Russia Demands Role in Guaranteeing Ukraine's Postwar Security
Source: NY Times
Russias top diplomat on Wednesday said the country would insist on being a part of any future security guarantees for Ukraine, a condition that European and Ukrainian officials widely see as absurd.
It was the clearest sign yet that enormous gaps remain in the negotiations over a possible end to Russias invasion. And it added to the uncertainty over how a European effort to rally a coalition of the willing to protect a postwar Ukraine, possibly with Western soldiers stationed inside the country, would fit into President Trumps plans for a peace deal with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.
Seriously discussing issues of ensuring security without the Russian Federation is a utopia, a road to nowhere, Russias foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, told reporters in Moscow after a meeting with his Jordanian counterpart.
Kyivs supporters largely dismiss the idea that Russia could be a part of ensuring Ukraines future security, given that it launched its military intervention there in 2014 and its full-scale invasion in 2022. But Mr. Lavrov signaled that Mr. Putin had not budged from his insistence on having a decisive say over Ukraines future sovereignty as part of any peace deal.
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MacKasey
(1,422 posts)Biophilic
(6,017 posts)That is just a joke and obviously the Russians are not serious about Ukraine's sovereignty.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,104 posts)And how long before he demands a gold platter because the silver one wasn't good enough?
SheltieLover
(73,042 posts)
GB_RN
(3,410 posts)One, Russia was already part of security guarantees as part of the agreement for Ukraine ditching its nuclear arsenal. Two, at this point, making that demand would be like the fox demanding a role in henhouse security.
Why cant he and his puppet, Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent, just fuck off and die already?
ananda
(32,886 posts)Not.. gonna .. happen.
Botany
(75,127 posts)of the postwar security operations in Ukraine? The Russians raped tens of thousands of
Ukrainians and that included men, women, and children and in many cases the Russians
raped their victims in front of husbands, family members, and neighbors afterwards the
Russians shot the witnesses after they were done with their brutalities.
And now Putin wants a pass on these crimes and even having some of the Russian thugs
be part of some Ukrainian communities.
progree
(12,241 posts)Quanto Magnus
(1,237 posts)NO!
delisen
(7,126 posts)The authoritarian USSR menaced Europe for 50 year after the end of World War II.
Appeasing authoritarian killer Russian powermasters just doesnt work .
Lucky Luciano
(11,712 posts)sinkingfeeling
(56,211 posts)bluestarone
(20,140 posts)Russia and pooty can go to hell.
republianmushroom
(21,127 posts)myohmy2
(3,644 posts)...making a mockery out of trump and his efforts to throw Ukraine under the bus...
...if this wasn't happening for real at the highest governmental levels, I'd say it was all a joke...
...I've seen crappy movies with crappy scripts better than this...
...putin/trump...
...fascists...
Mopar151
(10,328 posts)Than make a fair buck. I used to work for one, a real demotivator.
BidenRocks
(2,064 posts)Now fuck off!
SomewhereInTheMiddle
(560 posts)They are the one everyone is trying to protect Ukraine from. It is a very important role. No one is worried about Malta invading Kiev. Without Russia's threat (and past performance) three would be no need for security guarantees.
So, they get what they want - an important role.
Ray Bruns
(5,519 posts)Can this get anymore ridiculous?