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BumRushDaShow

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:36 PM Wednesday

Gunman in Charlie Kirk killing still at large after FBI says first suspect released from custody

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Source: CNBC

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 40 Min Ago


A manhunt was underway late Wednesday for the killer of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated earlier in the day by a gunman, while speaking to a crowd of several thousand people at Utah Valley University in Orem.

An initial suspect was released from custody after being interrogated by law enforcement officers, said FBI Director Kash Patel. “The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency,” Patel wrote on X.

Before the initial suspect’s release, Patel had taken the unusual step of announcing on social media that the “subject” in Kirk’s killing had been taken into custody. Typically, updates to high-profile investigations are delivered by local authorities or regional FBI agents at press conferences — not by the director and not on social media.

“The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody,” Patel had written. “Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi. We will provide updates when able.” Patel did not identify the suspect.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-uvu-shooting-utah.html



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The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency
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The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody. Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi.
We will provide updates when able.
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The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody. Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi.
We will provide updates when able.
6:21 PM · Sep 10, 2025


Article updated.

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Initial suspect in Charlie Kirk killing released from custody after interrogation, FBI Director Patel says

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 3 Min Ago


An initial suspect in the killing of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk in Utah was released from custody Wednesday after being interrogated by law enforcement officers, FBI Director Kash Patel said.

"The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency," Patel wrote on X.

Patel's announcement came hours after Kirk, 31, was assassinated by a gunman while speaking to a crowd of several thousand people at Utah Valley University in Orem.

Before the initial suspect's release, Patel had taken the unusual step of announcing on social media that the "subject" in Kirk's killing had been taken into custody. Typically, updates to high-profile investigations are delivered by local authorities or regional FBI agents at press conferences -- not by the director and not on social media.



Suspect in Charlie Kirk killing in custody, FBI director Patel says

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 7 Min Ago


A suspect in the killing of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk in Utah is in custody, FBI Director Kash Patel said on Wednesday evening.

Patel's announcement came hours after Kirk, 31, died after being shot while speaking to a crowd of several thousand people at Utah Valley University in Orem, where he had just been asked about mass shootings.

"The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody," Patel wrote in a tweet. ″'Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi. We will provide updates when able." Patel did not identify the suspect.

A gunman fired at Kirk from a campus building 200 yards away just after noon local time, hitting him once in the neck, the university said.


Original article -

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 4 Min Ago


The suspect in the killing of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk in Utah is in custody, FBI Director Kash Patel said on Wednesday evening.

Patel's announcement came hours after Kirk died after being shot while speaking to a large crowd at Utah Valley University in Orem.

"The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody," Patel wrote in a tweet. ″'Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi. We will provide updates when able."

