And a vote for Kamala advertisement aired twice. It freaked me out at first. How could that happen? Even if a show is a rerun don't they update the advertising?

But, they'll probably see it as some sort of personal challenge to redouble their efforts.

I noted that in a internal maga pub poll last week, Shitarelli is 5 points behind Mike Sherrill. I know some of those folks. He's not getting their votes. If they are highly motivated, can't imagine Democrats are any less motivated. The next major election in NJ is in November.

What should have been a change election, once again got fucked up by the maga pubs.

How could they not have been fully motivated in the last election!!

Which means, something has to get their attention.

And, it has to happen directly to them. Which means that most of them actually suffered something on a personal level.

Until then, it seems that, these days, this is the measure of what it takes. Until it hits each person directly, most don't seem too concerned with what is going on.

The programming worked.

At 75 years of age, I’ve seen this cycle repeated over and over again.

... during the primary, and the apathy that was seeded extended into the general election as well (either by not voting at all, or by not voting for the Democratic ticket). These certain elected officials were echoing and amplifying the lies of "Killer Kamala" and "Genocide Joe". While the bulk of the noise and support for the "Uncommitted" movement emanated from Michigan's elected rep, it also had misguided support from elected reps from as far away as New York City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncommitted_National_Movement

...keep going that way and see what happens...

...

...but I find it strange how many can blame everything but those who ran...

...

What I find to be "strange" are those who can justify NOT voting for the Democrat and instead vote for (and/or advocate voting for) a third-party candidate who who has ZERO chance of winning, while pretending that a third-party candidate is rational strategic choice while simultaneously denying the real world of US politics, where only one of two candidates will win: either the Democrat or the Republican.

That's our system of government. That's how it works. Other than for virtue signaling, it makes zeros sense for anyone who considers themselves progresive to withhold support from the Democratic candidate, especially when considering shared goals and values, and considering the consequences of making it easier for the GOP candidate to win.

Additionally, I find it "strange" when someone's support for the Democratic candidate is conditioned on hare-brained demands that the our party's nominee renounce capitalism, or that our Democratic candidate pledge to fill his/her cabinet with Socialists. These types of bizarre and irrational demands clearly do not align with the party's platform or the broader electorate's interests.

It's a very "strange" tactic of promising to do things that harm and sabotage the Democratic party... and that weaken the party and that divide the party... instead, it would be better to productively engage with the Democratic party with realistic solutions, and advocate for reasonable specific policies that resonate with progressive and liberal values.

...making up a lot of stuff here but that's okay...

...it doesn't change the fact it's time for change...what we've been doing hasn't been working very well...

...we need change not more of the same...

...and change is what we're going to get...

...

and use that vote to send a message to the nominee.

Unfortunately, to be effective, the nominee has to actually listen to the message, and neither Biden nor Harris heard it, or acted on it if they did hear it.

Harris should have done WHAT in (adopting the right 'message' )
Cozy up to Tlaib, and the 'charmers' occupying and defacing university buildings and campuses ..? Oh - what a winning ticket that would have made! Talk about people staying home !

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Keee'rist on a crutch!

Include a Palestinian speaker at the convention.

There is a difference between acknowledging legitimate grievances and including those expressing them - and embracing vandals. This conflation of supporting the rights of Palestinians with supporting terrorists/vandals/antisemites is really old and lacking imagination.

(pretty much every night on TV) And any move in that direction - would have played out disastrously for a presidential candidate/campaign in middle America. Once again - talk about p*ssing away support, and people staying home!

Harris may not have been the greatest candidate we ever had (although I though she handled herself pretty darned well!) - but at least she wasn't THAT tone deaf! Sure - "Let's get a couple of Palestinian flags up there on stage!" That'll work a treat!

(you and I have agreed on a lot of things in the past ... but, man! ..... )

A small portion of those advocating for the rights of Palestinians were also engaging in or supporting vandalism. That does not mean the "rights of Palestinians" people (as a whole) were actively supporting the vandals.

