Judge denies DOJ bid to unseal Ghislaine Maxwell grand jury records
Last edited Mon Aug 11, 2025, 10:52 AM - Edit history (1)
Source: NBC
U.S. District Judge Paul A. Engelmayer said anyone who was following the Jeffrey Epstein case would "learn next to nothing new" by reading the grand jury materials.
A federal judge on Monday denied the Department of Justices request to unseal grand jury materials in Ghislaine Maxwells criminal case.
In his 31-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Paul A. Engelmayer, a Barack Obama appointee, says that the grand jury materials do not identify anyone other than Epstein or Maxwell as having had sexual contact with a minor......
Its entire premise that the Maxwell grand jury materials would bring to light meaningful new information about Epsteins and Maxwells crimes, or the Governments investigation into themis demonstrably false, he wrote.
Engelmayer said that the governments submissions failed to prove its claim that the grand jury materials contained undisclosed information of significant historical or public interest. He said that with only very minor exceptions, the evidence from the Maxwell grand juries is a matter of public record.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/judge-denies-doj-bid-unseal-ghislaine-maxwell-grand-jury-records-rcna224274
NY judge denies DOJ bid to unseal grand jury records in Ghislaine Maxwell case www.nydailynews.com/2025/08/11/n...
— Ray Beckerman (@raybeckerman.bsky.social) 2025-08-11T14:21:05.411Z

LetMyPeopleVote
(168,783 posts)ENGELMEYER says the Trump administrationâs claim that they wanted to release the Epstein grand jury records to shed new light on the case is âdemonstrably false.â storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney.bsky.social) 2025-08-11T13:40:33.908Z

Norrrm
(2,794 posts)
FalloutShelter
(13,726 posts)"We wanted to release all the testimony, but the Courts prevented it."
They are so ridiculously transparent, yet they get their way with the MSM.
Scrivener7
(56,889 posts)her to uphold her end of the deal, he'll keep them from coming out.
And it wouldn't do him any good to have a proven child rapist as his character reference.
PSPS
(14,844 posts)What's needed are the DOJ documents with the evidence, which aren't usually used or needed in a GJ session since the bar in a GJ is merely probable cause. And even this wouldn't involve what they have as evidence against epstein anyway. That was a different case.
truthisfreedom
(23,457 posts)Its something the admin knew would be refused. Thats why they chose it. Enough with the distractions, lets see the files.
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,783 posts)IbogaProject
(4,848 posts)I check https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/ some to keep up with the memes floating around and to get nuggets about current events that are circulating online but not published by mainstream media.
Here is a large list of items on this scandal I found in a reply to a tread about T47 blocking the release of material he is clearly listed all over.
Let us all not forget when talking about Trump and Epstein:
Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80
Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/
Trumps name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be The List Here is the story.
other Epstein Information
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf heres a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.
Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube:
Jeffrey Epsteins Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
other Trump information:
Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: ?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka
Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 I have a deal with her. Shes 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her, Trump said. So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.
Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/
Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too!
AND
Reminder:
Trump Confesses He Was Sexually Attracted to Ivanka When She Was 13 Years Old
https://www.politicalflare.com/2024/07/trump-confesses-he-was-sexually-attracted-to-ivanka-when-she-was-13-year-old/
Donald Trump called his own daughter a voluptuous piece of a** in yet more lewd comments threatening to derail his White House bid
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1940073/donald-trump-called-his-own-daughter-a-voluptuous-piece-of-a-in-yet-more-lewd-comments-threatening-to-derail-his-white-house-bid
Donald Trump Once Joked He and Ivanka Have Sex in Common
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/donald-trump-once-joked-he-ivanka-have-sex-common-941600/
Trumps lewd talk about daughter Ivanka in front of White House staff recalled in new book
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trumps-lewd-talk-about-daughter-ivanka-in-front-of-white-house-staff-recalled-in-new-book/
According to The New Republic, Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trumps breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter, Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.
