Trump team's 'pocket rescission' idea runs into GOP opposition
Source: The Hill
07/27/25 6:00 AM ET
Some Republicans in Congress are uneasy about the possibility the Trump administration will use a pocket rescission to claw back already approved government funding as fears of a fall shutdown rise.
The Trump administration has already clawed back funds through the use of a rescissions package that passed both chambers of Congress, and some GOP lawmakers are concerned about having to vote on a second, possibly politically tougher, package of cuts.
But these lawmakers say the use of pocket rescissions, an idea floated by the White Houses budget chief that could yank back money without input from lawmakers, could create bad feelings not only with Democrats, but also with Republicans.
Pocket rescissions, I think, are unconstitutional, said Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho), a spending cardinal, this week. So, just like impoundment, I think, is unconstitutional. So well see how it goes, he said.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5421246-rescission-funding-congress-concern/
Bunch of gutless lazy sniveling cowards.

Captain Zero
(8,182 posts)A court decision on a lawsuit last Monday which forces the publishing of apportionments for certain expenditures from Congress. That has been held up for a long time and they're finding that there's approved appropriations that haven't been published. I just wonder if that's part of this rescission process. Always before any appropriation by Congress was published and they're holding back those publications. I also find it interesting that the Secretary of Education has released several billions of dollars on Saturday and made a fairly big deal about that and if that is related to these resisions and this publication of appropriations that has to be done. The other thing I wondered is this was like 8 billion dollars at the Department of Education what if they had never published that and never released that and then they had abolished the Department of Education like they want to do....W where would that money have gone. Would it have disappeared somewhere?
Walleye
(41,561 posts)They dont even have anybody who can be competent in the cover-up
Walleye
(41,561 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(126,580 posts)With today's SCROTUS who know?
BumRushDaShow
(157,375 posts)And THAT is what is being violated continually by this craven administration. They only recently did a single "Rescission" package in the reverse order that the law requires, after pretty much cutting or holding funds on anything they hated.
By Richard D. Lyons Special to The New York Times
Oct. 7, 1973
WASHINGTON, Oct. 6In 1970 the Missouri Highway Commission sought Federal funds due the state from gasoline taxes to help complete Interstate 44 through St Louis and for other roads. But the money was unavailable because the White House wanted to cut spending and thus put a brake on inflation.
The result of the seemingly mundane squabble was a lawsuit against the Department of Transportation that the highway commission won, a blizzard of similar suits by state and special interest groups against 10 other Federal agencies over the withholding of Federal funds, a major confrontation between the White House and Congress over which conrtols the purse strings, and the addition of the word impoundment to the Federal lexicon. Viewed by an accountant, the issue might only be that of money $28‐billion worth, or $14.5‐billion, or $18‐billion or even $21‐billion, depending on who is counting and how.
Some Congressmen have pictured the impoundment issue as an embattled Senate and House pitted against the one‐man rule of President Nixon, as House Speaker Carl Albert put it. Some constitutional authorities may regard impoundment merely as the interpretation of that section of Article I that states that no money shall be drawn from the treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law. And to some in state government the issue is not only money but also deception, even outright lying, by some Federal agencies about the amounts of Federal money due their local counterparts.
The impoundment issue is complicated, in part because of practices dating back 170 years, to the conflicting wording of even recently enacted legislation, to the lack of a clear decision by the Supreme Court, and to the current struggle between the President and Congress over unrelated matters such as the Watergate tapes.
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This resulted in Congress passing a law to clarify what can and cannot be done. This law actually created the CBO (Congressional Budget Office), moved the federal fiscal year to begin October 1st instead of July 1st, AND forbid the President from arbitrarily "impounding" funds appropriated by Congress without approval. I believe it fully took effect in 1976.
H.R.7130 - Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974
(LATEST SUMMARY)
Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act - Declares the purposes of this Act. Sets forth the definitions of terms used in the Act.
=Title I: Establishment of House and Senate Budget Committees= - Establishes a Standing Committee of the Senate to be known as the Committee of the Budget. Establishes such a Committee of the House. Outlines the composition and duties of the committees. Provides that each such committee shall make a continuing study of the effects of budget outlays and devise methods of coordinating tax policies with budget outlays.
=Title II: Congressional Budget Office= - Creates a Congressional Budget Office and outlines the duties of such Office. States that the function of the Office is to provide information to the Budget Committees of the two Houses and to other Committees of the two Houses with respect to the budget, appropriation bills, and other bills providing budget authority or tax expenditures.