And yes, she was tone deaf on a couple of issues. Palestinians were actively negotiating for a voice on the stage at the convention and, to my understanding, were never formally told they would not be able to participate. Inviting their voice would have gone a long way, not only to demonstrating a distance from Biden's policy - but listening to their voices. Doing so, (just like listening to black voices, women's voices LGBTQI voices, and Jewish voices), brings a much broader perspective in policy discussions and messaging - a voice that was sadly lacking in the Harris campaign.

She was also tone deaf on pocketbook economy v. wall street economy.

Those are two populations which stayed home in larger percentages than usual, and could easily have made the difference in who is president now.

Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. At the end of the day, anyone who calls themself a Democrat has to wake up to the realization that whoever is running as the Democratic candidate is tons better than the Republican they're running against. And especially so when the Republican candidate is Trump.

Refusing to listen to the numerous sources who warned we were losing people concerned about our role in the MidEast, and people whose pocketbooks were not reaching to the end of the month suggests the latter. I prefer the former - that means learning from our mistakes and widening our tent, not bashing those who felt excluded enough that they stayed home.

I definitely didn't bash the Democrats who brought about Trump's election by staying home. I just stated a fact.

Where I heard a modest chuckle or a hearty laugh, the woman-haters of ALL political stripes portrayed it as a cackle, and the media passed it on.

You know who cackles? The Wicked Old Witch in Brothers Grimm fairy tales.

It is a slur.

(You know this, which is why you called it out. I’m just supporting and expanding)

DUers making fun of Hillary’s “cackle”.

I'm not even sure if the vote won't be completely rigged
from now on.

I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.
I will not dwell on 2016 and 2024.

fucking clowns. Hope it isn't too late ya complacent morons. I guess things have to JUST about go off the GD rails in this country for all these folks to bother to vote.

What matters most is showing up in the here and now. The power and impact lie in the next vote, even if at the expense of spilled milk.

is to have people motivated BEFORE 2026 and out there voting THIS YEAR during any municipal/county/state elections, which often include judges (who are normally considered "boring" but who are CRITICAL when it comes to laws that states enact, where there may be some who intend on rubber-stamping the terrorizing).

We often over-focus on the "federal" elections and leave the state parties completely helpless in off-years (and "off years" are not just "mid-terms", the latter which may have a mix of state/federal offices on the ballot, but still have a "federal" component).

are almost the same drag on the system ....
(I won't complete that statement - because it's borne of a bitter taste in mouth - and only about half true .... )

Looks like some of you need to wean yourselves off the NY Times opinion page, along with the rest of the trump-friendly mainstream media. After all, once you've read one "678 Reasons Why The Democrats Suck" column, there's no need to read any others.

I vote as a civic duty.

I am as much anti GOP as pro Democratic Party.

...we're going to need it...

...a lot will happen between now and then...

...I hope our leadership is up to the task...

...

they did not show up at the polls

I'm hoping that you voters who sat out the 2024 elections have taken notice that more active Democrats weren't just screaming and running around in circles for the hell of it. The parties ARE different. Donald Trump's party is no friend of working American families or of retirees, the ailing, or of families with children trying to make better lives for themselves and their offspring. They will vote and act to support their billionaire and mega-millionaire friends while leaving you homeless, hungry and feeling the chill of winter and overheated summer days.

And remember, your vote does count. You're currently living through what happens when you decided to stay home and assume that things would go along as they always did.

And please, please, please stop taking bunkum from the corporate media at face value. While Fox News was already pro-Republican, the other guys were bending themselves into pretzels to say nice things about the guy now in the White House and his followers instead of actually reporting news.

We'll see what happens on primary and election day.

How am I doing at being nice? Don't be honest, humor me.

Let's roll!

I sure hope there will be elections in 26 & 28 for them to vote in.

guess they should have tried that sooner ?

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😑
I'll finger wag here, but not to their faces

But it remains to be seen if this country will have free and fair elections in the future, as an evil, fascist political party and its depraved leader make every effort to prevent it.

…doesn’t excite them sufficiently, I diagnose them as dead to all reason.

It just means we're angrier.

I couldn't be angrier, but I don't need motivation to vote.

I know it’s a favorite saying for many, but I do believe THIS NEXT election will be one of, if not the most important elections this country has or will have. Extremely important to retake at least the house, if not both house and senate.

There was no more necessary time be at peak motivation than last year.

Happy to know I have company.