Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Your
cat
loves me
more


I
got
your
nose
I got
your
nose
Give me all
of your
giggles!
Give me
all of your
cookies!
Now!
Something
pithy
this way
comes
Fuck
that
noise
You do not
want to
know
what I
think about

Is
TACO
Dead
Yet?


Check out
all the stickies
on Grovelbot's
Big Board!

BumRushDaShow

(158,566 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 11:37 AM Aug 10

RFK Jr.'s vaccine pullback stokes fears of lost medical breakthroughs

Source: msn/Axios

2h


Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s decision to cut federal funding for mRNA vaccine research is the latest in a series of moves that have the potential to crush future medical breakthroughs and accelerate a brain drain.

Why it matters: America has historically led the world in scientific innovation — driving economic growth, strengthening national security, and attracting global talent. But scientists, including some who served in Trump's first administration, warn that lead is slipping away.

  • The mRNA divestment "risks stalling progress in some of the most promising areas of modern medicine," Jerome Adams, surgeon general during the first Trump administration and now a professor at Purdue University, told Axios.
  • "Walking away from this technology now would be like pulling funding from antibiotics after penicillin or from computers after the microchip. It's short-sighted and puts us at a disadvantage globally."


  • State of play: Kennedy said last week that HHS's Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority would pull nearly $500 million worth of contracts with universities, drug companies and other labs working on new mRNA vaccines.

  • No new mRNA-based projects will be launched as the administration shifts to "safer, broader vaccine platforms," he added.
  • Scientists refute the implication that mRNA vaccines are unsafe. The technology that brought mRNA COVID vaccines in Trump's first term has been in development for decades. Large scientific trials and real-world data have shown that the vaccines are safe and effective — and capable of training the body's immune system to create antibodies to fight a host of afflictions.


  • HHS, when asked for the research on which Kennedy based this decision, sent Axios a link to a citation collection put together by anti-COVID vaccine advocates, including Steven Hatfill, who promoted the use of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine to treat the virus before vaccines were available despite reports of safety issues.

    Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/rfk-jrs-vaccine-pullback-stokes-fears-of-lost-medical-breakthroughs/ar-AA1KfC9L
    11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
    Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
    RFK Jr.'s vaccine pullback stokes fears of lost medical breakthroughs (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 10 OP
    At this rate, Bayard Aug 10 #1
    This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Aug 10 #2
    I want to say, how can one, so incredibly stupid man attain so much power... Baitball Blogger Aug 10 #3
    This is what happens when you put lunatics in charge. hadEnuf Aug 10 #4
    The technique has been used in the lab for a long time Warpy Aug 10 #5
    mRNA is not just for COVID bmichaelh Aug 10 #6
    He damn sure ain't Bobby and never call him that. rickyhall Aug 10 #8
    Trump's refusal to mask during Covid led directly to his chud... keep_left Aug 10 #9
    Luckily most of the Western World is still functioning. rickyhall Aug 10 #7
    The breakthroughs will still happen, but ... Bluetus Aug 10 #10
    We have an administration The Wizard Aug 10 #11

    Bayard

    (26,565 posts)
    1. At this rate,
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 12:12 PM
    Aug 10

    We're headed for another pandemic with no vaccine in sight. Due to one man's worm-addled-brain personal beliefs.

    Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

    Baitball Blogger

    (50,807 posts)
    3. I want to say, how can one, so incredibly stupid man attain so much power...
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 12:54 PM
    Aug 10

    ...but there are so many of them in this administration.

    hadEnuf

    (3,356 posts)
    4. This is what happens when you put lunatics in charge.
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 01:12 PM
    Aug 10

    And it's the way the Trump administration wants it. Mass confusion keeps the eyes off of them.

    Warpy

    (113,840 posts)
    5. The technique has been used in the lab for a long time
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 01:35 PM
    Aug 10

    as an efficient way to insert DNA into a living cell. It's not going to go away just because RFK JR is too stupid to know what it is or how it works or why it can streamline vaccine production, especially in a crisis situation. He's a moron and we all hope he's just a bad stink passing through.

    bmichaelh

    (906 posts)
    6. mRNA is not just for COVID
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 01:51 PM
    Aug 10

    mRNA could be used for HIV and cancer vaccines.

    Already, it shows promise for pancreatic cancer.

    For whatever reason, Trump has quacks with their MAHA ideology in charge of healthcare.

    Trump could have pursued a legacy of using mRNA vaccines to save lives; he did not.

    Hope that other countries are able to develop this promising technology.

    BTW, I will never call RFK Jr, just RFK; he has disgraced the name.

    Not only RFK Jr is responsible for this failure.

    All of the Republicans who voted for his confirmation are also responsible.

    Sen. Cassidy could have blocked his confirmation in the committee.

    keep_left

    (3,009 posts)
    9. Trump's refusal to mask during Covid led directly to his chud...
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 02:16 PM
    Aug 10

    ...followers' eventual refusal to get vaccinated. Trump made no real effort to change their minds. And then there were events like this one, where Trump was booed by his own MAGA chud audience for even suggesting they take the Covid vaccine.

    https://democraticunderground.com/100220539838#post25

    ?si=dEvli7USqx8yGQJj

    Bluetus

    (1,407 posts)
    10. The breakthroughs will still happen, but ...
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 02:39 PM
    Aug 10

    they will be owned and controlled by other countries, leaving the US even less competitive on the world stage.

    But there is another important point here. A central premise of Reaganomics is "Socialise the risks, privatize the profits". And nowhere has this been applied more than in the field of medical research.

    The American TAXPAYERS pay hundreds of billions of dollars to fund research, mostly at large universities. And then, when there are breakthroughs, somehow private corporations (and often the professors who were paid to conduct the research) end up with the patents and trade secrets that are worth many fortunes and the taxpayers get nothing in return.

    That must end. We want to "run the government like a business"? Well, then the taxpayers must be paid a fair return for our investment. Where is this in anybody's platform? This would make a GREAT campaign point. "When I am elected, we will end the ripping off of taxpayers by industry that walks off with the fruits of our investments. Those days are over. When the taxpayers pay for important research that produces breakthroughs, the taxpayers will be paid handsomely. No more freeloading by corporations that didn't make any investment."

    Populism is popular and there are populist messages with just about every major issue. Dems need to learn how to frame these messages in the strongest way possible.

    The Wizard

    (13,340 posts)
    11. We have an administration
    Sun Aug 10, 2025, 04:28 PM
    Aug 10

    filled with bigots, morons, radicals, reprobates who all had to pleasure The Siberian candidate to get their unwarranted positions.

    Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»RFK Jr.'s vaccine pullbac...