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BumRushDaShow

(158,702 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:55 AM Jul 25

Dr. Oz under fire after declaring war on the sick: 'Won't tolerate it anymore'

Source: Raw Story

July 24, 2025 6:59PM ET


Dr. Mehmet Oz, President Donald Trump’s Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, declared that the administration will no longer “tolerate” what he called a culture that makes it “easy to be sick in America.” Framing childhood illness as a failure of parenting and physical activity rather than medical need, Oz linked obesity to national security and warned that industries would be forced to caooperate—or face government retaliation.

Oz—often called a conspiracy theorist who has been widely criticized for promoting “quack” products—appeared to endorse an authoritarian vision of public health, suggesting that under Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Americans would no longer be allowed to remain “sick” without consequences, and threatened industry with demands to either cooperate or face retribution.

He also railed against what he called the “over-medicalization” of American society—particularly among children—but failed to distinguish between conditions driven by behavior and those rooted in biology or beyond individual control.

“You’re diagnosing problems that probably should be dealt with with the parents,” he told Fox News Business, referring to children’s health, “or by going out and playing, or just dealing with issues and teaching kids how to mental resilience [sic].”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/dr-oz-2673754890/

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Dr. Oz under fire after declaring war on the sick: 'Won't tolerate it anymore' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 25 OP
Dr. Oz practicing Darwinism bucolic_frolic Jul 25 #1
Darwin wouldn't approve, but Heinrich Himmler would be all in. Ray Bruns Jul 25 #18
That sort of thinking has been called "Social Darwinism." SidneyR Jul 25 #57
I blame Oprah... buzzycrumbhunger Jul 25 #2
I don't JustAnotherGen Jul 25 #6
Blaming her for forcefeeding them to the public, for the constant exposure. niyad Jul 25 #9
And Abstractartist Jul 25 #34
That's real?! YodaMom2 Jul 25 #56
- Lemon Lyman Jul 25 #58
No doubt it's AI, it's SOOO obvious, especially if you look and listen closely... blue_jay Jul 25 #70
My mum used to watch her daily buzzycrumbhunger Jul 25 #72
Thank you! obamanut2012 Jul 25 #12
I'm just tired of it JustAnotherGen Jul 25 #20
I blame Fox "news" for Trump and so do many Americans. nt delisen Jul 25 #24
I blame JustAnotherGen Jul 25 #37
And misogyny! HappyLarge Jul 25 #62
"No one is blaming Fox news or MSNBC for Krasnov" mdbl Jul 25 #25
No I don't JustAnotherGen Jul 25 #36
ok, I see the discussion centered around Oprah mdbl Jul 25 #44
Without her platform, they would be nothing . . . hatrack Jul 25 #15
How did she know JustAnotherGen Jul 25 #17
Dr Phil also BigMin28 Jul 25 #51
Without her edhopper Jul 25 #22
And who do we blame for Trump's fame? yardwork Jul 25 #27
NBC edhopper Jul 25 #61
Blame Oprah's viewers for not showing any discretion. yardwork Jul 25 #26
Oprah understood her audience, and she gave them what they wanted. sop Jul 25 #30
Just as Trump did. yardwork Jul 25 #33
Don't forget about Maryann Williamson BonnieJW Jul 25 #29
I just checked his bio. .learned that oprah's production company was niyad Jul 25 #42
Oprah is a business and a person. A big business. twodogsbarking Jul 25 #54
I never liked Oprah, I always found her grandstanding very self-serving Skittles Jul 25 #68
Stupid out of touch rich asshole SSJVegeta Jul 25 #3
It's so convenient to blame the sick, but how about the Cloudhopper Jul 25 #4
Not just a doctor, but a cardiothoracic surgeon. niyad Jul 25 #39
Ben Carson BigMin28 Jul 25 #52
