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BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:05 AM Saturday

Trump DOJ wants Supreme Court to bring down hammer on gun rules

Source: USA Today

July 19, 2025, 5:04 a.m. ET


WASHINGTON − After the Supreme Court in 2022 made it harder to restrict who can arm themselves in public, some states took a different approach.

Five Democrat-led, mostly densely populous states passed laws that prohibit bringing a handgun onto someone else’s property without that person’s express consent.

Now the Trump administration wants the Supreme Court to declare that such rules in Hawaii, California, New York, Maryland and New Jersey violate the Constitution.

“The United States has a substantial interest in the preservation of the right to keep and bear arms and in the proper interpretation of the Second Amendment,” Solicitor General John Sauer wrote in explaining why the Department of Justice wants the high court to weigh in. That’s not the only example of how the change in administrations is affecting litigation over gun regulations.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/19/trump-supreme-court-gun-regulations/85243201007/

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Kid Berwyn

(21,339 posts)
1. Why would thuh MAGANAZIGOP want to do that?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:11 AM
Saturday
Growing body of evidence shows GOP has a paramilitary wing



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215237077

That was DU 2021, when we had BOTH houses of Congreff….a real shame we didn’t do something when we had the ability to do something.

BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
4. "a real shame we didn't do something when we had the ability to do something."
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:18 AM
Saturday

We DID do something (in fact, a couple of somethings) -

Biden signs gun safety bill into law


Updated June 25, 20229:19 AM ET

By Don Clyde, Shauneen Miranda


President Biden on Saturday signed into law the first major gun safety legislation passed by Congress in nearly 30 years.

The signing comes just over a month after the mass shooting at a Texas elementary school killed 19 children and two adults. That attack came 10 days after a racist mass shooting at a Buffalo, N.Y., supermarket killed 10 Black people.

"While this bill doesn't do everything I want, it does include actions I've long called for that are going to save lives," Biden said just before signing the measure. "Today, we say more than enough. We say more than enough," he added. "At a time when it seems impossible to get anything done in Washington, we are doing something consequential."

The legislation, which passed the House 234-193 Friday night following Senate approval Thursday, includes incentives for states to pass so-called red flag laws that allow groups to petition courts to remove weapons from people deemed a threat to themselves or others.

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There was something else that was slid onto either an appropriations bill or one of the reconciliation bills (was trying to find it).

What the OP article is talking about is 45's whining about STATE laws. He only wants "states rights" for red states and wants to go after blue states that enact common sense gun regulation.

Kid Berwyn

(21,339 posts)
7. That is something, but not what I was talking about.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:46 AM
Saturday


I'm talking about the traitor trump, the insurrection to overthrow the Constitution he led, and the various capital offenses affiliated with the top secret documents he stole as he left office. To me, that was job one. That we had two years where Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Executive would have "trumped" any additional treasons SCROTUS could have come up with.

BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
9. You can thank the SAME person who opened up gun proliferation (with Scalia)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:46 PM
Saturday

and who today protects 45 - JOHN ROBERTS.

How John Roberts Has Empowered a Lawless Presidency

To this fucking day, he is STILL protecting him. There was NOTHING any Democrat could do because it would eventually be thwarted by Roberts.

It's time to stop wholesale blaming Democrats and blame the GOP and their lackeys on the SCOTUS.

Kid Berwyn

(21,339 posts)
10. Thanks! FTR: I've been bringing him up on DU from Day 1.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:20 PM
Saturday

DU February 7, 2012:

Know your BFEE: John Roberts earned his Sgt. Pepper stripes as an Iran-Contra cover-up artiste.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1002281926

Put the lime in the coconut and notice how the offshoring of wealth by the wealthy gets ignored.



CLARENCE THOMAS BILLIONAIRE BENEFACTOR HARLAN CROW BOUGHT CITIZENSHIP IN ISLAND TAX HAVEN

Leaked documents reveal the GOP megadonor held dual citizenship in St. Kitts and Nevis as he lavished the Supreme Court justice with gifts.


