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progree

(12,240 posts) Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:51 PM Aug 7

US to rewrite its past national climate reports

Source: AFP (Agence France-Presse)

US President Donald Trump's administration is revising past editions of the nation's premier climate report -- its latest move to undermine the scientific consensus on human-caused global warming.

The decision, announced by Energy Secretary Chris Wright during a CNN appearance Tuesday night, follows the government's revocation of the Endangerment Finding, a scientific determination that underpins a host of regulations aimed at curbing greenhouse gas emissions.

Asked by CNN's Kaitlan Collins why previous editions of the National Climate Assessment were no longer available online, former fracking company CEO Wright responded: "Because we're reviewing them, and we will come out with updated reports on those and with comments on those."

First published in 2000, the National Climate Assessment has long been viewed as a cornerstone of the US government's understanding of climate science, synthesizing input from federal agencies and hundreds of external experts.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-to-rewrite-its-past-national-climate-reports/ar-AA1K6ZUI

This follows the release of a new climate study from the Department of Energy, authored by climate change contrarians, that among other shortcomings, misrepresented the work of cited climate scientists.

It's surprising (?) that the small government anti-bureaucracy cost-cutting anti-waste party is going to spend resources on rewriting past reports. Couldn't they just say those old reports are just the ravings of woke Commie environmentalist whackos, and let the new report "debunk" those key findings?

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US to rewrite its past national climate reports (Original Post) progree Aug 7 OP

I hope the old reports are archived somewhere DBoon Aug 7 #1

NOAA sure sounds ultra-extreme, far-left-wing progree Aug 7 #5

only 3.5 years left, everything will be rewritten ala 1984 by then nt msongs Aug 7 #2

This erasing of history is pathetic and diabolical bucolic_frolic Aug 7 #3

Oh wow, talk about going down the memory hole... DSandra Aug 7 #4

Hopefully archive.org has this progree Aug 7 #6

Nothing ever "disappears" anymore. As someone said "The Web isn't the Library of Alexandria". Everything is everywhere. CincyDem Aug 7 #7

These are new numbers , totally new numbers , never been seen before numbers dweller Aug 7 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Dotty Aug 7 #9

'Worst fears': Trump compared to Stalin for sabotaging decades of research progree Aug 8 #10

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed-- A Badger Aug 8 #11

DBoon

(24,141 posts)

1. I hope the old reports are archived somewhere

Reply to progree (Original post)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:53 PM

Aug 7

on edit: an arrive of the 5th report is available at https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/61592

This is a US government site, so who knows how long it will be up

progree

(12,240 posts)

5. NOAA sure sounds ultra-extreme, far-left-wing

Reply to DBoon (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:15 PM

Aug 7

(sarc)

https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/61592

As a repository, the NOAA IR retains documents in their original published format to ensure public access to scientific information.

OMG! Six months on, and there are still corners of federal government who retain this kind of lefty sentimentality.

msongs

(72,137 posts)

2. only 3.5 years left, everything will be rewritten ala 1984 by then nt

Reply to progree (Original post)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 06:55 PM

Aug 7

bucolic_frolic

(51,984 posts)

3. This erasing of history is pathetic and diabolical

Reply to progree (Original post)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:12 PM

Aug 7

It's also an abuse of power. You cannot change the past. Not even by rewriting it or destroying what it left. This is insane.

DSandra

(1,670 posts)

4. Oh wow, talk about going down the memory hole...

Reply to progree (Original post)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:14 PM

Aug 7

Everything even before this administration started should've been archived, in anticipation of things like this.

progree

(12,240 posts)

6. Hopefully archive.org has this

Reply to DSandra (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 07:20 PM

Aug 7

Last edited Thu Aug 7, 2025, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)

although I worry that sometimes the pages being archived have coded dynamic elements and that doesn't get preserved correctly or at all. Some graphics ... Anyway I've seen some pages there that were missing a lot of pieces.

ETA - Also things aren't all organized and linked together like originally.

I use archive.org a lot, and it's one of maybe just 15 organizations that I've supported over the years. Along with Wikipedia.

CincyDem

(7,185 posts)

7. Nothing ever "disappears" anymore. As someone said "The Web isn't the Library of Alexandria". Everything is everywhere.

Reply to progree (Original post)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 08:32 PM

Aug 7

dweller

(26,985 posts)

8. These are new numbers , totally new numbers , never been seen before numbers

Reply to progree (Original post)

Thu Aug 7, 2025, 09:21 PM

Aug 7

Where have we heard that before ?

Do we start burning books soon ?

✌🏻

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progree

(12,240 posts)

10. 'Worst fears': Trump compared to Stalin for sabotaging decades of research

Reply to progree (Original post)

Fri Aug 8, 2025, 12:11 AM

Aug 8

Raw Story, 8/7/25
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-climate/

He [Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who previously worked in the oil and gas industry] added to CNN that the climate reports “weren’t fair in broad-based assessments of climate change,” and “When you get into departments and look at stuff that’s there and you find stuff that’s objectionable, you want to fix it.”

The statement has triggered outrage and fear among scientists, who believe that their findings will be politicized or outright covered up.

Michael Mann, a renowned climate science researcher, told The Guardian, “This is exactly what Joseph Stalin did." The Soviet dictator was notorious for politicizing government data, even jailing and executing census analysts who produced figures that embarrassed the state.

Interesting he brought up the Census - you've probably read today that tRump wants the next census to exclude people without legal residency, despite the Constitution's wording to count the "whole number of persons in each state"
https://www.npr.org/2025/08/07/nx-s1-5265650/new-census-trump-immigrants-counted

A Badger

(23 posts)

11. "And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed--

Reply to progree (Original post)

Fri Aug 8, 2025, 04:41 AM

Aug 8

if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'”

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