He's nuckin' futs. twodogsbarking Jul 25 #5
Just an excuse The Madcap Jul 25 #7
Yep. This is all just laying the groundwork for them to do much worse later on. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jul 25 #8
This is what worries me, tooi, OldBaldy... slightlv Jul 25 #65
EXACTLY!!! niyad Jul 25 #10
You can't be sick Marthe48 Jul 25 #11
God help us orangecrush Jul 25 #13
Oz IS a disease... GiqueCee Jul 25 #14
According to Dr. Oz, my late husband's illness was HIS fault??? ProudMNDemocrat Jul 25 #16
Because parents hildegaard28 Jul 25 #19
Oz, he ain't no wizard! Blackjackdavey Jul 25 #21
I wish there was a rule that said no rich people can be in a cabinet or run for office tulipsandroses Jul 25 #23
That's the problem. yardwork Jul 25 #28
He profits from sick people azureblue Jul 25 #31
Wow. I before checking the link, I thought this was The Onion. But.. CousinIT Jul 25 #32
Good luck Ozzy with getting American industry to cooperate. Diamond_Dog Jul 25 #35
How rich are Oz and his 'peers'? pfitz59 Jul 25 #38
"How rich are Oz and his 'peers'?" BumRushDaShow Jul 25 #41
Dr Oz is part of MAHA bmichaelh Jul 25 #40
You shouldn't automatically discount Blackjackdavey Jul 25 #59
He needs to just relax with some crudites Bayard Jul 25 #43
The complaint of the idle-rich billionaire class: Aristus Jul 25 #45
"diagnosing problems that probably should be dealt with with the parents," chouchou Jul 25 #46
Attention: Everyone who is in the position to be physically near him each day. OldBaldy1701E Jul 25 #47
Broken clock there. ananda Jul 25 #48
no wonder 1 million covid deaths are swept under the carpet DBoon Jul 25 #49
Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil, and RFK Jr. are the unholy trinity of the Dump Administration Blue Owl Jul 25 #50
Good old Biblical Faith Healing instead of demon medicine. usonian Jul 25 #53
This sounds like a war is brewing - a war on fat people NH Ethylene Jul 25 #55
I guess Oz (is he really still a Dr?) doesn't care that his career is over once we oust the fat orange pig. Greybnk48 Jul 25 #60
Perfect Genes mkp Jul 25 #63
He really should have his medical licensed pulled and then told to go and pound sand............ turbinetree Jul 25 #64
Total asshole. Thanks Oprah. Evolve Dammit Jul 25 #66
Oz wants the US to practice social darwinism sakabatou Jul 25 #67
Of course. The polar opposite of what we need to be doing. Health care in this country is done and anyone who still Karasu Jul 25 #69
This is so stupid how can people not get sick? kimbutgar Jul 25 #71
When and if we get through this psychosis... lonely bird Jul 26 #73

bucolic_frolic

(52,027 posts)
1. Dr. Oz practicing Darwinism
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:07 AM
Jul 25

that even Darwin wouldn't approve of.

"no longer be allowed to remain “sick” without consequences"

WTF?? Beat the sick into wellness?? Is he saying illness is a psychological thing?

SidneyR

(180 posts)
57. That sort of thinking has been called "Social Darwinism."
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:28 AM
Jul 25

But it really has nothing to do with Darwin himself.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,287 posts)
2. I blame Oprah...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:13 AM
Jul 25

... for force-feeding arseholes like him and "Dr." Phil, and giving them legitimacy. Every other show was a charlatan. 😡

niyad

(126,365 posts)
9. Blaming her for forcefeeding them to the public, for the constant exposure.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:50 AM
Jul 25

She promotes bs, like her latest, the miraculous himalayan salt diet.

Abstractartist

(314 posts)
34. And
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:29 AM
Jul 25

And her great friend and world renowned astronaut Gayle King…. That fiasco sure died quickly didn’t it…. Many of these big celeb types are just as much charlatans as the rest.

