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BumRushDaShow

(160,555 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 07:30 AM Yesterday

'We've regressed so horribly': Autism groups respond to Trump administration's Tylenol claims

Source: USA Today

Sept. 22, 2025, 7:53 p.m. ET


The Trump administration announced on Monday, Sept. 22, that it had found the "answer to autism" - a claim experts, advocacy groups and the autism community are calling dangerous and regressive.

Trump announced plans to reveal the supposed cause of autism spectrum disorder during a Sept. 21 memorial rally for conservative activist Charlie Kirk, telling memorial-goers, "I think you’re going to find it to be amazing."

In a press conference, Trump, alongside Health and Human Services Secretary (HHS) RFK Jr. and other officials, claimed that Tylenol use during pregnancy could contribute to the development of autism in children, a contrast to current medical guidelines that say acetaminophen, the generic form of Tylenol, is safe to use.

The Trump administration has made repeated claims about its plans to find the "cause" for autism, despite decades of medical and scientific consensus indicating that there is no singular source, including medication, that can be attributed to the condition, and that it is likely the result of multiple contributing factors like genetics. Kennedy has argued, without evidence, that the country has a "preventable" "autism epidemic" fueled by "environmental toxins."

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2025/09/22/autism-groups-community-respond-trump-rfk-autism-tylenol/86291656007/



Kennedy has argued, without evidence, that the country has a "preventable" "autism epidemic" fueled by "environmental toxins."


Yet his "boss" is essentially dismantling the very agency that regulates "environmental toxins" and who has illegally rescinded funding that was set aside to study and attempt to clean up those "environmental toxins".

If anything, this whole administration is filled with "environmental toxins" posing as people.
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'We've regressed so horribly': Autism groups respond to Trump administration's Tylenol claims (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
Wait, I thought vaccines caused autism. johnnyfins Yesterday #1
Being antifa and watching Kimmel causes autism Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #3
Like with the Epstein horror & need to focus on victims, let's be sure to give the Autism community hlthe2b Yesterday #2
Just stop testing for autism. Then there won't be any. twodogsbarking Yesterday #4
Trump Did say that about Covid testing!! riversedge Yesterday #7
I better stock up on Tylenol before they ban it. Meadowoak Yesterday #12
I have some. Meet me in the alley at midnight. Come alone. twodogsbarking Yesterday #14
Ignore the poster above. Mine comes straight from the Trump Cartel. Wonder Why Yesterday #24
I've Got You All RobinA Yesterday #25
The MAGA morons are always so confused about improvements to diagnostic tools travelingthrulife Yesterday #16
You are just confusing them more with truth. twodogsbarking Yesterday #17
Additionally, a change in the definition karynnj Yesterday #22
'We've regressed so horribly' I'm ordering a shirt with that on it. twodogsbarking Yesterday #5
"If anything, this whole administration is filled with "environmental toxins" posing as people." riversedge Yesterday #6
There's actually some solid data supporting the Tylenol link TheRickles Yesterday #8
The problem with that as many physcians have noted BumRushDaShow Yesterday #9
Exactly! Correlation is NOT causation. wcollar Yesterday #10
Refuted. JAMA study from 2024 on Acetaminophen Use During Pregnancy and Children's Risk Ellipsis Yesterday #13
Excellent - thank you. TheRickles Yesterday #15
There is also a correlation between having a fever and taking Tylenol karynnj Yesterday #23
No, there is not -- you need to stop posting medical misinformation obamanut2012 Yesterday #26
So NSAIDS are the sacrificial lamb to allow for deregulation and more pollution. bucolic_frolic Yesterday #11
Double plus good that it will force women to endure more pain! travelingthrulife Yesterday #18
You get at it, rfkjr, telling those billionaires to clean up the toxic messes they leave all over the earth. Clouds Passing Yesterday #19
Bobby Jr. is an "environmental toxin." area51 Yesterday #20
This is all so RFK Jr and Dr. Oz and their wellness industry bullshit buddies can get rich. Initech Yesterday #21

johnnyfins

(2,944 posts)
1. Wait, I thought vaccines caused autism.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 07:39 AM
Yesterday

According to RFK jr. Now it's tylenol? What's next? Witchcraft? Being non-christian?

hlthe2b

(111,423 posts)
2. Like with the Epstein horror & need to focus on victims, let's be sure to give the Autism community
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 07:51 AM
Yesterday

their say:
From the article:

The Trump administration announced on Monday, Sept. 22, that it had found the "answer to autism" - a claim experts, advocacy groups and the autism community are calling dangerous and regressive.
--snip--
The oversimplification of a complex developmental difference that exists on a spectrum of many different abilities and experiences is dehumanizing at best and dangerous at its worst, autism experts, advocacy groups and members of the community told USA TODAY.