"You remind me of my daughter": Stormy Daniels testifies that Trump compared her to Ivanka
https://www.salon.com/2024/05/07/you-remind-me-of-my-daughter-stormy-daniels-testifies-that-compared-her-to-ivanka/#:~:text=At%20one%20point%2C%20Daniels%20said,his%20underwear%20on%20the%20bed.
Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/11/donald-trump-comments-about-daughter-ivanka-feyerick-dnt-erin.cnn
Trump told Howard Stern its OK to call Ivanka a piece of a--'
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376
Trump: If Ivanka werent my daughter, perhaps Id be dating her
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html
Trump on Ivanka: She has the best body and I created her
https://forward.com/schmooze/357185/7-creepy-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-ivanka/
Trump: Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tamerragriffin/trump-asked-if-its-wrong-to-be-attracted-to-his-daughter#.muLN7d3M2
Trump Encouraged His Own Daughter Ivanka to Release a Sex Tape, and She Was Horrified
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/06/donald-trump-encouraged-his-eldest-daughter-to-release-a-sex-tape_partner/
Bonus:
Trump: commenting on his 1-year-old daughter Tiffanys breasts. He also says shes got Marlas legs.
Double Bonus:
For the better part of two decades starting in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump swam in the same social pool. They were neighbors in Florida. They jetted from LaGuardia to Palm Beach together. They partied at Trumps Mar-a-Lago Club and dined at Epsteins Manhattan mansion.
https://archive.md/XK0A7#selection-655.0-655.290
and...
MC2 (pronounced MC squared) was the modeling agency that Epstein, Brunel, and the mob would use to get trafficked girls into the US with genius visas
https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/former-model-agent-close-to-jeffrey-epstein-found-hanged-1235085929/
and...
Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives.
Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. She was approved in 2001, one of just five people from Slovenia to win the coveted visa that year, according to the Post.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43256318
republianmushroom
(21,150 posts)Thank you Judge Engelmayer.
groundloop
(13,226 posts)It's pointless even thinking about the government releasing anything related to tRump and Epstein, it'll have been scrubbed clean and "prove" tRump's innocence.
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,783 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 11, 2025, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)
The judge called the whole premise of the Trump administrations argument for unsealing demonstrably false.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/ghislaine-maxwell-grand-jury-transcript-judge-denied-unseal-rcna224275
Rather than exposing new information, Engelmayer wrote, unsealing would expose the disingenuousness behind the governments claim that unsealing would be revelatory.
A member of the public, appreciating that the Maxwell grand jury materials do not contribute anything to public knowledge, might conclude that the Governments motion for their unsealing was aimed not at transparency but at diversion aimed not at full disclosure but at the illusion of such, the judge wrote.
A member of the public familiar with the Maxwell trial record who reviewed the grand jury materials that the Government proposes to unseal would thus learn next to nothing new, he wrote, adding that the materials do not identify any person other than Epstein and Maxwell as having had sexual contact with a minor......
Maxwells appeal is pending before the Supreme Court, and we could learn in the fall whether the justices will take it up.
A federal judge in Florida previously rejected unsealing grand jury information related to Epstein. And still pending in New York is the governments motion to unseal grand jury information in his case there, which the government has been litigating in tandem with the Maxwell unsealing effort. The judge overseeing Epsteins New York case has not yet ruled, but given the apparently limited nature of the grand jury presentation in that case as well, he could rule in a similar fashion to Engelmayer.
LetMyPeopleVote
(168,783 posts)The comments by this judge made me smile
Experts stunned as judge 'unloads' on Trump DOJ over âdisingenuousâ legal move https://twp.ai/4ipIAL
— Tuck The Frumpers (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2025-08-11T18:18:12.000Z
https://www.rawstory.com/jeffrey-epstein-files/
Legal analysts were quick to point out the harshness of the judge's language.
"Judge UNLOADS on Trump DOJ Maxwell grand jury gambit," described Adam Klasfeld, who runs "All Rise News," a legal and political news publication.
He pointed out a key citation from the judge.
"The one colorable argument under that doctrine for unsealing in this case, in fact, is that doing so would expose as disingenuous the Governments public explanations for moving to unseal." It's "aimed not at 'transparency' but at diversion."