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mahatmakanejeeves

(66,857 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:46 AM Saturday

National Weather Service at 'breaking point' as storm approaches

Last edited Sat Sep 27, 2025, 05:19 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Washington Post

National Weather Service at 'breaking point' as storm approaches

The agency is struggling to maintain its weather forecasting operations due to significant staffing cuts under the Trump administration.

By Hannah Natanson and Brady Dennis
1 hour ago


A weather forecaster works at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Hurricane Center in Miami in May. (Chandan Khanna/AFP/Getty Images)

By Hannah Natanson and Brady Dennis

Some National Weather Service staffers are working double shifts to keep forecasting offices open. Others are operating under a "buddy system," in which adjacent offices help monitor severe weather in understaffed regions. Still others are jettisoning services deemed not absolutely necessary, such as making presentations to schoolchildren.

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By Hannah Natanson
Hannah Natanson is a Washington Post reporter covering Trump's reshaping of the government and its effects. Reach her securely on Signal at 202-580-5477.follow on Xhannah_natanson
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By Brady Dennis
Brady Dennis is a Pulitzer Prize-winning national reporter for The Washington Post, focusing on environmental and climate stories, primarily around the Southeast. He previously has covered the Environmental Protection Agency, international climate policy, the Food and Drug Administration and the nation's economy. follow on X@brady_dennis
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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/09/27/national-weather-service-staffing-crisis/



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I don't have a subscription to the WaPo, and I'm on a phone. I can add a little bit of material later, but not right now.
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National Weather Service at 'breaking point' as storm approaches (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Saturday OP
Rich Republicans don't care Champp Saturday #1
Future Imelda is on track for a direct hit on a red state Catbird Saturday #2
Watching from Georgia SouthernDem4ever Saturday #5
This is right around the same calendar date that Hurricane Hugo hit in 1989. Prof. Toru Tanaka Sunday #30
They've already gone downhill ...... groundloop Saturday #3
Yeah, didn't Musk and Krasnov ground the Ilsa Saturday #24
I'm surprised Jeff Bozos is allowing this article mdbl Saturday #4
MF#$% grounded all the hurricane hunter planes. lark Saturday #6
What storm? What fantastical magic are you using? Buddyzbuddy Saturday #7
Hurricanes can not be real... Prove it from the bible.. The bible says nothing about hurricanes. LiberalArkie Saturday #9
archive and excerpts (A&E's) progree Saturday #8
Thanks for the archived link FakeNoose Saturday #10
YW 😊 progree Saturday #14
WaPo paywall is challenging. mahatmakanejeeves Saturday #17
I remember about 20 years ago accessing NY Times and such by using my library card progree Saturday #19
I did not realize that RussBLib Saturday #23
Oh, I'd guess that a majority of DU people have gone ahead and registered with the WaPo, since I see a lot progree Saturday #25
Well, try this one to the NYT RussBLib Saturday #26
I can read the article just fine -- I get a panel covering the bottom 1/4 of the page , saying, progree Sunday #28
I guess all those kids and camp personnel in Texas just drowned for nothing on July 4. Paladin Saturday #11
I've followed NOAA & the National Hurricane Center for yrs & can't see any difference in the quality of reporting so far ancianita Saturday #12
I have noticed that the regular Farmer-Rick Saturday #13
Understandable that different regions get different quality forecasts. ancianita Saturday #15
Fear not, trump, and his black marker will protect you. republianmushroom Saturday #16
Puting on my tinfoil hat, Bayard Saturday #18
What storm exactly is supposed to hit land? ananda Saturday #20
Imelda. Prof. Toru Tanaka Sunday #31
Is Imelda actually going to hit land or skirt it? ananda Sunday #32
Maybe another disaster is necessary to demonstrate how NOAA and FEMA have been laid to waste? Evolve Dammit Saturday #21
Flawed weather predictions + underfunded and understaffed FEMA ... QueerDuck Saturday #22
Gonna hit some folks hard. Joinfortmill Saturday #27
I Thank the ones who are working hard. riversedge Sunday #29

Champp

(2,185 posts)
1. Rich Republicans don't care
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:54 AM
Saturday

They have declared climate change to be fake -- just a lib conspiracy. So for them -- with all their money -- they are just going to ignore this. Let the ordinary people scream about how FEMA is failing them.

Elite Republicans have their Tax Cuts for the Wealthy, so this climate catastrophe just isn't news in their well-feathered sphere of life.

