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Related: About this forumExpected DU downtime for maintenance: Thursday July 31, 1 PM ET (UPDATE)
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UPDATE: JULY 31, 2PM ETDowntime is over for now, and we have completed the updates that we needed to complete.
HOWEVER...
Due to the nature of this update, there is a fairly high potential for glitches and odd things to happen. Most of these glitches, should they occur, will be related to caching. Essentially, "old" data and instructions might still be left behind, even though the update has been performed. It's possible -- depending on the seriousness of the glitches -- that we will have to take the site down again and revert the changes that we've made.
If you experience any "weirdness" of any kind, please report it to me via email (earlg@democraticunderground.com). Email is better than DU Mail, just in case DU Mail is affected. When reporting any bugs or glitches, please do your best to explain the problem as explicitly as possible -- use as much detail as you can.
If we need to bring the site down again, it's likely that we will not post an announcement first -- the site will just become unavailable and you'll get the "DU is currently offline for maintenance" message. If we need to provide you with additional information, we'll do so through that message. Should something go seriously wrong, we'll update our social media pages with information.
Otherwise, we're hopeful that everything went according to plan and further action won't be necessary. I'll update you again once we're confident that things are stable.
(Note that non-Star Members will not see ads temporarily. We will be performing a brief code update to bring them back tomorrow morning -- enjoy it while it lasts!)
ORIGINAL MESSAGE
Hello everyone,
Sorry for the late notice, but DU will be down for maintenance for a few hours on Thursday.
Over the past year or so DU has seen a significant increase in bot traffic -- particularly AI scrapers -- which don't produce any ad revenue but do significantly increase our server costs. This has been a real struggle for many independent websites, and an existential crisis for some. Tomorrow's downtime is part of an effort to mitigate that problem.
We will also be making a change to the way ads are loaded on DU, although this should not (if everything works correctly) make any difference to non-Star Members who are already seeing ads. It should provide a couple of fixes for Star Members -- for example, you should no longer see things like the random cookie banner which I know has been an annoyance for some people.
We do not know how much downtime will be required. We're thinking maybe 2-3 hours, although hopefully it will be quicker. If anything goes wrong -- which unfortunately is always a possibility when doing things like this -- we may need to revert the changes, which might mean additional downtime.
If we determine that the downtime is going to take significantly longer than expected, I'll update people by posting on our Facebook page and on our Bluesky page.
https://www.facebook.com/democraticunderground
https://bsky.app/profile/demunderground.bsky.social
I may also send an email out to our mailing list. If you are not already on the mailing list, you can join here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=contact
Finally, just to head off any questions about why we don't do this in the middle of the night, we've found that in the event we need tech support from any of the third parties involved in this process, we can get it much faster during regular business hours. I apologize for the inconvenience, but it's just better for us to do it this way. We hope the downtime will be brief and everything will be back to normal quickly.
Thanks for reading!
-- EG

niyad
(126,434 posts)are the best!
And now I have a good excuse to run errands!
marble falls
(67,651 posts)MontanaMama
(24,527 posts)I guess I have to leave my house today after all!
marble falls
(67,651 posts)malaise
(288,278 posts)😀
Rhiannon12866
(241,475 posts)


Bernardo de La Paz
(57,747 posts)BOSSHOG
(43,620 posts)No need for apology. You are like our BASF. You not only make our DU, you make our DU better.
sheshe2
(93,347 posts)2naSalit
(97,620 posts)
Alice Kramden
(2,754 posts)Much appreciation for all you do
hlthe2b
(111,104 posts)orangecrush
(26,356 posts)For keeping the wheels turning!

highplainsdem
(57,891 posts)everyone here dazzled by ChatGPT or Gemini or any other generative AI model would stop to think that the harm they do includes increasing costs for websites like yours.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,109 posts)My knowledge of AI could fit on the head of a pin, but if this is good for DU, I'm all for doing whatever it is.
LearnedHand
(4,950 posts)And thanks for all you do to keep the blinky lights on.
George McGovern
(8,984 posts)immeasurably over the past few years. Especially I appreciate being part of the Jury and being asked my opinion; which I had thought, was supposed to be part of democracy. I have been blessed by new and loyal friendships through your wonderful enterprise.
Sincerely,
George McGovern (AKA Allan Herzig)
blogslug
(38,977 posts)May all go well. 🫡
JoseBalow
(8,235 posts)
FemDemERA
(561 posts)would be much appreciated, for those of us who don't do any other social sites but DU If time doesn't permit that, well, I always just figure it will be up when its up and won't panic, LOL.
usaf-vet
(7,655 posts)I'm glad it is them and not me I spent my 20 plus years in network server support.
Good Luck Gentalmen!
mwmisses4289
(1,954 posts)It'll be a good time for some of us to take a nap, eh?😃😴
dgauss
(1,421 posts)is your willingness to take the time to explain things like this.
surfered
(8,755 posts)AllaN01Bear
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marble falls
(67,651 posts)CaptainTruth
(7,854 posts)
Cha
(313,846 posts)to keep this Valuable site running Smoothly, EG!
Alice Kramden
(2,754 posts)For ALL your efforts in the background
FemDemERA
(561 posts)
CaptainTruth
(7,854 posts)Response to EarlG (Original post)
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malaise
(288,278 posts)flawless.
Thank you.