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BumRushDaShow

(158,566 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 03:55 PM Aug 3

BLS commissioner reacts to Trump firing

Source: The Hill

08/03/25 11:44 AM ET


Erika McEntarfer, commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), whom President Trump fired following a dismal jobs report, said it was the “honor of my life” to serve in the position.

“It has been the honor of my life to serve as Commissioner of BLS alongside the many dedicated civil servants tasked with measuring a vast and dynamic economy,” she said in a post on the social media platform Bluesky. “It is vital and important work and I thank them for their service to this nation.”

McEntarfer was nominated by former President Biden in 2023 and confirmed by the Senate in 2024 in a bipartisan 86-8 vote as the 16th commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is part of the Department of Labor. Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who were both senators at the time, voted in favor of her nomination.

Her post comes after Trump fired the commissioner last week for “inaccuracies” and “incompetence” after presenting a low job growth report for July.

Read more: https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/5434174-bls-commissioner-mcentarfer-response/



It has been the honor of my life to serve as Commissioner of BLS alongside the many dedicated civil servants tasked with measuring a vast and dynamic economy. It is vital and important work and I thank them for their service to this nation.

Erika McEntarfer (@erikamcentarfer.bsky.social) 2025-08-02T02:18:13.556Z
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BLS commissioner reacts to Trump firing (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 3 OP
I wonder which Fox News personality will take her job. SunSeeker Aug 3 #1
Or Walt Nauta in that position.... Bengus81 Aug 3 #2
I'm sure he's totaled up Agolf's score card, so that makes him qualified? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 3 #4
We're fast approaching the twenty jobs each stage of the Trump regime Prairie Gates Aug 3 #7
Borowitz thinks George Santos will get the job JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 4 #17
Trump's Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook (NYT gift article) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 3 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Karasu Aug 3 #5
A person of knowledge, class, and distinction Prairie Gates Aug 3 #6
The payroll job growth numbers were ALL POSITIVE!, and grew 284% over the last 2 months, MAGA! progree Aug 3 #8
Every time one of these Trump idiots opens their mouth they show that nobody in this administration has any clue about Wiz Imp Aug 3 #9
Needed to add - unlike what this idiot Hassett said, monthly revision to the data are NOT corrections. Wiz Imp Aug 3 #10
Sampling error per BLS technical note. And non-sampling error progree Aug 3 #12
So those revisions for May and June were pretty much within the 90% confidence interval. Wiz Imp Aug 3 #14
Thanks, I ETA'd my #12 above nt progree Aug 3 #15
Biggest Job Revisions Since 2020 Expose Pitfall of Economic Data progree Aug 3 #11
As I mentioned on Friday, large monthly revisions are often a sign of a turning point in the economic cycle. Wiz Imp Aug 3 #13
"Reacts" feels like a stretch. maxsolomon Aug 4 #16

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,664 posts)
4. I'm sure he's totaled up Agolf's score card, so that makes him qualified?
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 04:34 PM
Aug 3

{apply appropriate emoticon here}

Prairie Gates

(5,944 posts)
7. We're fast approaching the twenty jobs each stage of the Trump regime
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:03 PM
Aug 3

I'm sure BLS will be added to the portfolio of Leavitt or one of her flunkies.

LetMyPeopleVote

(168,358 posts)
3. Trump's Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook (NYT gift article)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 04:21 PM
Aug 3

In firing the head of the agency that collects employment statistics, the president underscored his tendency to suppress facts he doesn’t like and promote his own version of reality.



Trump’s Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/u...

Jane Mayer (@janemayer.bsky.social) 2025-08-03T14:43:25.797Z

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/us/politics/trump-bls-jobs-facts.html?unlocked_article_code=1.bU8.uevb.5cZlTEaDzRQn&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

An old rule in Washington holds that you are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. President Trump seems determined to prove that wrong.....

The message, however, was unmistakable: Government officials who deal in data now fear they have to toe the line or risk losing their jobs. Career scientists, longtime intelligence analysts and nonpartisan statisticians who serve every president regardless of political party with neutral information on countless matters, such as weather patterns and vaccine efficacy, now face pressure as never before to conform to the alternative reality enforced by the president and his team.

