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Emrys

(8,698 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 07:04 AM Aug 10

Misinterpretation Row Clouds US-Russia Peace Efforts Ahead of Alaska Summit

Source: EU Today

Confusion continues to surround the forthcoming United States–Russia summit on Ukraine, scheduled for 15 August in Alaska, following allegations that US special envoy Steve Witkoff misinterpreted key elements of the Russian position during talks with President Vladimir Putin in Moscow.

The meeting, announced earlier this week by Presidents Donald Trump and Putin, is intended to explore ways to end hostilities. However, accounts from European and Ukrainian officials, reported in Bild and corroborated by other sources, indicate that Moscow has not altered its core demands since early 2022. These include the complete withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from the four occupied regions of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson, alongside recognition of Russian control over Crimea.

It had been suggested in earlier US briefings that Russia was prepared to withdraw from parts of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson in exchange for Ukrainian forces leaving parts of the Donetsk region. However, according to Bild, this was the result of a misunderstanding. In reality, Putin reportedly called for Ukraine to withdraw entirely from all four regions, without offering reciprocal territorial concessions.

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The misinterpretation attributed to Witkoff has prompted criticism in Kyiv and in several European capitals. Ukrainian officials have described his handling of the talks as “unprofessional”, alleging that he conveyed an overly optimistic account of Moscow’s stance to President Trump. Some German government representatives are said to share this view.

A conference call on Thursday between Witkoff, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Vice-President JD Vance, and European counterparts reportedly reinforced the perception of disorganisation within the US negotiating team. Observers noted apparent divisions: Rubio emphasised involving European partners in the process, while Vance and Witkoff appeared to favour limiting European participation to post-factum briefings.



Read more: https://eutoday.net/misinterpretation-ahead-of-alaska-summit/



This new twist to the preparations for the Alaska summit has been picked up by a number of outlets, all referencing the Bild story.

To describe Witkoff as "unprofessional" and mention "disorganisation" in the US negotiating team is being overly generous.

European parties to the current pre-summit talks had to repeatedly press Witkoff to clarify what Putin had actually offered. They received three versions in a relatively short space of time, according to the Wall Street Journal:



This adds to the controversy around my earlier LBN post: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143509933

It also places in context Trump's sinister warning a couple of days ago that Zelensky "better be prepared to sign something" (notwithstanding that the Ukrainian Constitution wouldn't allow Zelensky to sign away its land without a formal referendum - obviously all but impossible to organize while hostilities rage, even if it had any chance of being agreed by the electorate, which seems unlikely given past polling).
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Misinterpretation Row Clouds US-Russia Peace Efforts Ahead of Alaska Summit (Original Post) Emrys Aug 10 OP
What's the meeting really about? gab13by13 Aug 10 #1
It's not about peace.............. Lovie777 Aug 10 #2
It's also about Crumb The 1st receiving new moniss Aug 10 #3
Witkoff really seems to be a Dummkopf mackdaddy Aug 10 #4
looks... myohmy2 Aug 10 #5
First, I want to see a clip of trump trying to pronounce Zaporizhzhia Bayard Aug 10 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Aug 10 #7
You mean, he didn't hear what he said he heard ? republianmushroom Aug 10 #8
Laughable incompetence... LudwigPastorius Aug 10 #9
With Trump, confusion reigns everywhere, so... ananda Aug 10 #10

gab13by13

(29,456 posts)
1. What's the meeting really about?
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 07:30 AM
Aug 10

So we have Putin and Putin's puppet, who is representing Ukraine?

Calling this a peace meeting is insulting to everyone's intelligence.

Lovie777

(19,825 posts)
2. It's not about peace..............
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 07:52 AM
Aug 10

it's about surrender and keeps the doors open for more aggression.

moniss

(7,901 posts)
3. It's also about Crumb The 1st receiving new
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 09:47 AM
Aug 10

orders from Putin. Witkoff is one of those people who flits around from place to place, knowing little about any of them, and comes up with agreements that end up resolving no underlying issues but merely have stalemate points in them so that each party ends up still in a "you didn't do this, so we're not doing that" scenario. Diplomacy and conflict resolution by a billionaire real estate mogul may work in commercial real estate but international relations are a different matter.

Witkoff has stated he thinks Putin is a "great guy". Tells us all we need to know. He likely has high praise for MBS as well despite the butchering of Kashoggi. Witkoff is the type who adores the authoritarian strongman and considers their brutal actions to not be a problem but instead sees them as decisive actions to be praised.

mackdaddy

(1,837 posts)
4. Witkoff really seems to be a Dummkopf
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:09 AM
Aug 10

And he is supposed to be one of the 'adults' in the room.

myohmy2

(3,640 posts)
5. looks...
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 10:37 AM
Aug 10

..like we're about to throw Ukraine under the bus...

...hey world, you'd better think long and hard about anything the U.S. says or does...

...this ain't your father's United States...

...

Bayard

(26,574 posts)
6. First, I want to see a clip of trump trying to pronounce Zaporizhzhia
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 12:38 PM
Aug 10

Second, did Ukraine agree to having him represent their interests in this meeting?

Response to Emrys (Original post)

republianmushroom

(21,093 posts)
8. You mean, he didn't hear what he said he heard ?
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 12:45 PM
Aug 10

This administration still sucking up to the puppet master.

Only the best people !

LudwigPastorius

(13,237 posts)
9. Laughable incompetence...
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 12:58 PM
Aug 10

What do you expect from a guy whose experience in international diplomacy extends as far as facilitating New York real estate deals for Donald Trump?

ananda

(32,856 posts)
10. With Trump, confusion reigns everywhere, so...
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 02:20 PM
Aug 10

that peace prize is just so hard to manipulate.

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