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BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:49 AM 19 hrs ago

Trump hosted party for 'young women' where Epstein was the only guest: New York Times

Source: Raw Story

July 19, 2025 7:51PM ET


Donald Trump once hosted a party featuring "young women" where Jeffrey Epstein "was the only other guest," the New York Times reported over the weekend.

In an article titled "Inside the Long Friendship Between Trump and Epstein," Alan Feuer and Matthew Goldstein write that, "For nearly 15 years, the two men socialized together in Manhattan and Palm Beach, Fla., before a falling out that preceded Mr. Epstein’s first arrest." Part of that article contains an interesting anecdote about the party.

According to the report, "when Mr. Trump hosted a party at Mar-a-Lago for young women in a so-called calendar girl competition, Mr. Epstein was the only other guest." The report cites George Houraney, a Florida-based businessman who arranged the event.

"Mr. Houraney recalled being surprised that Mr. Epstein was the only other person on the guest list," the report states before quoting the man. “I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s,” Mr. Houraney told The New York Times in 2019. “You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-party-vip-epstein-guest/

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Trump hosted party for 'young women' where Epstein was the only guest: New York Times (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 19 hrs ago OP
PERVERTS Skittles 19 hrs ago #1
Chump had a lot of "friends" in those days FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #32
Birds of a feather.... Sogo 12 hrs ago #48
Trump, Epstein, young girls, cocaine, high end booze. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #2
It is all so weird, Hornedfrog2000 19 hrs ago #3
I am watching them do the same "strategy" BumRushDaShow 18 hrs ago #5
This! FailureToCommunicate 17 hrs ago #8
No doubt. I wouldn't be surprised the MSM owners want the unpredictable trump out, and vance in because lostincalifornia 17 hrs ago #10
This. But as usual, they fail to take into account that Vance already has an owner. YodaMom2 13 hrs ago #42
It was intentional. They MSM had to be aware of this for years, yet they choose to remain relatively quiet lostincalifornia 17 hrs ago #9
It's a tipping point phenomenon, not anything like "a switch" or the media "decides". Also, fickleness of public is a fa Bernardo de La Paz 17 hrs ago #18
Post removed Post removed 15 hrs ago #25
Ah yes, time to invoke the convenient PTB, the mysterious "they" who control all everything. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 14 hrs ago #30
Here are some examples of how this happens IbogaProject 14 hrs ago #38
Obviously elites meet. Your conjecture what happened is just a dubious conjecture; not proved simply by elites meeting.n Bernardo de La Paz 8 hrs ago #66
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting. "Conspiracy" isn't a real word, and there is no real meaning to the word in the dictionary BComplex 14 hrs ago #41
this long article from The Guardian in 2020 is worth reading. It's all there... IcyPeas 18 hrs ago #4
I also found a BBC article that had a good summary of the whole "Pizzagate" CT insanity BumRushDaShow 18 hrs ago #7
exactly--- so much awful stuff was know about Dump and Epstein well before now and the MSM LymphocyteLover 17 hrs ago #15
Typical sleazebaggery (R) BoRaGard 18 hrs ago #6
A special reservation in Hades for him. Marcuse 17 hrs ago #11
Any abuse to children is wrong. So sad. Protect ;your children and others if needed. twodogsbarking 15 hrs ago #22
Beautiful secret party. mzmolly 17 hrs ago #12
not surprising at all... but this info was known by the NYT in 2019??? LymphocyteLover 17 hrs ago #13
There is stuff (posted upthread) BumRushDaShow 17 hrs ago #16
I think TSF FalloutShelter 17 hrs ago #14
People voted for a pedophile to be their president. Emile 17 hrs ago #17
A great many of them would vote for him again tomorrow Orrex 16 hrs ago #19
Agree! Because lot of them do so just because they STILL believe bluestarone 15 hrs ago #24
