I’m not holding my breath. What seemed reliable in the past is in the past.

Trump has control of the police, FBI, military the longer we wait, the more impossible the task of executing any of laws to impeach or imprison these criminals in office. The republican members of congress are just as guilty as the leaders of this insurrection. They will never vote to impeach, cause the next step is prosecuting the members behind trump. These criminals know that.

I am not saying he doesn't deserve it but unless we really have the votes in the Senate in hand, going down this road is a mistake IMHO. There are those voters who will defend Trump to the last. No reason to give them a reason to vote in the midterms when they may otherwise stay home.

I mean, it's a fact that no impeachment has ever removed a president from office via the senate. But It shouldn't mean the house can't at least take a stand on fundamentals and principles. If democrats don't appear to be fighting the good fight, it may cost them votes with people who see Trump as the anathema to everything this country stands for, which he is.

based on principles?


Do the math.

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We can all clearly see they care nothing about that sort of thing. But I still think impeaching Trump should be done (WHEN THE DEMOCRATS RETAKE CONGRESS, OBVIOUSLY). The actions he has taken already warrant it.

It’s Republicans. Impeachment requires a majority.

I guess I have to be VERY specific in order for some folks to understand the obvious. That's a shame.

Fantasy.

Obvious things ought to be obvious.

I wish he were a lot louder

get it cooking

Waiting for elections is a losing game.

We don’t have a majority in the house or the senate.

I want them to be an example of courage and moral fortitude.

I want them on the record as being on the right side of history.

Whether or not it can actually happen is immaterial.

People react positively when they see their representatives take an action, even if it is unsuccessful or can't succeed.

we will not last until Jan. '27..... what is happening is more than serious

we need push back and results

Articles of impeachment in the House every week until the planned midterm.

oo boy 🤞

Definitely looked wrong.

I run my Firefox at 90% magnification. this was one if the few SHORT headlines!

Definitely wouldn't want that last word removed!

(as I understand it, the columns are dynamic and adjust depending on which mode you use (I use Skinner Mode) and any zooming)

Ah, the fun and games of web design and browsers.

My favorite joke, and may I tell it for a very long time:

A Black man and a Jewish man walk into a bar in Georgia.

The bartender asks them:

"What'll it be, SENATORS?"

Ain't GA grand!

You could mention it to EarlG (I think there might be a DU4 bug thread somewhere).

"Sometimes I wake up grumpy. Sometimes I let him sleep in."

and would, if the House weren't cram packed with Republican marshmallows Ditto the Senate.

One branch of government creating an agency out of thin air whose sole purpose is to undo the work of one, possibly two, other branches of government should not stand. "Abuse of poser" is how this bunch of wrecking balls roll, and it should not be allowed to persist.

Musk will never see a day in jail, but I will be happy to see his fortune bled off by theft,boycotts, and innovations by offshore companies that leave his cutting edge tech in the dust. We won't see it onshore until he and his fellow billionaires are no longer able to stifle it her.e.

The moves required would have involved some risk, anything worth doing usually does. We saw his first term disaster, he was impeached twice, and he was pronounced as an existential threat to democracy when he instigated and carried our an insurrection.

Within the power of the Democrats who held a slim majority in both houses, was the ability to amend the judiciary act to increase the number of seats on the Supreme Court, which would have allowed Biden to appoint justices respecting the rule of law. To get that through the senate would have required eliminating the filibuster. Both of those were risky, but both were the only options available, and I think the risk was well worth preventing the outcome we now have, of Trump getting back to the White House. Don't you?

Once the court was packed, they could have cut through his delays, gotten his insurrection trial underway. I've heard legal experts say that with the evidence Congress provided in their investigation, a mountain of it, the Supreme Court could have taken the case and ruled on it themselves, along with the documents case against him. He goes to prison, but more importantly, is no longer eligible to run for public office. The court would also never have issued the immunity ruling that they did. And we would have saved Roe. In fact, neutralizing the corrupt justices on the court might have pushed them to resign.

Why did we not accomplish this? Because the old line Democrats who still think compromise across the aisle works, thought it would "look political." And old line Democrats in the Senate, Schumer, Durbin, sided with Biden in not wanting to get rid of the filibuster. That was more important to them than saving America's democracy.

I was blasted here for my continuous support of it, often feeling alone. Without it though, we would all be in deep trouble right now with 53 Republicans. Since it would be a simple majority, they would have just repealed a new Voting Rights Act and/or the codification of Roe.

which is what many Democrats were asking for, was a "carve-out" for certain legislation to be permitted to pass with a simple majority (not unlike the reconciliation process), and the rest (e.g. budget-related or general regulatory items) would still require the cloture process.

But like anything else, laws can be "enacted" and then "repealed". Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

That is the normal process anyway.

Two questions for you though. Had that happened, who in your opinion would be President today? Let's assume it's Ron DeSantis. With the Republicans in control of the Senate again, and furious that we added 4 more or so new Justices, wouldn't they just counter with 4, 6, or even 8 more of their own? How would we prevent that?

I'm not at all saying that I disagree with you, I'm just curious what would have happened.

There should not be a single congressperson calling for Trumps's impeachment.

It should be 100% of Democrats in Congress. Hell, it should be 100% of all people in congress... Lol; a man can dream, no?

through the list of grievances against King George in the Declaration of Independence.... the acts that caused us to rebel and break free to begin.... trump is quickly acting out those grievances in real time.... time to rebel again, I guess

I like it. Hope it means his internals are telling him to go for it.

Good luck getting the crooks and liars in the GOP House and Senate to go along. Criminals protect each other.