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muriel_volestrangler

(104,448 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:11 PM Jul 29

Trump says Epstein 'stole' underage victim Virginia Giuffre from his Mar-a-Lago spa, leading to feud

Source: MSN/The Independent

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he ended his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein because the disgraced financier “stole” young women working at his Mar-a-Lago spa too many times — including a 17-year-old Virginia Giuffre.
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Pressed further on whether the workers poached by Epstein included Giuffre, then a Mar-a-Lago pool locker-room attendant whose groundskeeper dad got her a job there, Trump confirmed she was among the poachings.

“I told him, I said, listen, we don’t want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa. I don’t want him taking people. And he was fine. And then, not too long after that, he did it again. And I said, out of here,” he said, describing Epstein as having “stolen” his spa workers.

Asked point blank if one of them was Giuffre, who died aged 41 by suicide earlier this year, he replied: “I think she worked at the spa. I think so. I think that was one of the people.”

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/trump-says-epstein-stole-underage-victim-virginia-giuffre-from-his-mar-a-lago-spa-leading-to-feud/ar-AA1JwRwN



Trump thought he owned a 17 year old girl.
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Trump says Epstein 'stole' underage victim Virginia Giuffre from his Mar-a-Lago spa, leading to feud (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jul 29 OP
Sure RandySF Jul 29 #1
+1. probably the response deserved -(nt)- stopdiggin Jul 29 #2
I need to change my shoes and socks. AZ8theist Jul 29 #37
Growing up in Texas a half century ago in a family who struggled to stay in the working class, markodochartaigh Jul 29 #3
MAGA wants to take us back to those days IronLionZion Jul 29 #10
I thought iit was that real estate deal that jeffie won over orange? niyad Jul 29 #4
In 2007, an anonymous Mar-a-Lago source said it was Epstein abusing (trying to abuse?) a masseuse muriel_volestrangler Jul 29 #7
"about 18 years old" tanyev Jul 29 #13
Sounded just like him. "Tried to get her to do some things" is trump-speak. Hekate Jul 30 #38
That was the original original excuse underpants Jul 29 #31
Paternalism...that virginity prize is mine! travelingthrulife Jul 30 #47
What was it that they use to say in the olden days? Baitball Blogger Jul 29 #5
We are talking about the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES Eliot Rosewater Jul 29 #6
So the GE was rigged, so Dems might as well not turn out speak easy Jul 29 #25
I sarcastically said it was an underaged female Epstein stole Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 29 #8
I remember some poster said that just as I read the info! electric_blue68 Jul 29 #15
Like a protege from Woltz International C_U_L8R Jul 29 #9
"she was the best piece of ass I have ever had ...." Botany Jul 29 #21
So Donnie barely knows Epstein but remembers a 17 year old employee that Epstein poached. progressoid Jul 29 #11
Did Dumb Donald just convict himself of employing underage girls (and possibly sex trafficking)? ificandream Jul 29 #12
Ohhh, pul-leaseeee, yes!!! 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 electric_blue68 Jul 29 #16
Uhm, no. It's long been known that Virginia Giuffre worked at Mar-a-lago when she was 16. Wiz Imp Jul 29 #26
First I'd heard of it. ificandream Aug 1 #50
It just makes me sick... CapnSteve Jul 29 #14
So they were arguing over teenage girls. Not the least bit surprising. Sick fucks. Solly Mack Jul 29 #17
A virgin is a valuable commodity in sex trafficking world. travelingthrulife Jul 30 #48
Dropped a dime on the perv, huh, Donnie? Kid Berwyn Jul 29 #18
... orangecrush Jul 29 #19
G O P MW67 Jul 29 #20
He's sinking deeper and deeper. mwb970 Jul 29 #22
Not really. Guys like Charlie Kirk are coming johnnyfins Jul 29 #30
We'll see. mwb970 Jul 30 #40
Neither do I. Just an example of the message johnnyfins Jul 30 #41
For the record, Giuffre was working at Mar-a-lago in 2000 (at age 16, not 17 as the article says) Wiz Imp Jul 29 #23
Appreciate the fact check. Thank you for posting this. emulatorloo Jul 29 #32
so WHAT IS TRUMP HIDING Skittles Jul 30 #39
Translation: He was angry because he considered her "his" sexual property . . . SarcasticSatyr Jul 29 #24
Uhm No. Wiz Imp Jul 29 #27
GODDAMN you, politico. A 16-year old is NOT a woman, she is a MINOR. niyad Jul 29 #36
trump lies often and a lot. republianmushroom Jul 29 #28
So, he knew her name? A locker room attendant? From how long ago? underpants Jul 29 #29
I know what I think. ananda Jul 29 #33
It sure is helpful that Virginia is dead, ain't it? choie Jul 29 #34
Yep. Her testimony survives, though. johnnyfins Jul 30 #42
Trump frantically spinning the story as usual. cstanleytech Jul 29 #35
He was asked on AF1 and at first he said "I don't know..." but couldn't shut up underpants Jul 30 #49
It's a bit late to report the theft, Donnie bucolic_frolic Jul 30 #43
"Trump thought he owned a 17 year old girl." Texin Jul 30 #44
Gaslighting to no end. spanone Jul 30 #45
You hire people, you steal property eom Maeve Jul 30 #46