Trump's behavior towards women, his drug use, his ties to organized crime, and his money from foreign... Botany 16 hrs ago #20
David Pecker (National Inquieror) knew it too. underpants 12 hrs ago #54
He is a rapist Botany 12 hrs ago #59
Something needs to take that crooked predator down IronLionZion 15 hrs ago #21
Where I grew up it was referred to as "jail bait". Guess that no longer applies. twodogsbarking 15 hrs ago #23
Trump crawled into her bed Bluetus 15 hrs ago #26
Link to NYT article from the OP link FakeNoose 15 hrs ago #27
NYT published the article in 2019. Ocelot II 15 hrs ago #29
Yes and the new article was printed yesterday FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #34
I hope the renewed attention on the late, unlamented Mr. Epstein Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #35
This cites a NYT article from 2019. All this stuff was known years ago. Ocelot II 15 hrs ago #28
I think the NYT did not publish information as to the 1990s Epstein-only audience event until just now. John1956PA 14 hrs ago #36
Could be. In any event it's good to see that they are resurrecting some of this info, Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #37
NYT had a big feature article yesterday BumRushDaShow 12 hrs ago #51
Most of this is information that was previously known, but Ocelot II 12 hrs ago #52
They are taking advantage of the news cycle BumRushDaShow 12 hrs ago #56
I hope the cycle keeps spinning. Ocelot II 12 hrs ago #57
I often wonder if it were young boys if the general MAGA population would get on board with the vile flying_wahini 14 hrs ago #31
Whether boys or girls, the children were recruited from families with no financial access FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #49
Why was none of this published BEFORE the election? NickB79 14 hrs ago #33
One of the NYT articles was published in 2019. Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #40
Shouldn't the quotes be around "for" like this BootinUp 14 hrs ago #39
Not surprised sakabatou 13 hrs ago #43
Epstein was "was the only other guest," ... surrealAmerican 13 hrs ago #44
more like Epstein was the CLIENT Skittles 5 hrs ago #68
Now they report it again, years later Mz Pip 13 hrs ago #45
I understand your point. However, maybe the NYT did not have unassailable confirmation of the story until now. John1956PA 13 hrs ago #46
I'd never heard about this Mz Pip 12 hrs ago #53
This particular allegation about the 1990s "Calendar Girl" event is new to ambit of Trump-Epstein known facts. John1956PA 12 hrs ago #60
That would make Trump a trafficker, now wouldn't it? Sogo 12 hrs ago #47
and yett the neocon rs keep pointing at us gays for being pervs and they get a way with it.. AllaN01Bear 12 hrs ago #50
MAGA looks to him as their role model bucolic_frolic 12 hrs ago #55
Speechless here Peacetrain 12 hrs ago #58
I want this to keep going, the slow drip Javaman 11 hrs ago #61
Watch Donny file another billion-dollar lawsuit then send a "woe is me. I'm such a victim letter" to his MAGA supporters Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 11 hrs ago #62
Sick fucking fuck. Blue Owl 10 hrs ago #63
Surprises me to say, but I don't think Trump will survive this Deminpenn 8 hrs ago #64
The MAGA cult - the ones that aren't brain-dead - many are super-religious Jesus freaks FakeNoose 7 hrs ago #67
Long knives are out for Trump. Crazy nt PufPuf23 8 hrs ago #65
BumRushDaShow......... Upthevibe 3 hrs ago #69
Otherwise known as a Daycare center. mercuryblues 3 hrs ago #70

FakeNoose

(37,900 posts)
32. Chump had a lot of "friends" in those days
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:52 AM
14 hrs ago


I'm no prude but this pedo behavior is obscene. It's clear to me that he behaved like this for most of his life, having no thought to how it would look for an American "President" to be like this.

Now he's trying to cover it up and the media was complicit, for the most part. Until now. Now The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and other corporate media are printing this stuff - because they HAVE TO!

Americans should be mortified and we should all hang our heads in shame. Whether we voted for him or not.