YodaMom2

(107 posts)
56. That's real?!
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:24 AM
Jul 25

And here I was thinking that Himalayan salt sh*t was AI generated, that she couldn’t possibly be hawking such blatant quackery. But I guess, what with Oz and Phil and the guy who wrote that fake autobiography about his rise from addiction, that I shouldn’t be surprised at all…

Lemon Lyman

(1,502 posts)
58. -
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:28 AM
Jul 25

I agree that she sucks for platforming these 2 douches.

I'm pretty sure the miracle salt thing is total deepfake/AI bullshit. I've seen that video ad pop up on Youtube. It looks like it's not real. It reminds me of the fake Kelly Clarkson gummies weight loss crap.

blue_jay

(95 posts)
70. No doubt it's AI, it's SOOO obvious, especially if you look and listen closely...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jul 25

while she did promote them, am sure there are/were more factors and people involved in the decision process made at that time. Also, sadly, fame and money affect people, you know, power corrupts and all that. Not many survive with their basic morals and humanity intact but some do I believe, or at least come back to it, just not enough people do that. She's an easy target for weight loss scammers.

I'm sure you all have noticed there are a sh*t ton of fake AI videos out right now by the way. If it surprises you it's probably a load of BS but worth doing due diligence on all, just to be sure, IMHO.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,287 posts)
72. My mum used to watch her daily
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:28 PM
Jul 25

Those guys were on frequently, not just once, and both pseudo docs had their own shows thanks to her studio. She did indeed force-feed them to us and bankrolled them into stardom of sorts.

The woman has always bounced from one “great” idea to another, like a ping pong ball. I suspect having to pick her guests five days a week made her weirdly incapable of focusing on one thing for too long, but they were all the most fabulous, fascinating thing as she gushed and sold them to her fans.

Damn, even as a teenager, I was pissed that this crap is what replaced Phil Donohue.

JustAnotherGen

(36,718 posts)
20. I'm just tired of it
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:59 AM
Jul 25

I'm not defending her recent actions which SHE OWN's.

But it borders on 'look what you made me do' . She had an excellent talk show and she did what she needed to do to keep people engaged. It's business. It's not personal.

No one is blaming Fox news or MSNBC for Krasnov. But I'm old enough to remember him being allowed to call into Morning Scum (Joe) and get free campaign air time.

mdbl

(7,212 posts)
25. "No one is blaming Fox news or MSNBC for Krasnov"
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:14 AM
Jul 25

Don't you think that's a little misplaced both-siderism? Yes you CAN blame Fox. MSNBC has tirelessly tried to expose the underbelly of the cons to the deafness of Magatville.

JustAnotherGen

(36,718 posts)
36. No I don't
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:32 AM
Jul 25

We aren't blaming black women for the behavior of rich white men. When the Regime falls - she's not bring treated the same way they are.

mdbl

(7,212 posts)
44. ok, I see the discussion centered around Oprah
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:57 AM
Jul 25

I was just commenting in general. As far as Oprah is concerned, I have been watching her platform really weird people since she started her show in Chicago. I used to think it was useful to expose the weirdos, especially the racist idiots she would host. Unfortunately, it seemed to have the reverse effect on our screwed up American populace. What should have been exposed and left in the fringes has moved mainstream. It's really sick. So at this point in time, I would blame her or anyone that gives these weirdos a platform knowing the end result.

hatrack

(63,383 posts)
15. Without her platform, they would be nothing . . .
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:26 AM
Jul 25

They'd be boring other members of their local Lions Club, and playing lots of golf.

JustAnotherGen

(36,718 posts)
17. How did she know
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:44 AM
Jul 25

That her giving them an opportunity to excel - would be turned into an opportunity for evil?

She didn't. We didn't. I chose to call them both charlatans years and years ago. Especially Dr. Phil with his made-up conflicts for ratings. Jerry Springer was soooooooooo much better at that game.