Mr. Trump has never been especially wedded to facts, routinely making up his own numbers, repeating falsehoods and conspiracy theories even after they are debunked and denigrating the very concept of independent fact-checking. But his efforts since reclaiming the White House to make the rest of government adopt his versions of the truth have gone further than in his first term and increasingly remind scholars of the way authoritarian leaders in other countries have sought to control information.

“Democracy can’t realistically exist without reliable epistemic infrastructure,” said Michael Patrick Lynch, author of the recently published “On Truth in Politics” and a professor at the University of Connecticut.

“Anti-democratic, authoritarian leaders know this,” he said. “That is why they will seize every opportunity to control sources of information. As Bacon taught us, knowledge is power. But preventing or controlling access to knowledge is also power.”....

“It’s a post-factual world that Trump is looking for, and he’s got these sycophants working for him that don’t challenge him on facts,” said Barbara Comstock, a former Republican congresswoman from Virginia.

But firing the messenger, she said, will not make the economy any better. “The reality is the economy is worse, and he can’t keep saying it’s better,” she said. “Joe Biden learned that; people still experience the experience they have, no matter how much” you tell them otherwise.

We can no longer trust any numbers from the trump administration

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Prairie Gates

(5,944 posts)
6. A person of knowledge, class, and distinction
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:02 PM
Aug 3

This woman has no need to step into the gutter with Trump. She'll land on her feet and the only harm will be to the American people.

progree

(12,240 posts)
8. The payroll job growth numbers were ALL POSITIVE!, and grew 284% over the last 2 months, MAGA!
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 06:18 PM
Aug 3

Why anyone would call this bad, I don't know. It is astounding positive growth!

Monthly changes (in thousands): https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
May: +19 THOUSAND!!!
June: +14 THOUSAND!!!
July: +73 THOUSAND!!!

July/May = 73/19 = 3.84 fold (that's a 284% increase) in the monthly job growth rate, in JUST 2 MONTHS

end sarc

==================================================
The separate Household Survey's Employed numbers were even worse in the last 3 months, monthly changes in thousands:
(696) 93 (260)
parentheses denote negative numbers
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12000000?output_view=net_1mth

==================================================
The Black unemployment rate (7.2%) is the worst since the pandemic-era October 2021
It was 6.2% in January. Latest (July) : 7.2%. That's quite a climb in just 6 months.
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006
Didn't Trump ask Black people, during his campaign, "What have you got to lose"?

Many more links: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143505265#post17


Wiz Imp

(6,642 posts)
9. Every time one of these Trump idiots opens their mouth they show that nobody in this administration has any clue about
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 06:58 PM
Aug 3

statistics. And it's clear, nobody has any clue how the BLS does their jobs and they don't want to know. It's no secret how the numbers are calculated. Their website contains the handbook of methods for each program so absolutely anybody can go in and see how the data is developed. For example, here is a link to the handbook for the CES program (jobs count).

https://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/ces/design.htm

A Trump idiot was on Fox this morning and spouted this nonsense:
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/03/trump-jobs-labor-statistics-fired

"I don't think it was explained very well and I think that markets might be as much unsettled by the fact that the data are so noisy," Hassett told "Fox News Sunday."

"So imagine if the revision in the data — so the correction of errors — is five times bigger than the number itself. Then that makes you wonder 'well can I believe this number at all?' And I think that that's actually something that needs to be fixed, it needs to be fixed fast," Hassent said.
"I think that the president is right to call for new leadership. I think Erika is a terrific person, but I think that it's time for someone to get in there and fix this," Hassett said, arguing that the data never recovered from problems that began during the pandemic.
"If the data aren't that good, then it's a real problem for the U.S. And right now the data are — have become very unreliable with these massive revisions over the last few years."

and on Meet the Press:
Hassett, in a subsequent interview with NBC's "Meet the Press," said Trump wanted his own people running BLS to achieve "more transparent and more reliable" data.
"If there are big changes and big revisions — we expect more big revisions for the jobs data in September, for example — then we want to know why," he said.
But pressed repeatedly for hard evidence that the data were rigged or manipulated for political reasons, Hassett would say only that the revisions proved the data were wrong.


The reason for revisions is explained very clearly on BLS' website. BLS surveys employers to get a job count for the week of the 12th each month. In order to report data in a timely manner, that generally gives them at most about 2 weeks to collect as many employers responses as possible while still giving them time to calculate the estimates. Of course, many employers are unable to report their data that quickly so their data is included in the calculation for the revision but not the initial estimate. It's that simple. Why were May and June revised down so much? Because a lot of employers who reported late showed decreases in their employment for those months. The data must be kept confidential so individual employers can't be named, but again, it's a simple explanation. No manipulation. No conspiracy. Straightforward statistics.