Hornedfrog2000

(369 posts)
3. It is all so weird,
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:15 AM
19 hrs ago

It is really like something has changed. The media all of a sudden decides this is the story that will take down trump? Really? Immediately after they pass this pos bill. Right after him and Elon have a public falling out? Something wreaks. No handful of men should have the power to flip a switch like this after the pain they have caused our lives.

BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
5. I am watching them do the same "strategy"
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:43 AM
18 hrs ago

that was done to hound Biden for months about dropping out. I.e., the "drip, drip, drip".

In this case there are differences (outside of us knowing the media is generally owned by the RW so there is often a "catch" ) -

1.) 45 has no shame and "shaming" him failed in the past with the release of the Access Hollywood tapes and his macho manosphere base loved that type of bravado.

2.) However the thrust seems to be targeting his loon base, which itself has "factions", where the QAnon nuts based much of their philosophy on purported "pedophilia rings" and whatnot. They were convinced the rings were run by Democrats (prompting the whole "pizzagate" nonsense) and they literally spent 10 years indoctrinating their followers and others who became MAGats, where Epstein's mess fit right in perfectly with the CT, and they had anecdotal pics of Epstein and Clinton. So the files collected for Epstein's various run-ins with the law and trial, were promised to reveal all these high-level Democrats. But alas...

At this point, "it's a story" that is letting the tabloid media have a field day but is also allowing the RW M$M to effectively "bury" other stories dealing with the destruction of the U.S. government that is underway amongst a slow-acting court system and with the blessing of the Roberts SCOTUS.

Meanwhile the "manwhore" Muskrat is helping to fuel the discord (for his own benefit).

lostincalifornia

(3,882 posts)
10. No doubt. I wouldn't be surprised the MSM owners want the unpredictable trump out, and vance in because
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:46 AM
17 hrs ago

they believe they can control vance.



YodaMom2

(97 posts)
42. This. But as usual, they fail to take into account that Vance already has an owner.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:44 AM
13 hrs ago

And his name is Peter Theil.

lostincalifornia

(3,882 posts)
9. It was intentional. They MSM had to be aware of this for years, yet they choose to remain relatively quiet
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:44 AM
17 hrs ago

about it until most of the damage had been done.

Now I suspect they are bringing this to the front because of trump's erratic economic policies, from the constantly changing uncertain tariff policies, to the blind deportations of undocumented people which are essential to many industries in the economy, not the least are the farmers.

No one should be surprised that the oligarchs are are trying to push trump out because they cannot control the sociopath, and having vance takes over makes perfect sense because they can control vance.

Anyone wonder if 60 minutes will do a story of the relationship between epstein and trump?



Bernardo de La Paz

(57,143 posts)
18. It's a tipping point phenomenon, not anything like "a switch" or the media "decides". Also, fickleness of public is a fa
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:35 AM
17 hrs ago

The fickleness of the public is a factor too. Media have algorithms they monitor, just like social media automates algorithms.

A tipping point arrives unplanned and unannounced and unforeseeable. Add a grain of sand at a time to the top of a pile and at some point there will be a little avalanche. When is not predictable.

The media report stories when they have them. Larger analysis pieces and opinions may be held back for effect, but even those are relatively random. CBS does not call up the LA Times and say "we've got some news but we want to release it at the same time you release some news; got any news?"

So the media reports on Blondi saying she has lists and documents on her desk. Then maga says something. Then tRump says something. Then Blondi says there is no list and there is nothing to see here. None of those reports are coordinated.

But the media does assign reporters to leads and stories according to interest. Now that there is a lot of public interest and social media chatter, you bet they are assigning more reporters to the story.