Abolishes the Joint Committee on Reduction of Federal Expenditures. Provides for public access to budget data.
Directs the Director of the Office to submit to the Committees on the Budget of the House of Representatives and the Senate a report, for the fiscal year commencing on October 1 of that year, with respect to fiscal policy, including new budget authority, total outlays, levels of tax expenditures under existing law, projected economic factors, and any changes in such levels based on proposals in the budget submitted by the President for such fiscal year.
Authorizes the Director of the Office to: (1) equip the Office with up-to-date computer capability; (2) obtain the services of experts and consultants in computer technology; and (3) develop techniques for the evaluation of budgetary requirements.
=Title III: Congressional Budget Process= - Sets forth a timetable with respect to the congressional budget process for any fiscal year. Prescribes, under such timetable, the rules for consideration of concurrent resolutions on the budget. Requires that concurrent resolutions on the budget must be adopted before appropriations and changes in revenues and the public debt limit are made. Sets forth exceptions to this provision.
=Title IV: Additional Provisions to Improve Fiscal Procedures= - Provides that it shall not be in order for either House to consider any bill which provides new advance spending authority unless that bill provides that such authority is to be effective only to the extent as is provided in appropriation Acts.
Requires the Director of the Congressional Budget Office, to the extent practical, to prepare an estimate of costs expected to be incurred in carrying out each bill or resolution.
Defines "new spending authority" for purposes of this Act. Provides that it shall not be in order for either the Senate or House to consider any bill authorizing a new budget authority for any fiscal year unless such bill or resolution is reported on or before May 15 preceding the beginning of such fiscal year.
=Title V: Change of Fiscal Year= - Changes the fiscal year of the Treasury, beginning on October 1, 1976, to commence on October 1 of each year and to end on September 30 of the folowing year. Provides for the conversion of authorizations of appropriations to comply with the new fiscal year.
=Title VI: Amendments to Budget and Accounting Act, 1921= - Provides that the Presidential budget shall include the same elements as the Congressional Budget. Provides for five-year budget projections.
=Title VII: Program Review and Evaluation= - Requires the Comptroller General, upon request, to assist any Congressional committee in developing a statement of legislative objectives and goals, methods of assessment, and the feasibility of pilot testing. Requires the Comptroller General, when requested, to assist Congressional committees in analyzing program reviews or evaluation studies prepared by and for any Federal agency.
Authorizes the Comptroller General to establish an Office of Program Review and Evaluation within the General Accounting Office. Authorizes the employment of up to ten experts.
Provides for a continuing study of additional budget reform proposals designed to improve and facilitate methods of congressional budget-making. Requires that such proposals shall include the following: (1) improving the information base required for determining the effectivness of new programs by such means as pilot testing, survey research, and other experimental and analytical techniques; (2) improving analytical and systematic evaluation of the effectivness of existing programs; (3) establishing maximum and minimum time limitations for program authorization; and (4) developing techniques of human resource accounting and other means of providing noneconomic as well as economic evaluation measures.
=Title VIII: Fiscal and Budgetary Information and Controls= - Provides that the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, in cooperation with the Comptroller General of the United States, shall develop, establish and maintain information systems for fiscal, budgetary, and related information. Provides that such information shall be furnished to Congressional committees upon request.
=Title IX: Miscellaneous Provisions: Effective Dates= - Makes technical and conforming amendments to the provisions of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946.
Provides for the application of the Congressional budget process to the fiscal year 1976.
=Title X: Impoundment Control= - Impoundment Control Act provides that nothing contained in this Act, or in any amnendments made by this Act, shall be construed as: (1) asserting or conceding the constitutional powers or limitations of either the Congress or the President; (2) ratifying or approving any impoundment heretofore or hereafter executed or approved by the President or any other Federal officer or employee, except insofar as pursuant to statutory authorization then in effect; (3) affecting in any way the claims or defenses of any party to litigation concerning any impoundment; or (4) superseding any provision of law which requires the obligation of budget authority or the making of outlays thereunder.
Makes technical amendments to the Antideficiency Act. Repeals the existing impoundment reporting provision of the Budget and Accounting Procedure Act of 1950.
(sorry to throw all that in a reply to you

GentryDixon
(3,072 posts)enjoyed reading. Thanks.
BumRushDaShow
(157,375 posts)who as a supervisor, took a pile of procurement courses and was drowned in training on the "Antideficiency Act", among other things that 45 has been violating.