She's not Candace Owens.

yardwork

(67,750 posts)
27. And who do we blame for Trump's fame?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:17 AM
Jul 25

Without his Apprentice show, he never would have been elected president. And Oz would be a retired show biz guest.

yardwork

(67,750 posts)
26. Blame Oprah's viewers for not showing any discretion.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:16 AM
Jul 25

Oprah is an entertainer, and she had other entertainers on her show.

You can blame Oprah for having a show you don't like. You can blame her for promoting charlatans. But it's a stretch to blame her for Oz being made head of CMS.

The fault for that lies with Trump and RFK, Jr., who appointed Oz. And the fault for Trump and RFK, Jr. being in charge of our health care system? That's with the American voters.

BonnieJW

(2,993 posts)
29. Don't forget about Maryann Williamson
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:25 AM
Jul 25

Who was also foisted upon us via Oprah. With all her spiritual nonsense and then she ran for president. I will admit she would have been better than president putz

niyad

(126,365 posts)
42. I just checked his bio. .learned that oprah's production company was
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 25

responsible for his tv show, and all the damage it caused.

Skittles

(166,830 posts)
68. I never liked Oprah, I always found her grandstanding very self-serving
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jul 25

but after she inflicted those hacks on us I absolutely DESPISE her

Cloudhopper

(119 posts)
4. It's so convenient to blame the sick, but how about the
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:21 AM
Jul 25

industries that are making us sick, start there. There are plenty of them.

How is a GD doctor so stupid??!!

slightlv

(6,411 posts)
65. This is what worries me, tooi, OldBaldy...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 03:58 PM
Jul 25

I already jump through more hoops and lose more of privacy because I have a monthly script (doable with 3 separate month scripts) for my pain meds. I figure before I'm planted, they'll try to strip those away from me. Woe be unto the person who has to deal with me with my lupus and fibro both flare up at the same time, especially when rain begins to approach the area and kick off the stenosis and arthritis in my spine. I will kill.... !

Seriously, tho... I worry about this. If they start to go all authoritarian on what drugs can and cannot be dispensed and for what, there's going to be a lot of violence and death in the country. I've done some research, and to taper off my Effexor med, it would take me close to a decade, and even then there are bad side effects for years once you're off it. Same with several of the SSRI's out there. I know what I'm like if I miss a couple of days of dosage, and you do not want to go through that. There aren't enough treatment centers anywhere to deal with all the people on SSRI's who'd be going thru withdrawals that could lead to suicides. I've also got meds that are being used off-label to treat my fibro. If they go full authoritarian, I"m assuming that the off-label use would no longer be allowed. It's damned scary, AFAIC. But I can hear the sound bites right now on PSA's... "Let go of that drug, and let God heal you!" Because by then we'll all be living in a theocracy, and this concept is right up their alley...

Marthe48

(21,540 posts)
11. You can't be sick
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:54 AM
Jul 25

but it's ok to breathe dirty air, drink contaminated water, and live among the toxic waste deposited by industry.

GiqueCee

(2,718 posts)
14. Oz IS a disease...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:20 AM
Jul 25

... His malice and incompetence are on full display, and yet, he's still got a national platform from which to spew his lies, to the detriment of ALL Americans. His word-salad drivel isn't just annoying, it's potentially lethal. But then, that's why Trump appointed him. The malicious child calling itself KING wants to destroy the country, because he knows, as does anyone with the mental faculties of a potted plant, that he could never have won an honest election without cheating, just as he could never win at golf without cheating. And he resents the fact that everyone – with the exception of the brain-dead yahoos that still support him – knows that he's a fraud, a thief, and a pathological liar.
And the band played "Nearer my God to Thee".

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,096 posts)
16. According to Dr. Oz, my late husband's illness was HIS fault???
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:39 AM
Jul 25

What about fucking genetics, Dr. Oz? What kind of witch doctor are you?