Nobody flipped a switch.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #18)

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,143 posts)
30. Ah yes, time to invoke the convenient PTB, the mysterious "they" who control all everything. . . . nt
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:39 AM
14 hrs ago

IbogaProject

(4,659 posts)
38. Here are some examples of how this happens
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:13 AM
14 hrs ago

Elite meetings that influence media topics in 2025

While it's difficult to definitively say which specific "elite meetings" set media topics, several high-profile gatherings attract significant attention and discussions that often spill over into media coverage, shaping the narrative around important issues. Here are some examples from 2025:

World Economic Forum (WEF) Annual Meeting (Davos, Switzerland): The WEF brings together global leaders from business, government, civil society, and academia to discuss global challenges and potential solutions. Discussions at Davos often center on themes like global cooperation, economic growth, technological advancements (especially AI), and the climate crisis. These discussions, and the insights shared by prominent figures, can influence how these topics are framed and covered in the media throughout the year.

Bilderberg Meeting (Stockholm, Sweden): A private annual gathering of around 120-150 European and North American political and business elites, academics, and journalists. While operating under the Chatham House Rule, meaning discussions are kept confidential, the list of attendees and the broad themes discussed are often reported on. The 2025 meeting included topics like the transatlantic relationship, Ukraine, the US economy, Europe, the Middle East, the authoritarian axis, defense innovation, AI, deterrence and national security, proliferation, the geopolitics of energy and critical minerals, depopulation, and migration. The very secrecy of the meeting often fuels speculation and discussion in the media, particularly from those concerned about the influence of powerful groups on global affairs.

G7 Summit (Canada): This meeting of leaders from the seven largest advanced economies aims to address global economic and political issues. While achieving consensus among the G7 members can be challenging. The summit's ability to present a united front on issues like relations with Russia and China can also shape the media narrative around these topics.

Media and Journalism Conferences: Events specifically focused on the media industry, [and] can influence how issues are covered and framed in the media.

Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) meetings and initiatives: The CFR regularly convenes discussions, publishes analysis, and fosters dialogue on foreign policy and shape the way these are discussed in the media.

It's important to note that the influence of these meetings on media topics is complex and multifaceted. Media coverage is also shaped by other factors such as current events, public interest, and journalistic priorities.

Not mentioned is The Trilateral Comission, who's stated main goal is shaping aka "durecting" the global media narritives.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,143 posts)
66. Obviously elites meet. Your conjecture what happened is just a dubious conjecture; not proved simply by elites meeting.n
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:03 PM
8 hrs ago

BComplex

(9,492 posts)
41. Oh yeah, I keep forgetting. "Conspiracy" isn't a real word, and there is no real meaning to the word in the dictionary
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:24 AM
14 hrs ago

It's a fake word. We've been TOTALLY programmed to shame anyone who uses said made up word.

IcyPeas

(23,914 posts)
4. this long article from The Guardian in 2020 is worth reading. It's all there...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:36 AM
18 hrs ago
Teen models, powerful men and private dinners: when Trump hosted Look of the Year

The Guardian article was written in March 2020. All this shit was public knowledge. The links to the article below. It's a pretty long article. Talks about trump, John Casablancas, epstein: that guy Marie was a doozy, and Casablancas too.

In 1991, there were 10 judges in total, eight of them men, including Trump, Casablancas, the celebrity magician David Copperfield, and the president of Elite’s European division, Gérald Marie.


George Houraney, a businessman whose American Dream Calendar Girls beauty contest had been running in Las Vegas casinos since 1978, recalls encountering Epstein at Mar-a-Lago in January 1993. Houraney says that Trump asked him to organise a party that month with some of his pageant’s finalists, promising to invite heads of modelling agencies and prospective sponsors for his competition. “He had me fly in all these girls, and gave me a $30,000 budget for airfares and limos to pick them up at the airport,” he says. “The girls were all decked out, expecting to meet all these VIPs.” But after an hour at the party, Houraney says, there seemed to be only one other guest: Epstein. “I was like, ‘Donald, where are the guys? What’s going on here?’ And he said, ‘Well, this is it.’” Houraney says he realised “this is a Jeff Epstein party, basically”.