You know what hurts the quality of the estimates? Many employers who were randomly selected for the sample refuse to report their data monthly. I can't report specific numbers, but I can say that a large percentage of those employers selected for the sample refuse to report. The sample is drawn to maximize accuracy under the scenario where they get 100% response. Of course they don't get anywhere close to that. And the right wingers who complain about the data are the same ones who refuse to participate. You want better data? Every business organization in the country should demand of their members that they report their data to BLS when they are selected for the survey. And report in as timely a manner as possible. Of course that will never happen....

Wiz Imp

(6,642 posts)
10. Needed to add - unlike what this idiot Hassett said, monthly revision to the data are NOT corrections.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:10 PM
Aug 3

The data are estimates. The revisions are estimates. BLS doesn't claim the data to be 100% accurate because that would be totally impossible to do unless you required every single employer in the country to report their number of employees every month. Hassett calling the revision "corrections" proves he has no clue about how statistical surveys work. It's really quite pathetic that someone in his position is so ignorant.

One more thing - the ultimate revisions (which are the "benchmark" revisions) have not been "massive" as he alleges. Yes last year was larger than normal but was actually smaller than in 2009 (see chart below). What the chart doesn't show is the final revision for 2024 was far smaller than the initial estimate (I don't feel like looking it up now but it was under 600,000).

progree

(12,240 posts)
12. Sampling error per BLS technical note. And non-sampling error
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:24 PM
Aug 3
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.tn.htm

For example, the confidence interval for the monthly change in total nonfarm
employment from the establishment survey is on the order of plus or minus 136,000.
Suppose the estimate of nonfarm employment increases by 50,000 from one month to
the next. The 90-percent confidence interval on the monthly change would range from
-86,000 to +186,000 (50,000 +/- 136,000). These figures do not mean that the sample
results are off by these magnitudes, but rather that there is about a 90-percent
chance that the true over-the-month change lies within this interval. Since this
range includes values of less than zero, we could not say with confidence that
nonfarm employment had, in fact, increased that month. If, however, the reported
nonfarm employment rise was 250,000, then all of the values within the 90-percent
confidence interval would be greater than zero. In this case, it is likely (at
least a 90-percent chance) that nonfarm employment had, in fact, risen that month.

At an unemployment rate of around 6.0 percent, the 90-percent confidence interval
for the monthly change in unemployment as measured by the household survey is
about +/- 300,000, and for the monthly change in the unemployment rate it is about
+/- 0.2 percentage point.

. . .

The household and establishment surveys are also affected by nonsampling error,
which can occur for many reasons, including the failure to sample a segment of the
population, inability to obtain information for all respondents in the sample,
inability or unwillingness of respondents to provide correct information on a
timely basis, mistakes made by respondents, and errors made in the collection or
processing of the data.

. . .

=======================================================
ETA
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
May was revised down by 125k
June was revised down by 133k

As Wiz Imp points out, both are within the 90% confidence interval for sampling error (136k). And then non-sampling error like late responses to surveys are additional

Wiz Imp

(6,642 posts)
14. So those revisions for May and June were pretty much within the 90% confidence interval.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:35 PM
Aug 3

Simple statistical explanation that doesn't involve manipulating data. It does, however, require some understanding of statistics (of which Trump and everyone in his administration have none).

progree

(12,240 posts)
11. Biggest Job Revisions Since 2020 Expose Pitfall of Economic Data
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:14 PM
Aug 3

Biggest Job Revisions Since 2020 Expose Pitfall of Economic Data
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3505898

Checking against private sources sounds smart, but warning: they normally vary a great deal from the BLS numbers.
Also, BLS's big difference in employment statistics between Establishment Survey and Household Survey
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3506135

Wiz Imp

(6,642 posts)
13. As I mentioned on Friday, large monthly revisions are often a sign of a turning point in the economic cycle.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 07:28 PM
Aug 3

The sample can be slow to fully pick up the shift from expansion to decline. I think these revisions are a strong sign that we may be on the verge of a recession. That is if we aren't already in one.

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