Despite my husband's inheriting a bad heart, developing Type II diabetes, he made changes in his lifestyle with diet and exercise to starve off the effects of what would kill him in the end. I changed how I cooked to not only aid me in losing weight and keeping it off, but centered my lifestyle around his to increase his quality of life of life as well.

But after COVID, life changed for most of us. As life changed for millions of Americans despite medications and lifestyle changes. For Dr. Oz to heartlessly blame the sick for the problems we face today, is CRUEL. For he blames the disabled, the deformed, the elderly, etc.

Karma is a bitch Dr. Oz. There will come a day when you become sick! For she will not be merciful for the things you said about others.

hildegaard28

(736 posts)
19. Because parents
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:48 AM
Jul 25

Can just "deal" with cancer? Maybe instead of giving those kids chemo meds, they need to be out running around in the fresh air? That will totally kill the cancer.

Blackjackdavey

(237 posts)
21. Oz, he ain't no wizard!
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jul 25

His basic premise regarding children is not wrong. Understanding that many childhood illnesses are preventable or behavioral and that parenting or lack thereof does play a major role in childhood illness isn't wrong. He's also not wrong that diet and companies marketing garbage not food to children and parents is a major factor. However, as mentioned above already, the big money polluting industries and tech industries also are major contributors and we know they have no intention of reigning that in. But the major point I want to make, is the reason many children and families are stuck in a cycle of illness, generation from generation is socioeconomic, environmental and cultural. Families can't afford increasingly expensive healthy food, they don't have access to parks, they don't have basic nutritional information or accurate information of any kind, they don't have any idea how what positive parenting, behavior management and prosocial skills are and Oz along with the man behind the curtain do not want to acknowledge or address any of those things. (Who am I kidding they don't understand or know what those things are either.) Families often like to pathologize their children in order to mask overall family dysfunction, our government is doing the same thing.

Therefore, added together, he starts out right, ends up sadly wrong.

tulipsandroses

(7,855 posts)
23. I wish there was a rule that said no rich people can be in a cabinet or run for office
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:07 AM
Jul 25

Not unless you have a track record of public service.

These rich assholes are so fucking out of touch.

yardwork

(67,750 posts)
28. That's the problem.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:22 AM
Jul 25

The attitude of the people running our health care system (RFK, Jr, Oz, and their 20-something minions) is the following:

1. If you are sick, we can offer you weight loss drugs and an AI avatar nurse.

2. If those don't work, you're on your own.

3. "We" can't afford to spend a lot of money on you dreary poor people. Either get it together or die.

CousinIT

(11,791 posts)
32. Wow. I before checking the link, I thought this was The Onion. But..
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jul 25

..it's NOT.

Holy shit, that entire crime syndicate is batshit insane.

Diamond_Dog

(38,154 posts)
35. Good luck Ozzy with getting American industry to cooperate.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:31 AM
Jul 25

Cheap processed food made addictive, no more air and water pollution regulations, starving funding for medical research, plus unfettered gun ownership would be a good place to start. And stop demonizing people who are ill, “DOCTOR”.

pfitz59

(11,765 posts)
38. How rich are Oz and his 'peers'?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jul 25

How complicit is he/are they in making health care unaffordable? Kids don't run around playing outside anymore because 'Faux and friends' have portrayed the nation being full of dangers. Plus parents are terrified their kids get hurt or sick because they can't afford medical insurance or 'copays, caps' and other bullshit. Oz can go fuck himself.

BumRushDaShow

(158,702 posts)
41. "How rich are Oz and his 'peers'?"
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:52 AM
Jul 25

This rich -



(alot of it from his wife, whose family owns the Asplundh company that does a variety of services for utilities)

bmichaelh

(909 posts)
40. Dr Oz is part of MAHA
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:51 AM
Jul 25

I believe Dr. Oz is part of MAHA movement.

I have family members that are part of this movement and MAGA, also.

This is some of the crazy stuff they believe.

