GI Bill was passed, which the Republicans at the
time bitterly opposed. They were salivating over millions
of returning veterans to hire as cheap labor. More than 8
million have used college benefits, creating millions of
entrepreneurs; most of us had never dreamed of college. For
the unemployed GI, there was $20 a week for 52 weeks to
help get started (a lot of money in those days). The
Veterans Administration provided more than 2 million home
loans.

For the bankers at the football party, it was pointed
out that the liberals saved their industry with the
creation of FDIC and FSLIC, insuring their deposits, and
saved Wall Street with the establishment of the Securities
Exchange Commission.

The oil men came on bended knees to FDR at a time when
East Texas oil was 4 cents a barrel and begged him to save
their industry. He did; prorationing overturned the rule of
capture and the days of flush production were over.
Prorating has served this great industry (and nation)
well.

And the list went on and on, but of course this group
didn't let him get halfway through. He noted they were
weary, inattentive, so again he challenged them to offer up
any Republican legislation examples.

I'm sure your party has authored one or two comparable
bills from time to time, but I can't think of any, and
apparently you can't either. What it boils down to is this:
the liberals dragged you into the 20th century scratching
and screaming with your heels in the mud, fighting anything
that"s progressive, everything that"s made this country
great. You Republicans have never understood that the
spending power of blue-collar workers, obtained through
Democrats and unions, is what really made this country
great. You really believe "The Good Life" was obtained from
your own endeavors. You cloak your greed in religion and
patriotism, railing against any form of tax, never
comprehending that these programs have benefited all of us
and our country."

Well, I almost didn't make it out of the house. My wife
and I didn't even get to see the end of the football game.

If Reps. Steve Largent or J.C. Watts had been there,
perhaps politics would never have come up, only the game
plan ... pity.

Clint C. Gold is former mayor of Moore and a retired
savings and loan executive.

elected office at any level.

This is a critical point, easy case to make. Don't know why they don't. Thom Hartmann does, every day.

am not sure that was a conservative program.