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Trump Orders Subs Closer to Russia in Rare Nuclear Threat
Source: New York Times (gift article/no paywall)
By David E. Sanger
David E. Sanger reports on the White House and national security, and frequently writes on nuclear issues. b
Aug. 1, 2025, 2:04 p.m. ET
President Trump said on his social media feed on Friday that he had ordered two nuclear submarines to be positioned in regions within reach of Russia, a rare threat of nuclear escalation that he said was prompted by online threats from Russias former president, Dmitri Medvedev.
Mr. Trump said he had ordered the submarines to be positioned in the appropriate regions, just in case these foolish and inflammatory statements are more than just that. He added: Words are very important, and can often lead to unintended consequences, I hope this will not be one of those instances.
Mr. Medvedev, who often serves as something of an online attack dog for the Kremlin, had said in a social media post of his own on Thursday that Mr. Trump should picture the apocalyptic television series The Walking Dead and referred to the Soviet Unions system for launching a last-ditch, automatic nuclear strike.
Because nuclear submarine movements are among the Pentagons most closely held tactical maneuvers, it will most likely prove impossible to know if Mr. Trump is truly repositioning the submarines, or just trying to make a point.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/01/us/politics/trump-nuclear-submarines-russia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.a08.4XuP.iiWlyYdpD0V1&smid=url-share

Dave Bowman
(5,703 posts)ificandream
(11,298 posts)SoFlaBro
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angrychair
(11,022 posts)Guess I'll finish it the same.
Dave Bowman
(5,703 posts)róisín_dubh
(12,093 posts)Only in my late 40s, but I grew up terrified of being vaporised, as I lived so close to not only a weapons station and NYC
tonekat
(2,310 posts)The sooner the better. This is insane.
Interesting that the NYT has this story halfway down the page online.
Dave Bowman
(5,703 posts)ificandream
(11,298 posts)Dave Bowman
(5,703 posts)Dave Bowman
(5,703 posts)xocetaceans
(4,261 posts)...adversary knows that resolve and determination exist in conjunction with that force or not. This sort of childishly stupid verbal one-upsmanship is equally what was wrong with what was W's "Bring It On!" approach to "the war on terror" and what is wrong with Trump's current announcement-based policy approach. Moreover, this clearly moves defense policy into the realm of TACO, and that is dangerous because TACO implies a lack of both resolve and determination. Everyone knows that Trump is constitutionally weak in mind, body, and spirit.
If there actually have been "repositionings" of submarines, hopefully Vodka Pete has not been discussing it on Signal or whatever unsecured channels he has decided to use out of his lazy ignorance and lack of discipline.
Justice matters.
(8,789 posts)Russian subs have been seen surfacing near Cape Cod's shores. What's more worrisome is, their "stealth" systems shield their detection (the Navy has similar "stealth" gear, btw).
The "end" of the "Cold War" was a lie. It never ended BUT talks about it still ongoing stopped.
LisaL
(47,318 posts)war in one day, and not on having a nuclear war with Russia.
MAGATs must be deliriously happy at this new development.
PSPS
(14,834 posts)Yes, discussed exclusively on insecure signal chat boards.
LisaL
(47,318 posts)NT
PSPS
(14,834 posts)flashman13
(1,482 posts)Boomers can reach Russia no matter where they are located.
Stealth is their primary defense. Even hinting at a sub's location puts them in danger. Of course to Trump they are just props in his cheesy realty show.
LudwigPastorius
(13,243 posts)is he going to hand those subs over to Putin as a gift?
James48
(4,900 posts)People need to follow this closely- moving subs doesnt happen for no reason.
From The Guardian:
Trump moves nuclear submarines after ex-Russia presidents menacing tweet
Order comes after presidents anger at tweet from Dmitry Medvedev which called Trumps threat to sanction Russia over Ukraine a step towards war
Putin offers no hint of concessions as he says he wants stable peace in Ukraine
Andrew Roth in Washington
Fri 1 Aug 2025 20.17 EDT
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Donald Trump has said that he has deployed nuclear-capable submarines to the appropriate regions in response to a threatening tweet by Russias former president Dmitry Medvedev, suggesting that he would be ready to launch a nuclear strike as tensions rise over the war in Ukraine.
In a post on Truth Social on Friday, Trump wrote that he had decided to reposition the nuclear submarines because of highly provocative statements by Medvedev, noting he was now the deputy chairman of Russias security council.
Medvedev had earlier said that Trumps threats to sanction Russia and a recent ultimatum were a threat and a step towards war.
I have ordered two Nuclear Submarines to be positioned in the appropriate regions, just in case these foolish and inflammatory statements are more than just that, Trump responded. Words are very important, and can often lead to unintended consequences, I hope this will not be one of those instances.
He did not specify whether he was referring to nuclear-powered or nuclear-armed submarines.
Asked later by reporters why he ordered the submarine movement, Trump said: A threat was made by a former president of Russia and were going to protect our people.
More:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/01/trump-nuclear-submarines-russia-ukraine
Mysterian
(5,854 posts)Trump is Putin's puppet.