The unknown gunman fired at the 31-year-old Kirk from a campus building 200 yards away just after noon local time, hitting him once in the neck, the university said.
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Gunman in Charlie Kirk killing still at large after FBI says first suspect released from custody (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Wednesday OP
The usual suspects or not? BigmanPigman Wednesday #1
I'm wondering that myself Vogon_Glory Wednesday #4
FYI - This isn't funny, and, is actually pretty hateful, even if it wasn't intended that way. Oneironaut Wednesday #31
Patel screwed up as usual. drray23 Wednesday #2
On one of the Reddit threads, they've already doxxed him. OnlinePoker Wednesday #6
Another Richard Jewell situation? Justice Brandeis Wednesday #8
If it's the first man arrested TommyT139 Wednesday #14
Wait. How can they doxx a suspect in custody? No name's been released. ancianita Wednesday #18
It might be the second person Renew Deal Wednesday #43
I was wondering if this was a different person BumRushDaShow Wednesday #7
That was the older guy right? Bengus81 Wednesday #34
With all that has been going on (and updating a billion OPs) BumRushDaShow Wednesday #36
Absolutely...shot him from 600 feet away. No way it was the guy the police had down early on. Bengus81 Wednesday #37
Do the local police know? markodochartaigh Wednesday #3
The shooter is probably already dead if the person wasn't a DOJ or DOD employee. LiberalArkie Wednesday #5
If it was a set up, which markodochartaigh Wednesday #12
A transgendered person? LiberalArkie Wednesday #27
I wish we really knew Dyedinthewoolliberal Wednesday #29
They could get whoever they wanted. markodochartaigh Wednesday #39
I really hope the shooter is not trans, out of fear of a crackdown or violence against trans people. Oneironaut Wednesday #33
Governor Cox (probably more reliable than Patel): 'person of interest' in custody, no information for a 2nd person muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #9
So, not DJT, looking for an excellent distraction from Epstein and excuse to strip gun rights from Democrats? AZJonnie Wednesday #15
He didn't call him a suspect, he called him a subject? bucolic_frolic Wednesday #10
I noticed that also. Strange wording. Katinfl Wednesday #22
For a whole host of reasons, I will be shocked if the actual shooter is taken in alive AZJonnie Wednesday #11
I just really hope the killer is not transgender Justice Brandeis Wednesday #17
I think it's pretty likely the person has trained with a sniper rifle, possibly military AZJonnie Wednesday #24
So I'm assuming durablend Wednesday #13
...or the shooter planned more thoroughly than someone who was mentally ill or violently aggrieved. LudwigPastorius Wednesday #45
KashYAP, as usual Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #16
'When do we get to start using the guns?' questioner at TPUSA event asks Charlie Kirk. Hotler Wednesday #19
That's a great example of Kirk pushing conspiratorial, anti-government, false propoganda about the country Renew Deal Wednesday #44
Why the suspect is not identified. James48 Wednesday #20
Simpler answer to your questions is that Patel is so clueless he is not in communication w FBI agent on the scene. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #23
never ascribe to malice what can be attributed to stupidity DBoon Wednesday #28
Could it be someone(a maga) that is pissed that johnnyfins Wednesday #26
The shooter probably thought Charlie wasn't loyal enough to MAGA, Q-anon or whatever crazy shit they've come up with.. Crowman2009 Wednesday #42
If amazes me how that we can't leave our homes and run errands... C Moon Wednesday #21
Gosh, you have figured out how it was done! They just "walked in" with the gun Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #25
You can see the shooter in this video Mosby Wednesday #30
Patel is just plain old STUPID ashredux Wednesday #32
Jeanine Pirro will straighten this out. Hassin Bin Sober Wednesday #40
Please update your headline, like you did with your "Kirk shot" headline. He was RELEASED. SunSeeker Wednesday #35
I believe he was a "person of interest". twodogsbarking Wednesday #38
Their concentration on this individual gave the perpetrator more time to get away. hamsterjill Wednesday #41
Sounds like a Butler Pa. all over again Historic NY Wednesday #46
How much did Patel comment when AdamGG Wednesday #47
Bolt action rifle used PCB66 Thursday #48

Vogon_Glory

(10,029 posts)
4. I'm wondering that myself
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:43 PM
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Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:47 PM - Edit history (2)

Did the cops round up any tall person with big hands and feet and dressed like a woman, regardless of biological gender?

EDIT: in these times we live in, I can well imagine the authorities targeting transgenders as likely suspects in Kirk’s assassination, regardless of actual guilt or innocence.

Oneironaut

(6,113 posts)
31. FYI - This isn't funny, and, is actually pretty hateful, even if it wasn't intended that way.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:17 PM
Wednesday

Trans people are not violent or prone to shootings. We are not "the usual suspects." We just want to be left alone and not referred to as slurs.

drray23

(8,411 posts)
2. Patel screwed up as usual.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:42 PM
Wednesday

As per a few minutes ago in a live conference the fbi agent in charge on the ground said the shooter is at large. They do have a person in custody that they arrested for obstruction but it is not the shooter.

OnlinePoker

(6,018 posts)
6. On one of the Reddit threads, they've already doxxed him.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:49 PM
Wednesday

His life is going to be hell going forward.

TommyT139

(1,843 posts)
14. If it's the first man arrested
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:58 PM
Wednesday

...he is being held for obstruction of police activity or something, and was named in the press conf.

BumRushDaShow

(159,833 posts)
7. I was wondering if this was a different person
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:50 PM
Wednesday

because the first one taken into custody WAS announced as not being the shooter.

