China says Taiwan is 'not Ukraine' as island raises alert level
Source: Reuters
BEIJING/TAIPEI, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Taiwan is "not Ukraine" and has always been an inalienable part of China, China's foreign ministry said on Wednesday, as Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen called for the island to beef up vigilance on military activities in response to the crisis.
The comments come after British Prime Minister Boris Johnson flagged the risk for Taiwan in a warning last week about the damaging worldwide consequences if Western nations failed to fulfil their promises to support Ukraine's independence.
China, which claims Taiwan as its own territory, has stepped up military activity near the self-governing island over the past two years, though Taiwan has reported no recent unusual manoeuvres by Chinese forces as tension over Ukraine has spiked.
Speaking in Beijing, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying dismissed any link between the issues of Ukraine and Taiwan.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwan-says-must-raise-alertness-over-ukraine-crisis-2022-02-23/
Thanks to JHB for this toon.


Irish_Dem
(76,127 posts)China will get Taiwan sooner or later.
And they are closely watching how the Ukraine situation works out.
Martin68
(26,544 posts)Irish_Dem
(76,127 posts)To do so it must demonstrate regional power and control.
So it must get Taiwan back for that purpose.
On an emotional level, China feels Taiwan is a province stolen from them. And they want it back. And they could do it quickly before the US has time to get involved.
China has greatly built up its military forces and could take back Taiwan at some point.
The global powers are shifting. The western democracies are greatly weakened and Russia and China are making their moves.
Irish_Dem
(76,127 posts)Laying the ground work for their invasion of Taiwan.
Martin68
(26,544 posts)The West is not as weak as you suggest. Russia is very vulnerable to economic sanctions and China faces numerous potential domestic crises. China's plan to dominate the China Sea has not worked out very well in spite of the small bases they have established on hastily constructed "islands" off the shores of neighboring countries.
Irish_Dem
(76,127 posts)And are willing to take action to claim global superiority.
China will get there, Russia I don't know about.
Martin68
(26,544 posts)China is a bigger question mark.
Irish_Dem
(76,127 posts)And we are still in the beginning act of Russia's playbook.
China wins either way. It ether learns from Russia's mistakes or builds upon Russia's wins.
Martin68
(26,544 posts)"soft power," but if they invade Taiwan, that investment will be for nought. Particularly after what they've done in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Hong Kong. China studied the aftermath of the USSR's demise, hoping to avoid a similar debacle. Now they are keeping a calculated distance from Putin by declaring that Taiwan is different from Ukraine.
Irish_Dem
(76,127 posts)The only reason to accrue so much soft power is to allow for hard power to be used, to get the things it really wants.
What is the point of having capital if you don't spend it at some point?
If they are going to be a global superpower they will have to make a big show of force.
Yes their current stance is about distancing from Russia but also laying the groundwork for taking Taiwan. It is their territory, stolen from them.
So they will say.
Martin68
(26,544 posts)China can't have their cake and eat it too.
EarlG
(23,208 posts)Of course China continues to claim that Taiwan is an "an inalienable part of China" because that's been their position all along. But by stating that Taiwan and Ukraine are different, they're implying that Ukraine is not an inalienable part of Russia -- in other words, they are not supporting Putin's land grab. Is that the implication here?
Tom Rinaldo
(23,165 posts)It would definitely seem that China rejects the Russian claim that Ukraine is not a fully sovereign nation. However there can be other rationals advanced for why one nation sends forces into another, other than rejecting their claim of independent sovereignty. This Chinese statement is silent on whether or not Russian claims of genocide against Russian speakers inside Ukraine have any merit, for example.
BeyondGeography
(40,697 posts)It also sounds like a pre-sell for a more supportive global reaction. Good luck with that.
Javaman
(64,637 posts)then I will believe them. until that time, this is just more of their spin that they have always put on their belief that Taiwan has always been part of china
EarlG
(23,208 posts)I doubt they want to be seen doing much at all. But it seems like by saying, "Ukraine is different, because our claim to Taiwan is legitimate," that's a subtle indication that they are not going to publicly back the Russian invasion. Which is probably the best we can hope for at this point.
Martin68
(26,544 posts)Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)Saying that Taiwan is not like the eastern parts of Ukraine in which the people of the region can decide to separate from Ukraine and ultimately join Russia. Basically that what is good for Russia over there doesn't apply to China and Taiwan. I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect that's where it's going.
Martin68
(26,544 posts)indigenous peoples.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(129,649 posts)China never gave a shit about Taiwan till Portugal and I think Spain established colonies there.
AntiFascist
(13,680 posts)especially now that Russia's military forces are elsewhere.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)If I am doing my math correctly, then I think the answer comes out to be zero.
Igel
(37,138 posts)So Xi would say there's a lot of room for error, objectively speaking.