While suspicious of Epstein, Houraney was keen to have Trump as a business partner. A month earlier, in December 1992, Trump had met with Houraney and Jill Harth, who ran the pageant together. They were looking for a new sponsor for their contest, which each year saw models aged 16 to 22 compete to appear in wall calendars wearing bikinis and swimsuits while posing with classic cars. At dinner in the Plaza’s Oak Room, Harth, Houraney and Trump discussed moving the American Dream competition from Las Vegas to one of Trump’s casinos. “He wanted to build this into the biggest, the best thing that he could do. He was talking about television and pulling out all the contacts,” Harth later said. Eventually, the pageant was held at Trump Castle in Atlantic City in November 1993, but for one year only.

The partnership soured and ended in two lawsuits, but for Trump it was a prelude to a series of more lucrative ventures in the beauty business. In 1996, he secured what the New York Daily News described as “his most beautiful deal yet”. After months of negotiations, Trump acquired the Miss Universe Organization in a reported $10m deal that handed him control of three large, well-established pageants: Miss Universe, Miss USA, and Miss Teen USA. Three years later, he founded Trump Model Management, poaching many staff from Elite.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year



https://archive.ph/2025.07.19-001832/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year




BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
7. I also found a BBC article that had a good summary of the whole "Pizzagate" CT insanity
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:30 AM
18 hrs ago
The saga of 'Pizzagate': The fake story that shows how conspiracy theories spread

2 December 2016

(snip)

Despite the complete lack of physical evidence or victim testimony, there are reasons why the hardcore conspiracy theorists are particularly sensitive to allegations of child sex abuse.

It's known, for instance that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump flew on the private plane of convicted child abuser Jeffery Epstein, external. Tony Podesta, the brother of the Clinton aide whose emails were hacked, was a friend of Dennis Hastert, a Republican politician who earlier this year was sentenced to 15 months in prison, and has admitted abusing boys. The Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK has featured in speculation as an example of a serial child abuser getting away with his crimes.

(snip)


The above excerpt links to a Daily Beast article from back at the time they wrote their article (2016), with the below about Epstein (used the latest archived snapshot version) -

The Billionaire Pedophile Who Could Bring Down Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton

Brandy Zadrozny, 06.30.16 5:00 AM ET

Editor's note: This article has been updated to reflect the withdrawal of Virginia Roberts Guiffre's allegations against Alan Dershowitz and the striking of the allegations from the court record by a federal judge.


For Jeffrey Epstein and his famous friends, the Aughts were a simpler time, when the businessmen, academics, and celebrities who counted themselves among the playboy philanthropist’s inner circle could freely enjoy the fruits of his extreme wealth and connections.

Epstein’s little black book and flight logs read like a virtual Who’s Who: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew, and Naomi Campbell all hitched rides on Epstein’s private planes. Socialites and distinguished scientists went to visit Epstein’s island in St. Thomas, and cavorted at epic dinner parties at his palatial townhouse—then the largest privately owned residence in New York, as he liked to brag. There, they picked at elaborate meals catered by celebrity chefs like Rocco DiSpirito, marvelled at Epstein’s opulent decor, and noted the pack of very, very young model-types with whom Epstein always seemed to surround himself.

But a darker story was going on underneath the glamour. In 2008, Epstein was convicted of soliciting sex from an underage girl and quietly paid settlements to scores of alleged victims who said he serially molested them. But the girls kept coming out of the woodwork—in 2014, another young woman filed a lawsuit claiming that Epstein used her as a sex slave for his powerful friends—and that she’d been at parties on his private island with former President Clinton.

And just last week, yet another “Jane Doe” filed a suit in New York accusing Epstein and Donald Trump of raping her at a series of sex parties when she was only 13.

(snip)


With respect to 45's "Miss Universe" venture, there were a bunch of video clips released during the 2016 campaign, of his "shaming" the contestants and even busting into their dressing room. But none of that "stuck".