BumRushDaShow

(159,833 posts)
36. With all that has been going on (and updating a billion OPs)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:41 PM
Wednesday

I hadn't seen the pic of the original guy they ended up releasing.

Whoever did this was an expert.

Bengus81

(9,331 posts)
37. Absolutely...shot him from 600 feet away. No way it was the guy the police had down early on.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:46 PM
Wednesday

markodochartaigh

(3,914 posts)
3. Do the local police know?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:43 PM
Wednesday

This is how screwed this country is: There are three possibilities.

A) Patel just really has no clue that the old guy first arrested has already been cleared.

B) There is someone in custody because the whole thing was a false flag and they have a patsy.

C) The FBI actually apprehended the suspect but haven't even informed local police.

All of these possibilities should be able to be dismissed instantly in a well-functioning country.

LiberalArkie

(18,916 posts)
5. The shooter is probably already dead if the person wasn't a DOJ or DOD employee.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:49 PM
Wednesday

But I feel they will find that the dead shooter is trans sexual as that was what he was bitching about

markodochartaigh

(3,914 posts)
12. If it was a set up, which
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:56 PM
Wednesday

I doubt, I think that the actual shooter would have been spirited away. I don't have any problem imagining a military sniper willing to shoot someone on their own side as part of a false flag operation, but I doubt that they would do it if they knew that they would be killed. Especially considering how much more effective it would be to have a left wing patsy. The patsy could be cornered in a mountain cabin and a shootout would remove any possibility of an awkward Oswald "I'm a patsy" moment.

LiberalArkie

(18,916 posts)
27. A transgendered person?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:47 PM
Wednesday

Question from the audience: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
Charlie Kirk: “Too many.”

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,156 posts)
29. I wish we really knew
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:58 PM
Wednesday

but I suspect not many. Already people in my family who are conservative are saying things like 'there are too many shooting by trans people'

markodochartaigh

(3,914 posts)
39. They could get whoever they wanted.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:36 PM
Wednesday

Whatever demographic. I doubt that this what actually happened. Not because the reich-wing has any scruples at all, but because it doesn't seem necessary. Anything and/or everything can be used by them for whatever they want to do. Add to this their laziness and incompetence and it just seems unlikely that they would spin some extremely complicated plot to get a rationalization for what they are doing anyway.

Oneironaut

(6,113 posts)
33. I really hope the shooter is not trans, out of fear of a crackdown or violence against trans people.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:37 PM
Wednesday

Trans people are not violent or shooters. We just want to be left alone and exist like everyone else.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,632 posts)
9. Governor Cox (probably more reliable than Patel): 'person of interest' in custody, no information for a 2nd person
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:52 PM
Wednesday
Officials believe that there was only one “person involved” in the shooting death of Charlie Kirk on a Utah college campus earlier today, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said.

“At this point, there is no information that would lead us to believe that there is a second person involved,” Cox said at a press conference Wednesday.

Still, investigators are “actively looking” for people who may have more information about the shooting, Cox said.

The governor said authorities have “a person of interest in custody that is being interviewed right now.”

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-09-10-25#cmfek34vp001e3b6okuqed4hh

AZJonnie

(1,423 posts)
15. So, not DJT, looking for an excellent distraction from Epstein and excuse to strip gun rights from Democrats?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:05 PM
Wednesday

And not because DJT Jr. saw Kirk as a threat to his own political ambitions some day?

In other words, not the sort of 'false flag' that the likes of Alex Jones would be yammering about if a Democrat were POTUS?

Good to know, Governor!

bucolic_frolic

(52,318 posts)
10. He didn't call him a suspect, he called him a subject?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:54 PM
Wednesday

His lawyers will ponder that characterization.

AZJonnie

(1,423 posts)
11. For a whole host of reasons, I will be shocked if the actual shooter is taken in alive
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:55 PM
Wednesday

In fact I expect some BS about how they cannot divulge their identity because of "national security". That's because Trump will get more mileage from the story by not telling anyone who it was. Focus on this, people, not Epstein!

Come to think of it, the whole thing is pretty convenient in a lot ways for him. Just sayin

AZJonnie

(1,423 posts)
24. I think it's pretty likely the person has trained with a sniper rifle, possibly military
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:24 PM
Wednesday

And I would imagine the number of trained snipers who are transgender is very, very small. But yeah, that WOULD be very, very bad. Same if they're an immigrant, esp. one not here legally.

