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LetMyPeopleVote

(159,681 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:17 AM 8 hrs ago

Russia says it does not want a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine

Source: Financial Times

Russia does not want a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine and is pushing for a long-term peace settlement that will take into account its interests and concerns, a senior aide to Vladimir Putin has said.

Yuri Ushakov, the Russian president’s foreign policy adviser, told state television on Thursday that the 30-day ceasefire proposed after talks between the US and Ukraine this week was “nothing other than a temporary breather for Ukrainian troops”.

“Nobody needs steps that imitate peaceful actions in this situation,” Ushakov said, adding that Moscow “hopes [the US] knows our position and wants to believe that they will take it into account as we work together going forward”.

Russia’s rejection of the US proposal aligned with Putin’s hardline stance ahead of high-level talks later on Thursday in Moscow, where Steve Witkoff, US President Donald Trump’s special envoy to the Middle East, has landed.


Read more: https://www.ft.com/content/c169189c-4642-4037-b64f-9631ac61a7c7




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Russia says it does not want a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago OP
Here are Putin's conditions for a cease-fire LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #1
These terms are untenable angrychair 5 hrs ago #13
Of course they are... WinstonSmith4740 2 hrs ago #25
Putin already has the US. Irish_Dem 2 hrs ago #26
Russia lays out demands for talks with US on Ukraine, sources say LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #2
Because of course it doesn't. Hey, magats, still believe Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #3
Russia sure expects a lot being the war criminals they are mdbl 7 hrs ago #4
I say no ceasefire until BOTH agree. bluestarone 7 hrs ago #5
You can want in one hand and sh*t in another... same effect NotHardly 6 hrs ago #6
I'm encouraged that they are at least talking about peace hueymahl 6 hrs ago #7
He can't wait to take Moldova...... wolfie001 6 hrs ago #9
Respectfully, that is a simplistic take hueymahl 5 hrs ago #15
For similar reasons. Transnistria is a breakaway province loyal to Russia IronLionZion 4 hrs ago #20
Really? Putin is a Murderous Bully. The Ukrainians sure darn Care that He Invaded their Country, and Stole their land... electric_blue68 3 hrs ago #23
Ukraine and Russia have a complicated history. yellowdogintexas 46 min ago #29
Conditions Are Not Ripe For A Peace Agreement DallasNE 6 hrs ago #8
Both Moscow and St. Petersburg need to be targeted regularly wolfie001 6 hrs ago #10
How about Russia abiding by a treat they signed with Ukraine in 1990's. republianmushroom 6 hrs ago #11
Well that was a gimmie.................... turbinetree 5 hrs ago #12
LOL Nasruddin 5 hrs ago #14
Putin likely doesn't want Traitor47 to get the credit if the war ends. pandr32 4 hrs ago #17
Putin will not agree to ceasefire LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #16
"Trump says he can end the war in one day " LudwigPastorius 4 hrs ago #18
Gee i thought trumpy Figarosmom 4 hrs ago #19
TOLD YA. If Ukraine survives this war somehow, it would domestically destroy the Putin-regime in Russia. DetlefK 4 hrs ago #21
Neither do I. I don't want ANYTHING negotiated by ... dchill 4 hrs ago #22
Ukraine's best and final offer should be: GTFO NOW and then pay us to rebuild our country. OMGWTF 3 hrs ago #24
and markie 1 hr ago #27
Sky News calls Putin out for his Ceasefire scam. LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #28

LetMyPeopleVote

(159,681 posts)
1. Here are Putin's conditions for a cease-fire
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:20 AM
8 hrs ago
https://www.ft.com/content/c169189c-4642-4037-b64f-9631ac61a7c7
Putin has demanded that Ukraine recognise Russia’s annexation of four partially occupied south-eastern regions and the Crimean peninsula, withdraw its troops from those areas and pledge to never join Nato as preconditions for the ceasefire.

Russia is also pushing for caps on Ukraine’s military, protections for Russian speakers in the country and fresh elections to replace President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

It has demanded an effective rollback of Nato’s eastward expansion since the cold war, which Putin has claimed forced him to order his invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

angrychair

(10,288 posts)
13. These terms are untenable
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 11:25 AM
5 hrs ago

Neither Ukraine nor Europe nor should the US, agree to these terms. They are neither serious or realistic.
It's losing this war and wants to steal huge portions of Ukraine with little guarantee that we won't be right back at war in another couple of years.
Screw Russia. NATO needs to create an immediate no fly zone over Ukraine.

You don't stop a bully but giving him more of a reason to be a bully. You bunch that motherfucker in the mouth.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,251 posts)
25. Of course they are...
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 02:44 PM
2 hrs ago
These terms are untenable
Putin no more wants peace that he wants to step down as dictator. This will be like the cease fire in Palestine...there will always be a last minute dissent & it won't happen. Putin doesn't want peace...he never has. Want he wants is complete domination over the world, and Trump is too stupid to realize if we give him Europe, he'll come after us next.

LetMyPeopleVote

(159,681 posts)
2. Russia lays out demands for talks with US on Ukraine, sources say
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:47 AM
8 hrs ago

Putin wants Ukraine to surrender
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-lays-out-demands-talks-with-us-ukraine-sources-say-2025-03-13/

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON March 12 (Reuters) - Russia has presented the U.S. with a list of demands for a deal to end its war against Ukraine and reset relations with Washington, according to two people familiar with the matter.