LymphocyteLover

(8,347 posts)
15. exactly--- so much awful stuff was know about Dump and Epstein well before now and the MSM
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:23 AM
17 hrs ago

JUST DID NOT GIVE A FUCK.

BoRaGard

(6,373 posts)
6. Typical sleazebaggery (R)
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:09 AM
18 hrs ago

repubes think this shit is cute. Their kids are going to grow up like this, also embracing the lying grift insulting shit that your republicon leader models day and night.

twodogsbarking

(14,437 posts)
22. Any abuse to children is wrong. So sad. Protect ;your children and others if needed.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:08 AM
15 hrs ago

Thank you sweet ladies.

BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
16. There is stuff (posted upthread)
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:34 AM
17 hrs ago

that goes back to publication by other sources as far back as 2016. In fact, remember that Epstein was initially charged back in 2008 when stuff started coming out.

But none of this "stuck" to 45 because of the media fixation on the Clintons instead and the "both sides" nonsense.

FalloutShelter

(13,582 posts)
14. I think TSF
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:14 AM
17 hrs ago

Was not just a participant. I think he was a procurer.
I always wonder why he bought those teen beauty pageants. This was the pipeline.

JMHO

Emile

(35,979 posts)
17. People voted for a pedophile to be their president.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:35 AM
17 hrs ago

You would think they would be ashamed.

Orrex

(65,554 posts)
19. A great many of them would vote for him again tomorrow
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:02 AM
16 hrs ago

Even knowing what we now know.

bluestarone

(19,948 posts)
24. Agree! Because lot of them do so just because they STILL believe
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:19 AM
15 hrs ago

HE;s the CHOSEN ONE! No good stupid dumb assholes!!!

Botany

(74,765 posts)
20. Trump's behavior towards women, his drug use, his ties to organized crime, and his money from foreign...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:22 AM
16 hrs ago

…. sources have been known for years. The Steele Dossier covered some of it and the MSM was
quick to tow the party line that the dossier had been discredited. Stories of Trump with young
women and cocaine @ Studio 54 were well known too. Rupert Murdoch had to have known all
this stuff for years. I think T.P.T.B. are done with Trump and his end of his Presidency is coming
up soon.

underpants

(191,517 posts)
54. David Pecker (National Inquieror) knew it too.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:00 PM
12 hrs ago

"Mr. Houraney’s then-girlfriend and business partner, Jill Harth, later accused Mr. Trump of sexual misconduct on the night of the party. In a lawsuit, Ms. Harth said that Mr. Trump took her into a bedroom and forcibly kissed and fondled her, and restrained her from leaving. She also said that a 22-year-old contestant told her that Mr. Trump later that night crawled into her bed uninvited."

Botany

(74,765 posts)
59. He is a rapist
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:19 PM
12 hrs ago
End of story. How many different women have said so. If he didn’t have money and connections
he would still be sitting in prison now.

twodogsbarking

(14,437 posts)
23. Where I grew up it was referred to as "jail bait". Guess that no longer applies.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:17 AM
15 hrs ago

Apologies for the derogatory phrase. It is horrific.

Bluetus

(1,308 posts)
26. Trump crawled into her bed
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:26 AM
15 hrs ago

Say what? "She also said that a 22-year-old contestant told her that Mr. Trump later that night crawled into her bed uninvited."

What kind of party has two guests, a bunch of young girls, and they all stay overnight -- and then are surprised when the host tries to sleep with them?

But she was 22, so it isn't creepy as hell, or rape or anything.

FakeNoose

(37,900 posts)
27. Link to NYT article from the OP link
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:31 AM
15 hrs ago

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/19/us/politics/inside-trump-epstein-friendship.html

Archived (no paywall) link: https://archive.ph/hcsoP

Anyone who's been paying attention for the last 8 or 9 years has probably already read this stuff. Yes these stories have been published before, but this is a first for the NY Times.

Is Rupert Murdoch going to start printing the Epstein stories in his papers? Hmmmm.....