"The claim that Tylenol causes autism has been shown to be false by actual scientific research ... Autism is a very complex neurodevelopmental condition," said Dr. Sara Rodrigues, Executive Director of Balanced Learning Center, a nonprofit providing services, coaching, advocacy and therapy for autistic and neurodivergent people. "Genetics are known to play a very large role and environmental factors are believed to interact with genetic predispositions. Omitting that complexity misleads policy, funding, and medical care."

"The announcement is an incorrect reading of data," said Noor Pervez, Community Engagement Manager at the Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN). "The way that RFK Jr. speaks about autism is actively dehumanizing, and it promotes stigma against autistic people."


RobinA

(10,424 posts)
25. I've Got You All
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:21 PM
Yesterday

beat. I have genuine, in the original easy-open bottle, pre-cyanide Tylenol. The bottle I carried in my purse when that scandal hit. The one I looked at to check after word got out that cyanide in a capsule would deteriorate pretty fast and make contamination obvious. I only take sealed bids.

travelingthrulife

(3,321 posts)
16. The MAGA morons are always so confused about improvements to diagnostic tools
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 10:13 AM
Yesterday

that allow more cases to be identified.

riversedge

(77,903 posts)
6. "If anything, this whole administration is filled with "environmental toxins" posing as people."
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 07:58 AM
Yesterday

Spot on!!

TheRickles

(2,958 posts)
8. There's actually some solid data supporting the Tylenol link
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 08:08 AM
Yesterday

This is from a top psychiatry journal: JAMA Psychiatry: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31664451/

Conclusions and relevance: Cord biomarkers of fetal exposure to acetaminophen were associated with significantly increased risk of childhood ADHD and ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) in a dose-response fashion. Our findings support previous studies regarding the association between prenatal and perinatal acetaminophen exposure and childhood neurodevelopmental risk and warrant additional investigations.

BumRushDaShow

(160,555 posts)
9. The problem with that as many physcians have noted
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 08:27 AM
Yesterday

is the cause/effect "assumptions" that ignore what might be underlying issues that are triggering someone to take one of the NSAID to resolve.

I.e., there may be other medical conditions and/or complications in play that are causing symptoms like headache, fatigue, inflammation, swelling, etc., that might be indicative of or a cause of stressors to the fetus, regardless of whether the mother is being medicated with NSAIDs to temporarily relieve the discomfort, or not.

If there was such a link, then you'd probably have 90% of the population diagnosed with some neurological condition like ADHD or ASD.

wcollar

(210 posts)
10. Exactly! Correlation is NOT causation.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:09 AM
Yesterday

From the article; “ Our findings support previous studies regarding the association between prenatal and perinatal acetaminophen exposure and childhood neurodevelopmental risk and warrant additional investigations.”

Key word association.
A classic example is that there is a strong correlation between ice cream consumption and shark attacks. No one claims eating ice cream triggers shark attacks. Instead, we know that in the summer we eat more ice cream and swim on the ocean.

Ellipsis

(9,372 posts)
13. Refuted. JAMA study from 2024 on Acetaminophen Use During Pregnancy and Children's Risk
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:51 AM
Yesterday

Conclusions and Relevance Acetaminophen use during pregnancy was not associated with children’s risk of autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability in sibling control analysis. This suggests that associations observed in other models may have been attributable to familial confounding.

Design, Setting, and Participants This nationwide cohort study with sibling control analysis included a population-based sample of 2,480,797 children born in 1995 to 2019 in Sweden, with follow-up through December 31, 2021.


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406

karynnj

(60,557 posts)
23. There is also a correlation between having a fever and taking Tylenol
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 12:34 PM
Yesterday

Correlation is not causation, especially if it is easy to speculate that there might be a higher correlation between a mother having a high fever and problems.

bucolic_frolic

(52,455 posts)
11. So NSAIDS are the sacrificial lamb to allow for deregulation and more pollution.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 09:11 AM
Yesterday

Look! We've found the culprit!!! It wasn't pollution, smoke, mercury, chemicals, bio-engineering ... it was Tylenol!! Presto! Problem solved!

And there sure was suspicion that mercury was a cause about 20 years ago. Don't know where that research pursuit went.

travelingthrulife

(3,321 posts)
18. Double plus good that it will force women to endure more pain!
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 10:22 AM
Yesterday

I am wondering how much the constant assault of media (lights, noise, etc) as you are developing affects a kid. It's one of many exposures we never had prior to 20th century.

Clouds Passing

(5,853 posts)
19. You get at it, rfkjr, telling those billionaires to clean up the toxic messes they leave all over the earth.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 10:24 AM
Yesterday

Initech

(106,374 posts)
21. This is all so RFK Jr and Dr. Oz and their wellness industry bullshit buddies can get rich.
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 12:08 PM
Yesterday

Fuck the wellness industry. The worst thing Oprah ever did was give that bullshit a platform. And now we're stuck with these assholes in charge of public health.

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