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BumRushDaShow

(158,767 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:00 PM Thursday

Taking ICE to the skies: Noem wants a whole fleet of DHS owned planes to fly deportees back to their home countries

Source: The Independent

Thursday 21 August 2025 15:09 BST


Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem wants planes that Immigration and Customs and Enforcement can use to fly immigrants to their home countries in order to help achieve the Trump administration’s deportation quota, according to a report.

The agency currently uses charter and commercial planes to transport immigrants from the United States. Noem is pushing to purchase planes for ICE to own and operate, sources told NBC News. DHS told The Independent it could not confirm this report.

Equipped with its own planes, ICE would potentially be able to deport twice as many people each month, former officials told the outlet.

Historically, ICE has chartered eight to 14 planes at a time for deportation flights, which amounted to flying roughly 15,000 deportees per month from the U.S., Jason Houser, ICE’s chief of staff from 2022 to 2023, told the outlet.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/noem-dhs-ice-planes-deportations-b2811754.html

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Diamond_Dog

(38,169 posts)
1. No money for school lunches, cancer research, English lessons, or weather reports
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:08 PM
Thursday

But ICE Barbie wants a special fleet of planes all for deportations.

Will she dress up as a pilot and pretend to fly the plane?

Ocelot II

(126,737 posts)
2. Where are they going to get them? New airplanes of any size have to be ordered years in advance.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:08 PM
Thursday

There are a lot of used ones belonging to airlines in storage at Marana, AZ, but most of those haven't been flown in years and some don't have engines. It would take months and months and a lot of money to make them usable. Maybe the Air Force has some ancient C-130s or even DC-3s but who cares if they are actually safe? ICE Barbie can't just snap her expensively-manicured fingers and have dozens of airplanes delivered. Also, it's stupid to buy airplanes outright when they can be leased or chartered because if you own them you're responsible for all the maintenance, upkeep and storage even when you're not using them.

James48

(4,900 posts)
5. You are not keeping up.
Fri Aug 22, 2025, 03:31 AM
Friday

Spirit airlines owns a fleet of Airbus A-320’s and is about to go belly up.

In walks an operator for the entire fleet (DHS) , stockholders get paid off, and Noam has her fleet of planes.

The U.S. government turned down their request to merge with Jet Blue. That basically set them up for limited options. Today, Spirit has 141 aircraft, including 35 older aircraft parked, and 30 newer aircraft less than 2 years old in the mix. They could pump out 40 or 50 airplanes to DHS, and still fly most of their present routes.

Lonestarblue

(12,906 posts)
6. Once acquired, these planes will be used for the personal travel of all the Trump administration--at our expense.
Fri Aug 22, 2025, 04:48 AM
Friday

Ocelot II

(126,737 posts)
10. I haven't been following the Spirit situation; I know they've been in trouble for awhile.
Fri Aug 22, 2025, 08:55 AM
Friday

That could be a source, though I'm not sure the A320 is the best airplane for DHS' purposes unless they gut the interiors to make them as uncomfortable as possible for the deportees.

Karasu

(1,886 posts)
3. Oh, please...and since when have most of them been returned to their home countries, anyhow? Most of them are being
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:09 PM
Thursday

imprisoned in fucking El Salvador or in active warzones in Sudan, Rwanda, or any number of random-ass "shithole countries" (to use Trump's own words) they have no ties to whatsoever.

This regime hasn't explained that shit at ALL, and yet they keep saying they're sending people "home" or "back where they came." It's such a steaming crock of shit.

This country has become the real shithole.

Bengus81

(9,209 posts)
9. She wants those on top of the 1,000 slave camps that are to be built?
Fri Aug 22, 2025, 07:46 AM
Friday

But remember, no money for Medicaid and Medicare,no money for SNAP, PBS had to go etc,etc....

sinkingfeeling

(56,210 posts)
11. I think they're all racing to totally bankrupt the country.
Fri Aug 22, 2025, 09:12 AM
Friday

Spending money like crazy, diverting already allocated funds to their special projects, eliminating a third of the workforce by deportation and stopping visas, and destroying the White House, to name a few steps in that direction.

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