If there can be said to be an optimal situation, in terms of the political fallout, the person is white, decorated military, and lost a loved one in a mass shooting who has animosity towards Kirk specifically over his callous talk about random gun violence.

However if that were the real situation, I very much doubt the public would ever be told thusly. Not by this DoJ/FBI, nor this M$M.

durablend

(8,489 posts)
13. So I'm assuming
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:58 PM
Wednesday

a) They haven't dug in far enough to figure out which side he's on
OR
b) they know which side he's on and need to get on the same page with the excuse/coverup

LudwigPastorius

(13,364 posts)
45. ...or the shooter planned more thoroughly than someone who was mentally ill or violently aggrieved.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:36 PM
Wednesday

The fact that there hasn't been a capture makes me think this person disabled/circumvented security cameras, planned an escape, picked up his brass, and left no other physical evidence.

Jilly_in_VA

(12,985 posts)
16. KashYAP, as usual
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:07 PM
Wednesday

is clueless. He'd better leave it to state and local officials to sort things out> He's already made a hash of the FBI.

Hotler

(13,421 posts)
19. 'When do we get to start using the guns?' questioner at TPUSA event asks Charlie Kirk.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:13 PM
Wednesday

From one of Kirk's rally's about three years ago. His supports wanting to open fire on Dems & Libs.

Renew Deal

(84,458 posts)
44. That's a great example of Kirk pushing conspiratorial, anti-government, false propoganda about the country
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:35 PM
Wednesday

James48

(4,932 posts)
20. Why the suspect is not identified.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:16 PM
Wednesday

My money is on it being a Right-winger with some bizarre motive. Maybe a personal issue- or jilted husband of a lover. Something really weird and unexpected like that.

If it was a lefty, Patel would have said so.

I think Patel is hiding the shooter’s identity because didn’t suit their cause.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,221 posts)
23. Simpler answer to your questions is that Patel is so clueless he is not in communication w FBI agent on the scene. . .nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:24 PM
Wednesday

johnnyfins

(2,836 posts)
26. Could it be someone(a maga) that is pissed that
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:29 PM
Wednesday

Kirk decided to "move on" from the Epstein issue?

Crowman2009

(3,252 posts)
42. The shooter probably thought Charlie wasn't loyal enough to MAGA, Q-anon or whatever crazy shit they've come up with..
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:20 PM
Wednesday

...nowadays. Not to mention that Utah is a deep red open carry w/o a permit state.

C Moon

(13,165 posts)
21. If amazes me how that we can't leave our homes and run errands...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:16 PM
Wednesday

without being on several cameras, but at a university someone can walk in w a high powered scoped rifle without being noticed.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,221 posts)
25. Gosh, you have figured out how it was done! They just "walked in" with the gun
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:26 PM
Wednesday

Nobody ever walked onto a campus with a guitar case, violin case, ski bag, hockey equipment bag, construction equipment, a box of tools, a case of lab equipment, ....

Nobody ever moved their belongings into a dorm on a campus in early September.

SunSeeker

(56,620 posts)
35. Please update your headline, like you did with your "Kirk shot" headline. He was RELEASED.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:40 PM
Wednesday

Kash Patel's Keystone Cops have now wrongly arrested TWO individuals and doxxed them before releasing them after realizing they weren't involved.

hamsterjill

(16,522 posts)
41. Their concentration on this individual gave the perpetrator more time to get away.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:05 PM
Wednesday

Just sayin'...

AdamGG

(1,756 posts)
47. How much did Patel comment when
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:56 PM
Wednesday

The two Minnesota state reps were shot and one killed a few months ago? If they arrest a suspect for this shooting, will there be the same level of comments by federal officials and the president as there was for those two elected representatives and three other people? Those were actual elected officials and this is a pundit.

PCB66

(44 posts)
48. Bolt action rifle used
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:49 AM
Thursday

The report this morning is that a bolt action rifle was used. I don't know how reliable Crowder is but if the report is accurate and it was another transgender shooting this is not good. The MAGAs will use it to foster more hate.

ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.



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