Catbird

(734 posts)
2. Future Imelda is on track for a direct hit on a red state
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:58 AM
Saturday

We're getting ready here in South Carolina. We'll see how well the system handles it.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
5. Watching from Georgia
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:07 AM
Saturday

South Carolina used to buffer for us until Helene changed that dynamic.

groundloop

(13,318 posts)
3. They've already gone downhill ......
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:59 AM
Saturday

Forecast accuracy is noticeably less accurate than previously, most likely due to cuts in data gathering. I expect tRump to privatize our formerly outstanding National Weather Service.

Ilsa

(63,349 posts)
24. Yeah, didn't Musk and Krasnov ground the
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 06:44 PM
Saturday

NOAA flights that gathered data from storm systems?

I hope a big one hits maralago head-on while he's on the golf course.

mdbl

(7,459 posts)
4. I'm surprised Jeff Bozos is allowing this article
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:03 AM
Saturday

since it hints at inefficiency at the Dump administration.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,578 posts)
7. What storm? What fantastical magic are you using?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:29 AM
Saturday

Has Oz deemed it to be true? What sayeth the high priests?
Quickly gather your daughters to be given to the great Oz so he may decide who the privileged few are to be prepared for sacrifice in which ever way he so chooses.
I've heard the Republican tribe are most eager to give dear leader whatever he may ask.

LiberalArkie

(18,990 posts)
9. Hurricanes can not be real... Prove it from the bible.. The bible says nothing about hurricanes.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:02 AM
Saturday

Has to be all that "WOKE" stuff. Isn't It?

All Trump has to do is tell the coasties to just ignore it like they did covid and it will all go away.

progree

(12,372 posts)
8. archive and excerpts (A&E's)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:31 AM
Saturday
https://archive.ph/OXhW1

some local forecasting offices lost the ability to operate 24/7, cut back on launching weather balloons or staggered shifts ahead of extreme weather. ...

The situation in one eastern U.S. office is typical, said an employee there, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing his job. His office is down nearly half a dozen meteorologists and has been for months, he said, meaning everyone has had to work a lot harder, for longer, to ensure forecasting remains uninterrupted. To reduce the burden on remaining employees, the office switched to requiring only one staffer on each overnight shift, instead of two.

Even so, everyone must take midnight shifts far more often than they used to, the employee said. Staff must also coordinate their vacations so they don’t overlap. And any sudden illness probably means someone has to work a surprise double shift, because “there’s no wiggle room anymore,” the employee said. “People are burning out,” the employee said. “Just in conversations, you can tell everyone is starting to get a little frayed.”

Many offices have ceased launching weather balloons, a vital tool for forecasting, to save time and personnel. And across the country, current and former Weather Service staff said, offices are forgoing their normal outreach and training initiatives for local residents to prioritize the forecast above all else. ((and why that matters, e.g. “education is not reaching emergency managers who will need to coordinate with the NWS to, for example, evacuate people,” -progree))

. . . Bound by a web of rules and laws, federal hiring is often slow, he said. And it’s an open question how many people will want to apply — government work may seem like a bad option, since Trump has stripped away the guaranteed job stability that once made up for the lower pay. Moreover, the Weather Service is in the midst of significant change, as the Trump administration aims to eliminate funding for anything tied to climate change.

On top of that, Masters said, Weather Service job applications are slated to include questions about what potential forecasters would do to further Trump’s policy goals. This change is part of Trump’s broader overhaul of government hiring, meant to transform the nonpartisan, merit-based workforce into one that rewards loyalty to the president.

FakeNoose

(38,791 posts)
10. Thanks for the archived link
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:02 AM
Saturday

I wish every poster did this ... but I guess the ones who have a subscription don't realize how annoying this is for the rest of us.

progree

(12,372 posts)
14. YW 😊
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:39 AM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:52 PM - Edit history (1)

One very very prolific poster of OP's in LBN told me that he used to include an archive link, but got so much static about it that he stopped doing it (generic he, I just can't get the hang of using "they" as a singular pronoun, unless it's the person's preferred pronoun, in which case I'm 100% on board with that).

Another annoying thing - people who post gift links, the Washington Post being an example, and while I appreciate the thought, what they often don't know is that people have to establish a free account with the WaPo in order to read the gift-linked article. And the first thing it asks in the registration process is, gimme your email. Do I really want Bezos and whoever else he sells it to spamming me?

mahatmakanejeeves

(66,857 posts)
17. WaPo paywall is challenging.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:59 PM
Saturday

I might be able to get two paragraphs if I’m lucky. This is on iPhone with Safari browser, both up to date.