markodochartaigh

(3,733 posts)
3. Growing up in Texas a half century ago in a family who struggled to stay in the working class,
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jul 29

it was common knowledge that many local employers would not hire you if you quit or lost your job working for one of their peers. They felt that they owned their employees, or at least that their employees owed them for providing them a living. Of course this created a class of workers who were not inclined to make any kind of "trouble" and who were poorly paid and treated. Unless you could move a few hundred miles away or get one of the few jobs working for a national business or the government you were trapped.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,448 posts)
7. In 2007, an anonymous Mar-a-Lago source said it was Epstein abusing (trying to abuse?) a masseuse
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jul 29

It is two sides of the same coin. The worker in question was allegedly someone Epstein hired away to abuse. His victims were known as masseuses

Lindsay Beyerstein (@beyerstein.bsky.social) 2025-07-29T18:03:02.451Z


Meanwhile, the Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach last night confirmed a Web site report that Epstein has been banned there. “He would use the spa to try to procure girls. But one of them, a masseuse about 18 years old, he tried to get her to do things,” a source told us. “Her father found out about it and went absolutely ape-[bleep]. Epstein’s not allowed back.” Epstein denies he is banned from Mar-a-Lago and says, in fact, he was recently invited to an event there.

https://pagesix.com/2007/10/15/sex-case-victims-lining-up/

Giuffre's father was a maintenance manager at Mar-a-Lago.

underpants

(192,432 posts)
31. That was the original original excuse
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:52 PM
Jul 29

Which would have been a nice clean summary ….BUT, hold on - here we go, Trump implied things which are what know about Epstein and THEN brought up a 16 year old girl working as a locker room attendant 25 years ago that Epstein “stole” ….,from HIM. He did that today. He remembers that.

You steal property.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,756 posts)
6. We are talking about the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jul 29



Even though it is now clear the election was rigged, how in the FUCK did over 70 million vote for him AGAIN

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make sure and watch all 3 parts...

speak easy

(12,348 posts)
25. So the GE was rigged, so Dems might as well not turn out
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:18 PM
Jul 29

the midterms because they are likely to be rigged too. Is that what you are saying? I can think of any claim more counter prodcutive. We have a full on emergency not that demands our full attention. Unless there are concrete provable instances that pass muster ... to shore up conduct of the midterms, what's the point? To depress turnout? Surely that is not what you want?

Why post this under an OP about Epstein?

progressoid

(51,782 posts)
11. So Donnie barely knows Epstein but remembers a 17 year old employee that Epstein poached.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 06:25 PM
Jul 29

MmmHmm....