It is not clear what exactly Moscow included on its list or whether it is willing to engage in peace talks with Kyiv prior to their acceptance. Russian and American officials discussed the terms during in-person and virtual conversations over the last three weeks, the people said.

They described the Kremlin's terms as broad and similar to demands it previously has presented to Ukraine, the U.S. and NATO.
Those earlier terms included no NATO membership for Kyiv, an agreement not to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine and international recognition of President Vladimir Putin's claim that Crimea and four provinces belong to Russia.

Russia, in recent years, also has demanded the U.S. and NATO address what it has called the "root causes" of the war, including NATO's eastward expansion.

Scrivener7

(54,515 posts)
3. Because of course it doesn't. Hey, magats, still believe
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 09:03 AM
7 hrs ago

your creepy messiah will end the war in a day?

Of course you do. That's how incredibly stupid you are.

mdbl

(5,906 posts)
4. Russia sure expects a lot being the war criminals they are
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 09:44 AM
7 hrs ago

Kind of like a murderer telling you to apologize to them after they kill you.

hueymahl

(2,762 posts)
7. I'm encouraged that they are at least talking about peace
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 10:28 AM
6 hrs ago

This war has killed or maimed an entire generation. At this point I don't care much about who is at fault or why it started. I just want it to end.

wolfie001

(4,239 posts)
9. He can't wait to take Moldova......
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 10:58 AM
6 hrs ago

.....after any appeasement. Then it's on to the Baltics. After the war criminal accomplishes that, there will be others. Romania, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, etc. etc.

hueymahl

(2,762 posts)
15. Respectfully, that is a simplistic take
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 11:31 AM
5 hrs ago

Ukraine-Russia has its own unique issues that does not translate to other regions. I'm not saying your scenario could never happen, but it is far more complicated and nuanced than the domino theory inherited from the cold war.

IronLionZion

(48,013 posts)
20. For similar reasons. Transnistria is a breakaway province loyal to Russia
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 12:53 PM
4 hrs ago

so Putin could invade claiming to "liberate" them from Moldova, the poorest country in Europe.

electric_blue68

(20,237 posts)
23. Really? Putin is a Murderous Bully. The Ukrainians sure darn Care that He Invaded their Country, and Stole their land...
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 01:13 PM
3 hrs ago
Should the majority of Ukrainians in the free part of the country want it to end that's another story. I think it's their sovereign choice. I'd go with their wishes.

Come talk to the Ukrainian-Americans in Little Ukraine/ The East Village in NYC (biggest community in the USA), and see what they say, and nineties hear from their relatives back there.

Sure, I'd like to end but on fair terms.
And screw Goon Putin for demanding President Zelenskyy be replaced.

yellowdogintexas

(23,104 posts)
29. Ukraine and Russia have a complicated history.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 04:16 PM
46 min ago

Russia first invaded Ukraine during Catherine the Great's reign.
The borders have changed in both directions over the centuries.

The worst happened in the 1930s when Russia began their collective farming, which resulted in a widespread man made famine in which millions died; Ukraine was the hardest hit because the Russians withheld the farmers's portion of the collective harvest because they wanted to suppress Ukraine's independence and resistance. . This period is known as the Holodomor. https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/the-history-of-the-holodomor/
I have read a couple of books about the Holodomor and it was horrible. Ukraine has not forgotten.

DallasNE

(7,711 posts)
8. Conditions Are Not Ripe For A Peace Agreement
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 10:54 AM
6 hrs ago

I have been saying that for several months now. Trump is wasting time with this effort that parallels Vietnam where talks lingered for 2 years until conditions got ripe for a North Vietnam takeover. What Ukraine needs is better weapons, including better air defenses and longer range weapons capable of inflicting major damage on Moscow. Either Ukraine wins or Ukraine loses. It is that binary.

wolfie001

(4,239 posts)
10. Both Moscow and St. Petersburg need to be targeted regularly
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 11:00 AM
6 hrs ago

It's the only route to beating Ivan the Butcher.

republianmushroom

(19,003 posts)
11. How about Russia abiding by a treat they signed with Ukraine in 1990's.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 11:02 AM
6 hrs ago

Treaties and agreement don't mean a damn thing to Russia. To hell with Russia.

turbinetree

(25,840 posts)
12. Well that was a gimmie....................
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 11:20 AM
5 hrs ago

hey traitor what's your next move...............you going to lift sanctions against Russia............because Ukraine didn't go far enough...........with your logic.................

pandr32

(12,713 posts)
17. Putin likely doesn't want Traitor47 to get the credit if the war ends.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 12:09 PM
4 hrs ago

Putin wants to say he found a solution and ended it, but on terms favorable to Russia. It would make Russia more formidable and help his plans going forward.

DetlefK

(16,594 posts)
21. TOLD YA. If Ukraine survives this war somehow, it would domestically destroy the Putin-regime in Russia.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 12:54 PM
4 hrs ago

Russia cannot accept any scenario in which an independent Ukraine remains. Putin started this war precisely to END Ukraine as an independent sovereign nation and return it to its status as a powerless vassal of Russia.

LetMyPeopleVote

(159,681 posts)
28. Sky News calls Putin out for his Ceasefire scam.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 03:34 PM
1 hr ago



BREAKING: Sky News calls Putin out for his Ceasefire scam.

He's still requiring that no western troops give Ukraine security guarantees.

He's still requiring the international community to recognize the stolen land he took from Ukraine as Russia's.

He's still requiring that NATO back off.

If you can't see what Putin is doing here, you are blind. He is only going to make a deal if that deal means he can easily do this all over again whenever he wants.
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