Most public libraries subscribe. Folks can use their library cards to read it.

Thanks, and good afternoon.

progree

(12,372 posts)
19. I remember about 20 years ago accessing NY Times and such by using my library card
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:19 PM
Saturday

and going to the library's website and figuring it all out. Maybe I've got a library card around somewhere and maybe it's still valid.

Thanks for the reminder.

Searching archive.ph with the URL is easier, so I haven't been incentivized to go back to the library website era.

RussBLib

(10,219 posts)
23. I did not realize that
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 04:26 PM
Saturday

...that a recipient of a "Gifted Link" has to register to read it.

Perhaps I will stop sending out Gifted Links.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

progree

(12,372 posts)
25. Oh, I'd guess that a majority of DU people have gone ahead and registered with the WaPo, since I see a lot
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:28 PM
Saturday

of gift links to WaPo articles around here, and it's probably just a mental tic on my part to resist registering. A lot of people with Amazon accounts figure Bezos already have their phone number (and yes I have an Amazon account). I reason a WaPo registration may open up some additional marketing channels. But mostly it's a mental tic on my part.

As for New York TImes, I don't recall trying out a gift link, so I don't know what happens.

progree

(12,372 posts)
28. I can read the article just fine -- I get a panel covering the bottom 1/4 of the page , saying,
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 12:23 AM
Sunday

"You have access to this article thanks to someone you know. Keep exploring The Times with a free account."

and there is a "Log in or create an account", and a link "Maybe later".

That panel has a "Collapse v" link at the upper right, and yes, it gets rid of the panel.

Out of curiosity, I clicked on "Log in or create an account"
and it asked for an email, but it looks like I can also, alternatively "continue with Google" or "continue with Apple"

Thom Hartmann lives in Portland, it will be interesting to hear what he has to say about it.

Paladin

(31,684 posts)
11. I guess all those kids and camp personnel in Texas just drowned for nothing on July 4.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:29 AM
Saturday

Why am I not surprised that federal weather-monitoring still appears to be in clusterfuck status?

Farmer-Rick

(12,081 posts)
13. I have noticed that the regular
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:21 AM
Saturday

5 day forecast from NOAA.gov has gotten worse. They use to be very reliable about predicting rain. But not anymore. We get thunder storms when they predict none and we don't get storms when they predict them.

People around here have turned to the Farmer's almanac. Which is what we use to use about 25 years ago, along with other predictors.

ancianita

(42,027 posts)
15. Understandable that different regions get different quality forecasts.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:41 AM
Saturday

As for 25 years ago, seasonal climate in general was more predictable, and so the Farmer's Almanac still useful. If you think it still is today, given the climate change's seasonal intensity and their increasing cascading effects, then fine, whatever works, right?

As for hurricane regions, the forecasts remain dependably solid since NOAA was established.
NOAA is used by the National Weather Service, which privately sells NOAA data to communications networks. Rain prediction is hardest anywhere because of changing atmospheric dynamics. No forecast can be any better than chance beyond ten days. Worst to predict are local forecasts since locally scattered showers scatter where they will.

Access to good climate/weather information has political ramifications, too.
Adapting to the reality of planet's dynamics is what meteorologists do to help humans decide what to do to survive and thrive. Climate crises without meteorological help have already cause an uptick in human migrations.
Without access to good information, the poor and vulnerable will continue to suffer from both climate and the politics of climate denial.

Bayard

(27,181 posts)
18. Puting on my tinfoil hat,
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:15 PM
Saturday

What if its all part of a plan to clear the coasts of people so trump can build more resorts there? Its happening in Gaza.

Go ahead--tell me I'm delusional and paranoid.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,803 posts)
31. Imelda.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:42 AM
Sunday

Humberto is forecast to turn to the northeast away from the U.S. A good thing as it is a large category 4 hurricane with an ominous, well-defined eye.

Evolve Dammit

(21,254 posts)
21. Maybe another disaster is necessary to demonstrate how NOAA and FEMA have been laid to waste?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:14 PM
Saturday

Even then, it will be Biden's fault.

QueerDuck

(136 posts)
22. Flawed weather predictions + underfunded and understaffed FEMA ...
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 04:12 PM
Saturday

This will be interesting to see what happens next.

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