innocent individual children, it risks the lives of all children in schools as well as their teachers.

Some vax are a pharmacy procedure, some are billed as a phys visit even if done in a pharmacy. At least that's what I've been told.

Or ask the pharmacy how it’s billed and if they have special programs for under-insured.

I originally got one on the 60s and then I had one back in the 90s when there was an outbreak. I was attending college and I was told I had to get one to attend, so I did. But I don’t remember it being a two shot like I read it should have been, so was unsure whether I needed another.

I asked my doctor If I should get an additional one and she said it couldn’t hurt. Pharmacy said the same, and that’s what I was reading from reputable sources online, so I got one. I got it at the pharmacy and it was free under my insurance.

Necessary? Maybe not, but I feel better having gotten it. In any case, I should be well covered now!

If we had the measles as kids.

I recall the word being mentioned, but not if I had it, or if I had the series of innoculations.

should ask our doctors if a measles vaccination might be appropriate. They may draw a titer, a blood test, to check your immunity. The cut off has generally been given as 1957. But the last sixty years since the measles vaccination was introduced were a different time than what we are headed into. There was a level of "herd immunity" because vaccination was so widespread. Before that most people just got measles.
Now there may be large numbers of people who are unvaccinated and who haven't yet had measles. This could cause outbreaks which increase the likelihood of exposure for everyone.
Generally older people who had measles or who were vaccinated were considered likely immune.
But measles in the elderly can be life
threatening. And without checking a titer you can't be sure of your immunity.

Also, at this time, measles vaccination, mmr, is covered under Medicare Part D. Who knows if that will continue.

The biggest fear was that so many Moms were pregnant (baby boom time) and their school-age kids might bring the virus home to infect the entire family.

We used to call the roseola version the "three-day measles" and the much more serious rubella version the "German measles."

Once the vaccines came out in the early 60s, everyone got the shots and later the oral vaccines, and those days were over. Now they're back again.

To a good old days style “health” strategy..you have 8-10 kids with the expectation that some half of them get stunted, afflicted or worst case die from preventable disease. That’s still a net positive in the ledger going by numbers I guess..

I have a niece (who is licensed physician's assistant) who won't vax her kids. Her oldest child was born in July 2020, and he had his vaccinations for the first six months, but then she stopped. Her second child, born in 2024 has had no vaccinations at all.

Our Democracy is based on a constitution. It's defined and delineated by a constitution.

But one of the constitution's--the charter of Our Democracy--goals is liberty. There was weird outrage a few years ago at the utterly true claim that "democracy" was no in the constitution. Outrage at truth ... Dunno know. But the Constitution does set up a kind of democracy. A "kind."

"Thou must" is not liberty. It can be religion based. It can be religion based (but I repeat myself). It can be science-based. Yet what's the charter of Our Democracy? Mandates are orders, compulsions, coercions. Hardly liberty, albeit a majority can be coercive and oppressive.

My (now former) church was anti-vaccine. Yet it was "democratic" in that if parents had their kids vaccinated--like mine--nobody cared. And, you know, nothing bad resulted from it. In the locally grand order of things, that was unimportant. Wife-beating, married men at strip clubs on shabbat, a bit more important. But participation was optional.

MAGA wants less people in our country

We want fewer MAGAs in our country....

but unfortunately for the childhood vaccinations, most of these idiots are vaccinated but are choosing to screw their own children.

This is all I think of when there is talk about how vaccines are dangerous and my child needs an exemption. You can't ignore the iron lung breathing for you when Polio strikes...

that could be a risk even to those of us who were vaccinated as children.

But polio incidence is strongly correlated not with Xian anti-vaxxism but with strong fundie Islamism, if not militarism.

It's not meaningless that polio incidence in Africa corresponds--genetically--with sites of Islamism in places like, oh, Afghanistan.

Language, like genetics and disease, requires people who bear the language/genes/virus or bacteria.

Those damn exemptions for "deeply held religious beliefs™" are going to be the death of many; a huge step backward to Bronze Age cultures where 'interpreting' the entrails of a goat and the shaking of chicken bones over the sick was considered 'medicine.'