FakeNoose

(37,900 posts)
34. Yes and the new article was printed yesterday
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:57 AM
14 hrs ago

I've read almost all of this before, and I'll bet you have too.

We DUers were up on this stuff long before the rest of the American people.

Thanks to corporate news media (being complicit with Chump) most Americans never heard about his activities with Epstein and all the others. Anyone who watches Faux Noise exclusively has probably never heard this stuff before. It's up to us to spread it around.

Ocelot II

(126,051 posts)
35. I hope the renewed attention on the late, unlamented Mr. Epstein
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:59 AM
14 hrs ago

finally gets a few more rocks turned over.

Ocelot II

(126,051 posts)
28. This cites a NYT article from 2019. All this stuff was known years ago.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:32 AM
15 hrs ago

People voted for him anyhow.

John1956PA

(4,293 posts)
36. I think the NYT did not publish information as to the 1990s Epstein-only audience event until just now.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:00 AM
14 hrs ago

I could be wrong, but I think the NYT became AWARE in 2019 that Trump hosted the Epstein-only audience event which occurred in the 1990s. I think that it is only NOW that the NYT got around to publishing an article relating that information.

Ocelot II

(126,051 posts)
37. Could be. In any event it's good to see that they are resurrecting some of this info,
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:08 AM
14 hrs ago

since it seems like a lot of people either forgot about it previously, or didn't care.

BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
51. NYT had a big feature article yesterday
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:53 PM
12 hrs ago
Inside the Long Friendship Between Trump and Epstein


By Alan Feuer and Matthew Goldstein
July 19, 2025


In the swirl of money and sun-tanned women that was their Palm Beach-and-Manhattan set, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein spent nearly 15 years mingling side-by-side as public friends.

There were lavish dinners with boldface names at Mr. Epstein’s mansion on the Upper East Side and raucous parties with cheerleaders and models at Mr. Trump’s private club and residence at Mar-a-Lago. In between, there were trips back and forth from Florida to New York on one of Mr. Epstein’s private jets.

But behind the tabloid glamour, questions have lingered about what Mr. Trump’s long association with Mr. Epstein says about his judgment and character, especially as his allies have stoked sinister claims about Mr. Epstein’s connections to Democrats. After their relationship ruptured, the disgraced financier ended up behind bars not just once, but two times, after being accused of engaging in sex with teenage girls.

One of the young women who later said Mr. Epstein groomed and abused her was recruited into his world while working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago. Another accuser recalled being eyed by Mr. Trump during a brief encounter in Mr. Epstein’s office, and claimed that Mr. Epstein had told Mr. Trump at the time that “she’s not for you.”

(snip)

Ocelot II

(126,051 posts)
52. Most of this is information that was previously known, but
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:56 PM
12 hrs ago

I'm very glad they're putting it out there again.

BumRushDaShow

(156,766 posts)
56. They are taking advantage of the news cycle
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:07 PM
12 hrs ago

(maybe trying to go for a Pulitzer or something)

flying_wahini

(8,122 posts)
31. I often wonder if it were young boys if the general MAGA population would get on board with the vile
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:43 AM
14 hrs ago

Nature of it all. Young girls are so expendable to them, you know?
It must have been so easy to convince the men there that they weren’t as young as they looked.
Feel so bad that these women have been denied justice for so long. (And still are)
Women of America know damn well these kinds of men. Why we would still pick the bear.

FakeNoose

(37,900 posts)
49. Whether boys or girls, the children were recruited from families with no financial access
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:47 PM
12 hrs ago

In many cases the girls were recruited from broken homes, parents missing, some were failing school or dropped out completely. The promise of money and acting jobs, or modelling jobs, was enticing to the girls. Their parental oversight was lax or non-existent. In some cases parents worked multiple jobs and the kids were on their own.