Wiz Imp

(6,702 posts)
26. Uhm, no. It's long been known that Virginia Giuffre worked at Mar-a-lago when she was 16.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:19 PM
Jul 29

There is no law prohibiting 16 year olds from being employed by resorts. In this case, it was apparently a summer job and she likely got the job because her father was a maintenance manager there. Giuffre has repeatedly said that she never observed any wrongdoing by Trump. And you jump from this to thinking it could be evidence of sex trafficking?

Nothing incriminating here, just lies from Trump about why he broke off the friendship with Epstein.

ificandream

(11,319 posts)
50. First I'd heard of it.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 01:33 PM
Aug 1

And given the responses to this news about her, a lot of other people didn't know either.

CapnSteve

(355 posts)
14. It just makes me sick...
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 06:42 PM
Jul 29

...everyone knew this about Donnie before 2016, before 2010, before 2000. Bad actors (Russians, Republicans, the pedophile billionaire class) manipulated social media and low info, non-critical thinkers fell into line.

There needs to be a reckoning and justice for his many victims. Take his money and throw him in jail, along with anyone who enabled this bullshit. Now.

We the people have this power. Vote vote vote...

johnnyfins

(2,704 posts)
30. Not really. Guys like Charlie Kirk are coming
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:48 PM
Jul 29

to his rescue. Kirk just called the actual files, some "Comey File". He went on to say that Maxwell is where the REAL info is.

These files will NEVER be released under TSF. They may never be released at all. Maxwell will either stay in prison or be disappeared.

TSF will eventually skate on this just like everything else. It will dog him until the end of his term, but he will skate. It's a sick fucking world we live in.

johnnyfins

(2,704 posts)
41. Neither do I. Just an example of the message
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 06:43 AM
Jul 30

They are trying to put out there. Files=hoax, truth=Maxwell.

Wiz Imp

(6,702 posts)
23. For the record, Giuffre was working at Mar-a-lago in 2000 (at age 16, not 17 as the article says)
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:02 PM
Jul 29

when Maxwell came up to her while Giuffre was reading a book on massage therapy and Maxwell offered her a job with Epstein to give him massages. It is well know that Trump and Epstein continued to be close friends and socialize with tach other until at least 2004. Now Trump is claiming he "broke up" with Epstein over Epstein "stealing his employees". So why did he wait 4 years to do it after? Epstein & Trump remained close for 4 years after Giuffre was lured away from Mar-a-lago. This is a rather obvious lie on Trump's part.

SarcasticSatyr

(1,344 posts)
24. Translation: He was angry because he considered her "his" sexual property . . .
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:11 PM
Jul 29

He's a POS rapist and pedophile.

Wiz Imp

(6,702 posts)
27. Uhm No.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:24 PM
Jul 29
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221
The unsealed files don’t appear to include any allegation that Trump had sex with Giuffre or other women working for Epstein.

Giuffre also denied aspects of a reporter’s claim that she said: “Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s. He didn’t partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He’d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ‘you’ve got the life.’”

“’Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s.’ That part is true. ‘He didn’t partake in any’ of — any sex with any of us but he flirted with me.’ It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us, but it’s not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me,” Giuffre clarified later.

underpants

(192,432 posts)
29. So, he knew her name? A locker room attendant? From how long ago?
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jul 29

25 years ago???

Giuffre met Epstein’s accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, at Mar-a-Lago in 2000, she told the BBC, and she offered her an interview to train as a massage therapist. Giuffre was ultimately recruited and groomed by Maxwell and raped by Epstein on numerous occasions after being ostensibly hired as a “masseuse” by the pedophile.

underpants

(192,432 posts)
49. He was asked on AF1 and at first he said "I don't know..." but couldn't shut up
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jul 30

Then he confirmed that it was Virginia. Mind this was a 16 year old girl working at the spa as a summer job or at best part time 25 years ago and he remembers her.

Texin

(2,791 posts)
44. "Trump thought he owned a 17 year old girl."
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 09:00 AM
Jul 30

"Owned" as in chattel property? Or "owned" as in his personal sex slave? The more he talks, the deeper the hole. Keeps digging.

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