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muriel_volestrangler

(104,861 posts) Mon Sep 22, 2025, 04:42 PM Sep 22

ICC charges Rodrigo Duterte with crimes against humanity

Source: BBC

Former Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte has been charged with crimes against humanity by the International Criminal Court (ICC).

The 80-year-old is accused of being criminally responsible for dozens of murders that allegedly took place as part of his so-called war on drugs, during which thousands of small-time drug dealers, users and others were killed without trial.

The ICC's charge sheet, which includes several redactions, dates from July but was only made public on Monday.

ICC deputy prosecutor Mame Mandiaye Niang said Duterte was an "indirect co-perpetrator" in the killings, which the court alleges were carried out by others, including police.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5e1v85lrdo

Trump is, of course, criminally responsible for murders that allegedly take place as part of his so-called war on drugs, during which alleged drug smugglers are being killed without trial. He hasn't reached Duterte's count yet, but he wants us to think he's only just getting started.

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ICC charges Rodrigo Duterte with crimes against humanity (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Sep 22 OP

His body count... EuterpeThelo Sep 22 #1

Thanks. Indeed, trump is criminally responsible as an "indirect co-perpetrator" in the murders without due process. ancianita Sep 22 #2

Yea! Now do ours. Buddyzbuddy Sep 22 #3

You know who would immediately reenter the US into the Rome Statute? SSJVegeta Tuesday #4

EuterpeThelo

(72 posts)

1. His body count...

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Mon Sep 22, 2025, 05:45 PM

Sep 22

from deliberately mishandling the COVID-19 pandemic is much, much higher than Duterte's. Ask me how I know. The love of my life of 20+ years, my best friend, soulmate and partner in crime died on June 4, 2020 and I have never been the same since. My adult daughter and my rescue cats are the only reason I'm still even here, TBH.

ancianita

(42,023 posts)

2. Thanks. Indeed, trump is criminally responsible as an "indirect co-perpetrator" in the murders without due process.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Mon Sep 22, 2025, 05:49 PM

Sep 22

Even if trump did reach Duterte's count and thinks he's only just getting started, it's very likely he'll surpass Duterte because the United States has never been a signatory to the I.C.C., and doesn't recognize the court's jurisdiction. Neither do China, India and Russia.

The Court lacks universal territorial jurisdiction and may only investigate and prosecute crimes committed within member states, crimes committed by nationals of member states, or crimes in situations referred to the Court by the United Nations Security Council. The reason the ICC issued an international warrant against Putin is for the last reason -- that the UN's Security Council referred his crimes to the Court and so its prosecutor(s) filed.

... Established in 2002 under the multilateral Rome Statute, the ICC is the first and only permanent international court with jurisdiction to prosecute individuals for the international crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression.

The ICC is intended to complement, not replace, national judicial systems; it can exercise its jurisdiction only when national courts are unwilling or unable to prosecute criminals...
Putin became the first head of state of a U.N. Security Council Permanent Member to be the subject of an ICC arrest warrant....[42]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

That last sentence is where we're probably at. Seems like the only way the court would take trump on is if the UN Security Council referred him to the ICC as it did Putin.

trump's willing to take the gamble on just getting started. It's likely, imo, that he'll die before he faces earthly justice of any kind.

Because it's unlikely, one can only hope he does.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,578 posts)

3. Yea! Now do ours.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Mon Sep 22, 2025, 07:18 PM

Sep 22

Lock him up, lock him up, lock him up!

SSJVegeta

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4. You know who would immediately reenter the US into the Rome Statute?

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 01:30 AM

Tuesday

Literally anybody who isnt bought by billionaires. (Talarico, AOC...)

Not just Trump is vulnerable to iCC prosecution and imprisonment(he likely wont survive long enough). ICE Agents and cabinet members will likely have a cold cell to look forward to when it is all said and done.

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