Jason Paladino, Ken Klippenstein
The Intercept, April 25 2023

Excerpts…

The documents were leaked from Henley and Partners, a London-based firm known for assisting the ultra-wealthy in obtaining “golden passports,” which allow the holders to shield assets from their home country’s tax authorities. The firm advertises itself as “the global leader in residence and citizenship by investment” and has been shown to do business with controversial clients. An Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project investigation using the leaked documents reported that the firm was working with a rogues’ gallery of accused financial criminals from around the world. An investigative journalism collaboration, also based on the leaked trove of Henley documents, reported that oligarchs, fugitives, and sanctioned businesspeople were among the clients seeking foreign passports. The passports, granted in 2012, would expire after 10 years unless renewed. It’s unclear if the Crow family renewed them last year.

The revelation of Crow’s history as a dual citizen of a nation considered to be one of the world’s most secretive tax havens raises new questions about the lavish, undisclosed gifts to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, first revealed by ProPublica. On Monday, Senate Finance Committee Chair Ron Wyden, D-Ore., sent a letter to Crow seeking evidence that Crow “complied with all relevant federal tax and ethics laws,” something his dual-citizen status is sure to complicate.

“The American public deserves a full accounting of the full extent of your largesse towards Justice Thomas, including whether these gifts complied with all relevant federal tax and ethics laws,” Wyden wrote to Crow, demanding answers to detailed questions about whether he complied with IRS gift tax rules by May 8. St. Kitts and Nevis passport holders are not subject to a gift tax.

Even among tax havens, St. Kitts and Nevis is considered high risk by regulators, once even appearing on a Financial Stability Forum list of countries that were “non-cooperative” with global efforts to fight money laundering and financial crime. In 2018, the European Union moved the nation to a list of “non-cooperative jurisdictions,” citing its “harmful preferential tax regime.” A 2018 investigation in The Guardian dubbed it “the world’s most secretive offshore haven.” Even when tens of thousands of St. Kitts and Nevis business documents appeared in the “Paradise Papers” leak, company ownership was still hidden because the jurisdiction keeps so little information filed.

“International business tycoons and politicians, who have looted the assets of their nations — and other high wealth individuals — have used the dubious network of offshore tax havens across the world, which includes St. Kitts and Nevis, to hide their assets and income,” said Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., ranking member of the House Judiciary subcommittee overseeing courts.

Continues…

https://theintercept.com/2023/04/25/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-citizenship-st-kitts/



And his wife, Jane, that cash cow of jurisprudence:



'They come to me': Jane Roberts’ legal recruiting work involved officials whose agencies had cases before the Supreme Court

In newly revealed testimony, Jane Roberts, the wife of Chief Justice John Roberts said she worked for “U.S. attorneys, cabinet officials, former senators” and more.

By HAILEY FUCHS and JOSH GERSTEIN
Politico, 01/31/2023

EXCERPT...

Jane Roberts’ placements included at least one firm with a prominent Supreme Court practice, according to the complaint, which also includes sworn testimony from Roberts herself, in which she notes the powerful officials — whose agencies have had frequent cases before her husband — for whom she has worked.

“A significant portion of my practice on the partner side is with senior government lawyers, ranging from U.S. attorneys, cabinet officials, former senators, chairmen of federal commissions, general counsel of federal commissions, and then senior political appointees within the ranks of various agencies, and I -- they come to me looking to transition to the private sector,” Roberts said, according to a transcript of a 2015 arbitration hearing related to her former colleague’s termination.

In her testimony, Roberts also noted the benefit of working with senior government officials: “Successful people have successful friends.”

Continues…

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/31/jane-roberts-legal-recruiting-work-agencies-cases-supreme-court-00080515





"They come to me." -- Mrs. Jane Roberts, wife of Chief Justice John Roberts

no_hypocrisy

(52,340 posts)
2. Great. Make all 50 states and U.S. territories the Wild, Wild West
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:12 AM
Saturday

Anarchy, no valid law enforcement, vigilantism, self-defense for all murder accusations.

Criminals being allowed in court to argue they legally had the right to carry unregistered weapons.

Children bringing loaded weapons to school to use on classmates, teachers, and principals.

All because of the 2d Amendment's alleged right to bear arms.

cstanleytech

(27,770 posts)
3. He's awfully pro gun for a person who's ear was 'injured' is an supposed assassination attempt.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:51 AM
Saturday

SunSeeker

(56,164 posts)
6. The 2024 Republican Convention banned guns inside the premises. So that was unconstitutional?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:35 AM
Saturday

The next GOP convention should be a hoot.

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