All disease is the result of diet and environment.
There is a secret cure for cancer that is being suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry.
COVID was manufactured in the lab.
They send me links to unproven cancer cures, like ivermectin.
Additionally, they refuse to be vaccinated.

In 1986, I was diagnosed with Crohns.
There are some people that are genetically predisposed to the disease (not diet or environment).
I was at greater risk of lymphoma, which I was diagnosed with 4 years later.
Lymphoma returned 2x in 2002 and 2019.

Unfortunately, there will probably be Americans who will not be better off with this quacks in government.

Blackjackdavey

(237 posts)
59. You shouldn't automatically discount
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jul 25

This: All disease is the result of diet and environment. Even Crohns, even cancer, even genetic disposition. I think it is probably safe to discount "all." But this is what environmental justice is all about. (And Biden's extraordinarily useful environmental justice map.) We know there are cancer clusters, asthma clusters, lead poisoning clusters, etc. around the country. We know this is the result of polluting industries carefully located in or near communities of lower socioeconomic means and we know the cycle of poverty can lock people into those environments for multiple generations. We also know American sociopathapitalists don't want to talk about that.

Aristus

(70,642 posts)
45. The complaint of the idle-rich billionaire class:
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jul 25

"The poors aren't working hard enough for my money!"

To them, every employee sick day is a day the billionaires aren't getting the wealth that working people earn for them.

chouchou

(2,260 posts)
46. "diagnosing problems that probably should be dealt with with the parents,"
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:02 AM
Jul 25

Oh Yeah! Like the logical, intelligent parents who voted for probably some of the worst humans in existence.
"Here honey, be sure to eat your extremely high sugary cereal this morning before going to school and
take your delicious lunch..consisting of fat and grease...Yum yum!!

OldBaldy1701E

(8,779 posts)
47. Attention: Everyone who is in the position to be physically near him each day.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:23 AM
Jul 25

PLEASE get sick with something and then go to where he will be each day and cough/touch everything you know he will be touching.

PLEASE do this every day that you can. Save your old tissues and wipe down his door knobs and his car doors.

SHOW him that being sick is no joke and certainly nothing to politicize as an attempt to curry favor.

ananda

(32,873 posts)
48. Broken clock there.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jul 25

I agree with him that children are too obese, over-medicated,
and not active enough.

However, medical science is still a necessary part of life for
everyone.

What Oz is doing -- literally -- is throwing the baby out with
the medical bathwater.

He is a dangerous tool.

DBoon

(24,152 posts)
49. no wonder 1 million covid deaths are swept under the carpet
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:34 AM
Jul 25

It was all their fault for getting sick and dying

In their view, the true tragedy is that the healthy were required to mask and vaccinate

NH Ethylene

(31,201 posts)
55. This sounds like a war is brewing - a war on fat people
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jul 25

The complications of obesity make up a big chunk of the medical costs in this country. Does he subscribe to the "let them die" approach? I would not be surprised at all. Anything to squeeze out a few more dollars for the rich.

Greybnk48

(10,593 posts)
60. I guess Oz (is he really still a Dr?) doesn't care that his career is over once we oust the fat orange pig.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:47 PM
Jul 25

Is he promoting any of his pills or snake oil like he used to? What a fast talking, scam artist he is. He is definitely a good fit for Trumpy.

turbinetree

(26,474 posts)
64. He really should have his medical licensed pulled and then told to go and pound sand............
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jul 25

Karasu

(1,877 posts)
69. Of course. The polar opposite of what we need to be doing. Health care in this country is done and anyone who still
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jul 25

values their health and has the means is better off leaving.

kimbutgar

(25,858 posts)
71. This is so stupid how can people not get sick?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:49 PM
Jul 25

Insane and idiotic comment. Typical of the people in the orange pedo presidents OPP administration.

lonely bird

(2,476 posts)
73. When and if we get through this psychosis...
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 08:00 AM
Jul 26

Confiscate his assets. Strip him of his citizenship. Deport his ass to Somalia.

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