These weren't girls being raised in middle-class homes, you know? They weren't college-bound for sure. Ghislaine Maxwell and other adults knew how to recruit these teenage girls and get them to comply. It was shockingly easy to get one girl to recruit her friends, once she was "in the fold."

Epstein had no interest in boys, but he might have procured boys for some of his wealthy clients, if that was their interest. I don't know because the news stories haven't said anything about it. Whenever the DoJ documents are finally released I guess we'll find out.

Ocelot II

(126,051 posts)
40. One of the NYT articles was published in 2019.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:22 AM
14 hrs ago

A lot of this information has been known for years. Too many people didn't care.

BootinUp

(50,098 posts)
39. Shouldn't the quotes be around "for" like this
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:16 AM
14 hrs ago

Trump hosted a party "for" young women and Epstein was the only guest.

surrealAmerican

(11,665 posts)
44. Epstein was "was the only other guest," ...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:50 AM
13 hrs ago

... which means the "young women" were party favors.

Mz Pip

(28,159 posts)
45. Now they report it again, years later
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:25 PM
13 hrs ago

This may have been old news but it needed to hammered home repeatedly.

Too little too late.

John1956PA

(4,293 posts)
46. I understand your point. However, maybe the NYT did not have unassailable confirmation of the story until now.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:36 PM
13 hrs ago

In 2019, one source told the NYT of the 1990s Mara Lago event. Maybe, from 2019 until now, the NYT has been building an iron-clad defense of the story. Trump has already sued the NYT over its publication. The newspaper recognized the need to have other sources corroborate the story before it proceeded to publish it.

Now that the NYT had published the story, I have posted my comment about it on my website. I hope the story gains traction and creates much consternation for Trump.

Mz Pip

(28,159 posts)
53. I'd never heard about this
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:58 PM
12 hrs ago

I’m fairly proficient in Trump crap but this specific one passed me by. I read the account of the girl who said Trump raped her, which I found totally believable.

I knew about his friendship with Epstein but I never heard Trump was procuring girls for him. That’s what this is. Grooming 101.

But you’re probably right. This needed to be investigated.

John1956PA

(4,293 posts)
60. This particular allegation about the 1990s "Calendar Girl" event is new to ambit of Trump-Epstein known facts.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:24 PM
12 hrs ago

I use the word "facts" confidently, because I am sure the NYT confirmed all of its research before publishinjg the story.

To my knowledge, the allegation was not previously reported by any news outlet possessing any measure of integrity.

Yes, the lawsuit by the woman who alleged in her court filing that Trump raped here has been well known for years. The woman discontinued pursuing the lawsuit, and no one seems to know what became of her, or if she is still alive.

Now that the NYT has published its article this weekend, I have trumpeted (pun?) it on my website.

Best wishes.







AllaN01Bear

(26,495 posts)
50. and yett the neocon rs keep pointing at us gays for being pervs and they get a way with it..
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:53 PM
12 hrs ago

Javaman

(64,259 posts)
61. I want this to keep going, the slow drip
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:40 PM
11 hrs ago

Just when they fucking orange asshole thinks he can catch his breath, another story comes out

I’m hoping for a stroke but a massive heart attack always works

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(126,060 posts)
62. Watch Donny file another billion-dollar lawsuit then send a "woe is me. I'm such a victim letter" to his MAGA supporters
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:42 PM
11 hrs ago

Then hit them up for money.

Deminpenn

(16,913 posts)
64. Surprises me to say, but I don't think Trump will survive this
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:39 PM
8 hrs ago

There is something new every day. And you can bet the media is relishing a scandal that perhaps brings another president down.

FakeNoose

(37,900 posts)
67. The MAGA cult - the ones that aren't brain-dead - many are super-religious Jesus freaks
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:00 PM
7 hrs ago

They're already getting disgusted by this pedo stuff, and it's not going to stop.

The only reason they didn't know this stuff before is that FAUX NOISE didn't tell them.
How many are going to figure it out? Stop voting for Chump, and stop listening to Faux Noise.

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